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chris63 Feb 16, 2024 8:30 am


Originally Posted by day13 (Post 36004062)
Called and spoke to three agents. Forget it! Answers as: I can't do anything. That is not possible. You are on the wait list in position one it will be cleared once there is availability.

And of course i told him it hat 8 seats free on a Friday flight, but no chance. I think the 4 vouchers will be burned.

Any LHG status ?

day13 Feb 16, 2024 8:51 am

Just Frequent Flyer. I have Senator but I’m not flying just my wife. I think as it is award the status doesn’t matter.

day13 Feb 16, 2024 8:52 am

Just Frequent Flyer. I have Senator but I’m not flying just my wife. I think as it is award the status doesn’t matter.

Haax007 Feb 27, 2025 7:54 am

Apologies if I should have figured this out from the thread above, but hopefully someone wouldn't mind answering the following: What determines if there will be availability to use vouchers to upgrade from Business to First? I just called up to book LON-MUC-BOS/EWR-LON in business and use my vouchers to upgrade the MUC-BOS leg to First but was told there was no availability. I could be waitlisted though. I don't t want to fly Lufthansa in business, so I will only book if I can use the vouchers. Reading this thread it seems you cannot really rely on this at time of booking, which makes the vouchers pretty useless to me. Any bright ideas? Or should I just mentally write off the vouchers? Thanks!

Haax007 Feb 27, 2025 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Haax007 (Post 36924307)
Apologies if I should have figured this out from the thread above, but hopefully someone wouldn't mind answering the following: What determines if there will be availability to use vouchers to upgrade from Business to First? I just called up to book LON-MUC-BOS/EWR-LON in business and use my vouchers to upgrade the MUC-BOS leg to First but was told there was no availability. I could be waitlisted though. I don't t want to fly Lufthansa in business, so I will only book if I can use the vouchers. Reading this thread it seems you cannot really rely on this at time of booking, which makes the vouchers pretty useless to me. Any bright ideas? Or should I just mentally write off the vouchers? Thanks!

Just realised I posted this in the Swiss section, not sure if it makes a difference in this respect (Swiss or LH)? Thanks!

Fennario Feb 27, 2025 10:17 am


Originally Posted by Haax007 (Post 36924307)
Apologies if I should have figured this out from the thread above, but hopefully someone wouldn't mind answering the following: What determines if there will be availability to use vouchers to upgrade from Business to First? I just called up to book LON-MUC-BOS/EWR-LON in business and use my vouchers to upgrade the MUC-BOS leg to First but was told there was no availability. I could be waitlisted though. I don't t want to fly Lufthansa in business, so I will only book if I can use the vouchers. Reading this thread it seems you cannot really rely on this at time of booking, which makes the vouchers pretty useless to me. Any bright ideas? Or should I just mentally write off the vouchers? Thanks!

There is no way to determine availability in advance. You might try and get lucky with vouchers clearing right away, but mostly you get waitlisted. If it's a premium route, you can pretty much be assured that the vouchers will not clear. In my experience, they are indeed useless because the routes I fly are impossible to upgrade with vouchers. I gave my last two vouchers to a family member who burned them on a couple of 1-hour flights within the EU. It turned me off so much that I started flying AF for a while.

LadyBell Feb 27, 2025 10:37 am

Hi! Im wondering if its the same with upgrading from Economy to Business ? Are they useless. I am flying Swiss air Zurich to ZIN and return with my family and I only had 2 vouchers, they were all ok with me using them to upgrade myself. hThe flight out required two and the return flight required three. I was waitliseted for the flight out. Are there zero chances it will clear? Flighs are oct/nov.
I could use them for premium economy instead Id rather safe bet than wait and not get anything. As of right now Im not even ticketed I guess and As we are going on holiday nightmare scenario would be me being stranded in Zurich and family has to fly without me.
If that happens what would be the case? Family has no status I am a senator trying to upgrade from economy to Business using evoucher. They had to split us up to two separate booking codes and it shows as waitlisted in mmb

cfischer Feb 27, 2025 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by LadyBell (Post 36924650)
Hi! Im wondering if its the same with upgrading from Economy to Business ? Are they useless. I am flying Swiss air Zurich to ZIN and return with my family and I only had 2 vouchers, they were all ok with me using them to upgrade myself. hThe flight out required two and the return flight required three. I was waitliseted for the flight out. Are there zero chances it will clear? Flighs are oct/nov.
I could use them for premium economy instead Id rather safe bet than wait and not get anything. As of right now Im not even ticketed I guess and As we are going on holiday nightmare scenario would be me being stranded in Zurich and family has to fly without me.
If that happens what would be the case? Family has no status I am a senator trying to upgrade from economy to Business using evoucher. They had to split us up to two separate booking codes and it shows as waitlisted in mmb

Swiss does not fly ZRH-ZIN ... what is the route?

Haax007 Feb 27, 2025 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by Fennario (Post 36924602)
There is no way to determine availability in advance. You might try and get lucky with vouchers clearing right away, but mostly you get waitlisted. If it's a premium route, you can pretty much be assured that the vouchers will not clear. In my experience, they are indeed useless because the routes I fly are impossible to upgrade with vouchers. I gave my last two vouchers to a family member who burned them on a couple of 1-hour flights within the EU. It turned me off so much that I started flying AF for a while.

Thanks for taking the time to reply! Sounds like I should book, try the vouchers, and if they don’t clear right away, cancel the booking…

chris63 Feb 27, 2025 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by Haax007 (Post 36925048)
Thanks for taking the time to reply! Sounds like I should book, try the vouchers, and if they don’t clear right away, cancel the booking…

You can try that BOS might work if it is F8 but EWR unlikely, the problem is Evouchers have a minimal internal value, so they currently only work if the Bot thinks the seats would go out unoccupied….

chris63 Feb 27, 2025 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by LadyBell (Post 36924650)
Hi! Im wondering if its the same with upgrading from Economy to Business ? Are they useless. I am flying Swiss air Zurich to ZIN and return with my family and I only had 2 vouchers, they were all ok with me using them to upgrade myself. hThe flight out required two and the return flight required three. I was waitliseted for the flight out. Are there zero chances it will clear? Flighs are oct/nov.
I could use them for premium economy instead Id rather safe bet than wait and not get anything. As of right now Im not even ticketed I guess and As we are going on holiday nightmare scenario would be me being stranded in Zurich and family has to fly without me.
If that happens what would be the case? Family has no status I am a senator trying to upgrade from economy to Business using evoucher. They had to split us up to two separate booking codes and it shows as waitlisted in mmb

Simply depends on the loads, they sell seats for cash first, then bids, then mileage upgrades & finally evouchers, they can clear at any time including during boarding or not at all.

f4freeJunior Feb 28, 2025 12:17 pm

Flew today with another HON BKK-ZRH and both our e-vouchers cleared about 1h before boarding. What a relief for such a long flight (12h).
I had my request waitlised 6 weeks ago.

vantage03 Mar 1, 2025 5:13 am

Clearing HON eVouchers after check-in has closed is truly penny-pinching and the tightest of tight behaviour…

MichielR Mar 1, 2025 7:26 am


Originally Posted by vantage03 (Post 36928519)
Clearing HON eVouchers after check-in has closed is truly penny-pinching and the tightest of tight behaviour…

But at least the HON already received the F ground services. For non-HON it would mean no F lounge/FCT and no car (if applicable) and this, I would argue, are part of the F experience and should be part of the voucher upgrade.

LadyBell Mar 1, 2025 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 36924936)
Swiss does not fly ZRH-ZIN ... what is the route?

sorry, my error, Zurich Singapore late october flying out. Return november


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