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missydarlin Jun 27, 2003 4:23 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doc:
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Missy, you're joking right! PLEASE! Thanks very much for your assistance! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
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Actually no I wasnt.


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No, just in case I was ever unclear, I do not see my posts as even remotely "disruptive," by any means

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Sadly, I'll have to disagree. I believe that when any members actions are enough to cause multiple threads to be started as to whether the behavior is acceptable is at the very least disruptive.



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The tone is also quite clear as well, i.e. to be as respectful as humanly possible - and to not violate the rules that we have all agreed to abide by! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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In your own words.. these rules seem to be


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From the TOS, we are all urged to:

"...Be Tolerant -- Respect the beliefs and opinions of others.

..."avoid the use of bitterness or ridicule..."

"...Keep it friendly -- Any posts that come across as a put-down may be deleted..."

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Yet I can't help but interpret some of the other comments you've made just in this thread..which I'm sure arent far off from some of the other comments floating out there..as unfriendly and ridiculing.


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You are just perfect, incredibly so, and I'm glad to hear it!

Wow! Super post! Caught me with the goods again, you did! There is clearly no foolin' you!

You figured me out so very easily! Surely you must be a genius? Or is it so very obvious to all?

Frankly, IMHO, this post reveals quite a bit about you, sadly!

but I am increasingly finding your post(s), while admittedly somewhat amusing, to also be a bit embarrassing to FT! And rather shameful as well, to be frank!

Just as with backsides, seems everybody has one!

Perhaps you should simply be asking yourself, no? After all, you seem to have all the answers, right?

You are just perfect, incredibly so, and I'm glad to hear it!

Yet, you'll please hopefully excuse me, if I admit to being somewhat grateful that I'm perhaps a bit different than you are!

You are just perfect, incredibly so, and I'm glad to hear it!

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I think this would cover question you asked about multiple TOS violations.


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And if you actually think that I "retaliated," then truly you do not know me at all - which, of course, you do not! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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If you will be so kind as to reread the entire sentence..it said do not respond or retaliate. Fueling the fire is just as much a TOS violation as starting it.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">And yes, again to be clear, I was respectful, IMHO, and most certainly so, on a relative or comparative basis!
You don't think so?

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There is no provision for relative or comparative in the TOS. If you feel the TOS has been violated against you, then its your responsibility to bring it to the attention of Randy and Co. rather than respond or retaliate.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">You think Lex did not violate the TOS?

Hey, I certainly respect your opinion, even IF it is is extremely misguided, IMHO.

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If Lex's original post is a violation of the TOS then so is Tazi's. And for that matter so is your calling my opinion misguided. You have no knowledge of what guides my opinion.


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Why not try putting yourself in my position!

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You obviously have a loyal following who could be easily served without disrupting those who have strong feelings in the other direction. If I were in your position, I'd either A) start an email list of those who are interested in your clipping service B) start my own website or C) Ask Randy for my own forum


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And also, remember please just exactly why we are having this discussion - I was flamed yet AGAIN, sadly! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

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And AGAIN, I'd like to refer you and those who'd like to support your position to the section of the TOS that urges you to "contact a TalkAssist Volunteer" if you feel that you've been the recipient of a personal attack.



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tazi Jun 27, 2003 6:44 am



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tazi Jun 27, 2003 6:51 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by missydarlin:
If lex's use of the word ignoramus is a violation of the TOS, then Tazi is in violation as well for the same word. And for that matter so is your calling my opinion misguided. You have no knowledge of what guides my opinion.

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Excuse me? Where did I use ignoramus in any of my replies here?



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missydarlin Jun 27, 2003 7:06 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tazi:

Excuse me? Where did I use ignoramus in any of my replies here?

