GONE : Westin Aruba (Leaving Starwood February 27, 2014) [Master Thread]
I'm planning a trip to the Westin right after it converts on December 20th. I'll be there for 10 days.
- Anyone ever stay at the property in the past? Any input? - Will it be a Westin in "name only" or will it truly be converted to a Westin? - Pictures of it look dated, is there any overhaul occurring? I welcome any and all input. |
There are several threads on this property...this one having a good amount of rather recent info
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560508 |
Westin Aruba
I have an upcoming stay right before Christmas. I was told by Starwood the hotel is new and I was lucky to get reservations. Any news or updates of this hotel? Is this a brand new property or rebranded? We normally stay at Hyatt so looking forward to a new property.
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Originally Posted by idealflyer
I have an upcoming stay right before Christmas. I was told by Starwood the hotel is new and I was lucky to get reservations. Any news or updates of this hotel? Is this a brand new property or rebranded? We normally stay at Hyatt so looking forward to a new property.
Well, it's new to Westin, but by no means a new hotel. It's been operating under *wood's auspices now for some time, after a conversion away from the former Wyndham flag. If you'd like to read something about the former property, a simple search for the Aruba Wyndham on google (or elsewhere) will deliver scads of detail. After *wood purchased it and it dropped the Wyndham banner, it has operated as the Aruba Resort and Spa. |
I will not go to Aruba. :(
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Originally Posted by grayland
I will not go to Aruba. :(
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So that is why it looks so familiar, it was the former Wyndham. I guess not much will change, just a more comfortable bed and now a charge for Internet access!
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Now the Westin.. Dec 20th
Now that's it's becoming a Westin, anyone been to the property in the last few months have a report? rennovations? much improved or slightly improved? Thanks
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Originally Posted by mjharad
Now that's it's becoming a Westin, anyone been to the property in the last few months have a report? rennovations? much improved or slightly improved? Thanks
Perhaps yours will be the first. Can't wait to hear about it! |
I will be there this weekend so will be able to report any changes evident then. Just hope they would have installed the Heavenly beds by then.
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I'll be very interested in what changes they have made since I was there in August.
On the Westin promo highlighted this week, they want a whopping $539 per night....and that is a sale. I almost choked when I saw that.:eek: I love Aruba.. have been there several times...yes it is pricey. The hotel I stayed at in August would have had to have changed dramatically to be worth that much money...yes even in the high season. I checked though...and the marriott on Palm Beach goes for around that....that is a big shock to me that Aruba would be worth that much. Obviously it is to many |
LOL, saw the $539 rate per night as well. If you order from Low-to-High however, the rate drops to $179. I guess the hotel is hoping you will book at higher rate. Glad I got my deal in early as part of a package deal. However if I knew nearby Radisson was so nice, I would have booked there for same price. Now that it does not matter since I won't get SPG points until Dec. 20 stays.
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Originally Posted by idealflyer
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LOL, saw the $539 rate per night as well. If you order from Low-to-High however, the rate drops to $179. I guess the hotel is hoping you will book at higher rate. Glad I got my deal in early as part of a package deal. However if I knew nearby Radisson was so nice, I would have booked there for same price. Now that it does not matter since I won't get SPG points until Dec. 20 stays.
The radisson in Aruba is very, very nice--I haven't stayed there but have eaten there and been on their grounds. The whole ambiance of the place puts the westin to shame. Their casino is nicer too. |
SPG50 is also a good option for this hotel for high season. I got quoted $235 for peak dates in Feb when the cheapest rate on the site was $399.
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I just got back from several hotel stays in Aruba. The Westin is certainly a work in progress. I got last night comped because of a fire alarm drill at 6am this morning. Boxes in stairs, furniture out on balconies, couldn't get downstairs during drill- this would have been a huge fire code violation in US, but Caribbean may be more relaxed. Right now, this place is a mess! Room was half done, had heavenly bed and shower along with nice plasma tv but rest of room was not done. Old lightswitches, sliding glass door let wind in. Art work not up yet. This property could have potential but they would have change many more things, including the jacuzzis in the pool area.
To be fair, the Hyatt and Marriott are overrated, although I checked out Marriott for timeshare. Radisson however looked nice and found their bars to be better. PM me and I can send you pictures. High season is getting into full swing before year end. |
I just got back from Aruba and will follow up with the GM of the new westin. this place is nowhere near ready to fly the Westin flag. Its basically a run down Sheraton with a staff from a bad 4 Points.
I was supposed to be at the hotel for 3 nights--I typically stay at the Hyatt and was looking forward to having a *wood on the island, but... My reservation was for Dec 22-25, but I had an overlapping reservation at the Hyatt on Dec 22 in case the Westin didn't look ready. I walked over to the Westin on 12/21 and the place was a mess--construction boxes everywhere, lobby had a funky smell, etc. Since it didn't look very good, I stayed at the Hyatt on 12/22 and changed my reservation to check-in on 12/23 I traded some emails with a reservations person named Sonia about getting an upgrade and she said they wouldn't do it in advance (no prob with that--just following policy) so I came by the morning of 12/23 to check in. Took about 20 minutes of me explaining platinum benefits to get the front desk to check me in and then pry an upgrade out of their hands. They finally gave me a jr suite (even though I explained to them that the website showed availability for full suites). Since it was fairly early in the morning my room wasn't ready, so I didn't have a chance to take a look. The front desk said it was on the 8th floor, "where construction had just finished, so I'd be the first person in the room" (sounded pretty good). I went back to the Hyatt for the morning and came back at 2:00 to get the room keys. At 2:00, when I came back, the room keys were ready (good) and the porter took our stuff up to the room (very nice guy). Sonia also made a point of greeting me after I emailed her again that we were coming back to the hotel. The 8th floor was a disaster. The floor was absolutely covered with construction materials--the carpet was stained with some brown stuff, there was a cup of some kind of alcohol from the night before in the plant near the elevator, there were garbage cans outside of most of the rooms, etc. The room renovation wasn't done either--new carpet and a new flat screen TV, but old bathroom tiles and floor, no Westin shower curtain, old curtains in the room, but the heavenly bed, etc. When we went to go to dinner, the porters didn't bother coming out to help people in and out of cabs. This was a problem b/c the wind is brutal near the front door and for some reason, a bus decided to pull up at the front door of the hotel even though they have a bus port at the lower lobby level...It took about 10 minutes to clear the bus. On the morning of the 24th, I spoke to the front desk staff about the mess on the 8th floor and the construction noise that started at 8am. They said that the were aware of the left over construction materials, but that was the construction company's problem and that even though all of the guests on the floor had complained, there was nothing they could do about it. I asked them if I should pay the construction company for my room...no response. I asked what they were doing to make up for the construction and they said nothing. I gave up and checked out a day early. This place needs a lot of internal work and a tremendous amount of training for the staff. The clientele is still left over from the Wyndham (airline crews all over the place) and they kept the original staff but just slapped Westin badges on their shirts. I'll walk over again next year and see if anything has changed, but I don't know if Westin is pushing hard enough to make changes at the hotel to make it worth staying here. |
upcoming stay 1/1-1/8
John - thanks for the update.
I'm scheduled to spend a week there 1/1-1/8, and now I'm a little concerned. I'm only have spg gold - and so i don't have nearly as much pull with spg cust. service. I had read that the hotel was undergoing renovations for the Westin acquisition. So I called gold support before I booked (a couple weeks ago) and they told me that there was NO construction or disturbances to the hotel. :confused: Any advice, especially if I arrive and the hotel is still in disrepair? |
are you doing the stay on points or paid? If its paid, I'd consider moving to the Hyatt. While they are also doing renovations, its a much better hotel to start with (Hyatt vs the Wyndham).