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Pardon my misquote. The term you used was "anyone with three brain cells to rub together"

doc Jun 27, 2003 7:30 am

Needless to say, Missy, I disagree - and vehemently so. Forgive me please if I may go so far as to question your objectivity here, or rather lack thereof! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by missydarlin:

Pardon my misquote. The term you used was "anyone with three brain cells to rub together"</font>
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Actually I believe the record will show that
you are incorrect here. She's merely quoted "Lex."

As you may recall:

"In the News" should be renamed the "Doc News Network".

Anybody with three brain cells to rub together checks the news sites interesting to them. Doc either posts uninteresting sites or ones they have already checked. This is a form of trolling. But he gets away with it through huge post counts. Driving interesting posters away seems less important than attracting the ignoramuses who cannot find their own news sources, but THIS DOES drive up hits. Duh.
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What more can I say, really? Nothing, sadly! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Have a great day all! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

tazi Jun 27, 2003 7:40 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by missydarlin:
Pardon my misquote. The term you used was "anyone with three brain cells to rub together"</font>
And that violates the TOS how? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif



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missydarlin Jun 27, 2003 7:50 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tazi:
And that violates the TOS how? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif
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Perhaps this says it best


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Originally posted by doc:
In summary, I personally think the post is manifestly disrespecftful, even insulting, as well as kinda' harassing</font>
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CameraGuy Jun 27, 2003 7:59 am

missydarlin

Do you feel as if you are striking your head against a wall yet?

tazi

Remember, skipping someone's posts and threads is not always as easy as it sounds.

Thisnk about the Pro-TSA member that you could just not ignore?

gleff Jun 27, 2003 8:27 am

Thing about the web is that it remembers what we write really well.

I have a feeling that some members will regret some of the things they've written here.

Suggestion for some folks, which y'all will take or leave: bang out your message but then wait a few minutes and cool off and consider whether your post is something you'll be proud of later, and whether it is helpful or harmful to the community.

tazi Jun 27, 2003 9:07 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by missydarlin:
Perhaps this says it best


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Originally posted by doc:
In summary, I personally think the post is manifestly disrespecftful, even insulting, as well as kinda' harassing
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I still have no idea what you are talking about. All I did was use Lex's own words to show a different view. I'm not sure what doc's comments have to do with my post violating the TOS http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif



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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
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tazi Jun 27, 2003 9:11 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
tazi
Remember, skipping someone's posts and threads is not always as easy as it sounds.

Thisnk about the Pro-TSA member that you could just not ignore?
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Very different situation I think. Skipping over threads you have no interest in isn't the same as ignoring comments by someone in a thread you are both already involved in.

At any rate, I am done here.


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korea71 Jun 27, 2003 10:06 am

"It's better to have loved and lost then to never have loved at all"?

If a person posts 100 times and has just 1 post that is a jem, should that person continue to post or stop? How about 1 in 1000, 10,000 or 50,000?

Personally, I would tolerate the 49,999 for the one good one but that's just me.

missydarlin Jun 27, 2003 11:49 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tazi:
I still have no idea what you are talking about. All I did was use Lex's own words to show a different view. I'm not sure what doc's comments have to do with my post violating the TOS http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif
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My point is, that you felt Lex's own words were a violation of the TOS, yet it was OK for you to use them yourself. Precisely why Doc's comments about his post be should be just as applicable to yours.


tazi Jun 27, 2003 1:59 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by missydarlin:
My point is, that you felt Lex's own words were a violation of the TOS, yet it was OK for you to use them yourself. Precisely why Doc's comments about his post be should be just as applicable to yours.

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No missy, I didn't think they were in violation. I said they were close.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">If it doesn't violate it, it certainly comes close ... </font>



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LexPassenger Jun 27, 2003 3:55 pm

I'm very serious with the suggestion that a "doc" only news forum should be created.

I don't have anything personal against doc, I just don't care to see the same news from Yahoo repeated on Delta and Northwest and Continental... those of us who care have already looked at it on Yahoo...

But if we give doc his own forum, he can post to his heart's content, and those of you who find his posts valuable can find them all at one place!

Win-win, I would say.


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