Also, the Hyatt has a nicer pool area and a more established staff. I was planning on splitting my stay 6 nights at the Hyatt and 3 at the Westin, but wound up with 7 at the Hyatt, 1 at the Westin and went home a day early. I'm really disappointed in the Westin b/c I was looking to find a *wood on Aruba that I could stay at--I'm sick of trying to accumulate Hyatt points just to burn for one week in Aruba (I go down the week before Christmas every year). A Westin with no award blackouts would have been great, but given the condition of the hotel, mgmt and staff, this one ain't worth it yet. If you have to stay at the Westin, I'd ask to see the room first before you check-in. Make sure the floor is really renovated (not just partially complete). I would also contact Sonia Bryson in advance--she seems to be on the ball at the hotel. Its the rest of the staff that is still learning that being a Westin requires a different level of customer service... |
New Westin Aruba - Report
Just came back from Aruba. The new Westin Aruba is much nicer than many have reported. Beautiful pool area. A bit dated lobby, but still very nice. Rooms upgraded from the previous Wyndham property. All in all very nice, but not amazing. it's at the end of a strip of hotels in the "high-rise" area. Nice loacation. Nice beach.
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Just a follow-up.
I had an extended conversation with the GM of the hotel last week. He didn't attempt to create excuses for the experience I had and said the staff had been extremely stretched in the weeks leading up to the holidays. He returned my points for the stay as well. He said there had been some sort of strike at the port in Aruba and the materials for the renovations had been delayed in arriving. He's hoping to have the hotel in "westin" shape by mid-January at the latest. I'm very interested in hearing from anyone who goes down after then-- Also, they are breaking ground on the timeshare property in January also--that should create some interesting promos to travel to Aruba and check out the hotel and the timeshares |
John - I am here on a paid stay, and I could have cancelled but I would have incurred a significant service charge. I decided to come and see how it is. I figured that if it was unacceptable it would be much easier to leave/get a refund.
I checked in today, and while service wasn't Westin quality - it wasn't awful either. I am in my newly renovated room, and it is okay. I was upgraded to an oceanview room, which seems a bit small. Some of the final details definately have not been attended to. For example, there are no paintings on the wall - only the hangers. My desk ports are not plugged in. And my phones are from another room. There are a few other missing details (phone instructions sheet). But I suppose they are trying to make up for that by giving me an extra safe in the closet. :) My first impression of the staff was okay, but as I interact with them more, I am less and less pleased. I'll be sure to keep you posted. |
one of the interesting things from the conversation I had with the GM is that he's a 10 year vet at the hotel, so he's come over from the Wyndham side. Honestly, it disappointed me a bit b/c I think the staff is a major issue and keeping the GM means that the hotel won't make major strides with the staff.
at the same time, I think Rob Smith (the GM) recognizes that he needs to up the product by a huge amount to justify the Westin name, price and reputation. If you are still at the hotel, I would reach out to him. He called me from his cell on a Friday night, so he's obviously interested in making things right His email is [email protected] |
John-
I couldn't agree more. It is without question the staff that sets Westin properties apart from the rest. I'm curious to see how tomorrow goes. A new day, and no longer a holiday. Also the staff have made me a few promises for which I'm eagerly awaiting their execution . I'll be sure to contact Rob if necessary. Thanks again John. |
Just got back last nite from 9 days at the Westin Aruba. I'm not a happy camper. There is no way that place should have a Westin name on it.
The place is drastically understaffed. There was almost no service on the beach as might be expected. The rooms have great heavenly beds but the sheets were so rough that the joke was that this was the in-room exfoliating spa treatment! The furniture is old Wyndham stuff except for the new TV. They put up pictures on the 4th or 5th day of our stay. Spoke to many people that had construction on their floors daily. I was lucky that we didn't hear that. The bathrooms have little counter space for toiletries. The food was aweful . So bad that we walked down to the Dunkin Donuts for coffee every morning and to the Hyatt for breakfast and lunch the last half of the vacation. The "Westin" needs to drastically improve food quality and offerings. A coffee shop that offers eggs and toast past 11 am for those that partied too late would be very well received. Wireless was good but expensive ($12.00/day). I had a few conversations with locals and the consensus was that there isn't enough popluation on the island to staff these large resorts. And foreign workers are only allowed to stay 2 years, so that kills consistency. Would I stay there again someday? Probably not, considering the quality of other offerings at the same price nearby. Hyatt, Radisson, Marriott were standouts. If the weather and beach hadn't been so nice, I'd be even more frustrated than I am right now. Lots of money paid for few services. |
Thanks for the recent review. For our 10th Anniversary in February I was debating whether to go to to Cancun and stay at the Le Meridien or to go Aruba and stay at the Westin. I am using points so I have to stay at a Starwood property. I decided a few days ago to go to Cancun and you just confirmed that I made the right decision!!!!
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I am planning a vacation at the Westin Aruba in November 07 for 3 families and am a little nervous to commit to the Westin. Any updates on stays in January and February will be appreciated prior to committing to the Westin Aruba. Is it worth staying on points or simply paying to stay at the Hyatt or Radisson where I know I will not have any issues nor status.
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Westin Aruba - MASTER THREAD
Hi:
Wondering if any recent visitors to the Westin Aruba Resort would acknowledge that $489 for an ocean view room with balcony is a good value. Have searched and not seen very good comments, but perhaps those who had great experiences there don't post. Don't mind paying $489 per night if it is a wonderful hotel and is the "place to be!" Thanks! |
Find out the redemption level. If they are doing 10k, buy starpoints. You save $69 a night.
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Originally Posted by jswede1507
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Find out the redemption level. If they are doing 10k, buy starpoints. You save $69 a night.
I was in Aruba a month ago...stayed at the Marriott but walked through the Westin. I, however, did stay there last summer...post Starwood takeover but pre-Westin. All I can say is that if I were spending $469 a night for a hotel in Aruba, I'd be at the Hyatt. The Westin is fine but not for those kind of bucks imho. |
Originally Posted by Renard
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The redemption level is now cat 5.
I was in Aruba a month ago...stayed at the Marriott but walked through the Westin. I, however, did stay there last summer...post Starwood takeover but pre-Westin. All I can say is that if I were spending $469 a night for a hotel in Aruba, I'd be at the Hyatt. The Westin is fine but not for those kind of bucks imho. |
Stayed there 2 months ago and it still was not completely finished. The GM is part of the problem. It is an older property and there is only so much one can do. Does not measure up to the newer Westin Resorts.
However, a Priceline accepted bid at $219 was OK. Otherwise try the Hyatt, then Marriott. |
Thanks for the opinions, and welcome to Flyertalk, B.VA.Flyer!
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Originally Posted by jcherney
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Unless something drastic has changed since December, the quality is no higher than a Cat 3, maybe.
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I haven't stayed at the hotel since it became a Westin, but I did stay there once when it was a Wyndham. I was very disappointed with the hotel at that time. There were a few things working against it. If the staff hasn't changed, I can't imagine the quality of the hotel is improved since then. The staff was the thing I liked least about the Wyndham. The second thing is location. This is something that probably can't be fixed. That end of the beach has more wind than the part further down. In addition, the pool and other facilities were too small for the size of the hotel.
I've been to Aruba about ten times and even got married there. The Hyatt and Marriott Stellaris are by far the best high rises. The Raddison is not too far behind. The facilities, staff, and locations of the three are (to varying degrees) superior to all other options. Without major improvements, I would not stay at the Westin (or anywhere else) even for Starpoints. |
anyone know anything about the casino?
any word on their restaurants? |
Originally Posted by teacher5
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anyone know anything about the casino?
any word on their restaurants? |
thank you
is most of the stuff within walking distance? we used to stay in what was then the sonesta downtown...also ate a lot in gaucho...i guess we will use the 100 and then eat elsewhere] |
Originally Posted by teacher5
(Post 8001672)
thank you
is most of the stuff within walking distance? we used to stay in what was then the sonesta downtown...also ate a lot in gaucho...i guess we will use the 100 and then eat elsewhere] |
I'm surprised by the negative comments because we spent five nights at Westin Aruba in early March and absolutely loved it. The room was lovely, the grounds were beautiful, the staff was very accommodating, there were no lines at the breakfast buffet and the poolside lunch was fine. This was our first trip to Aruba so I can't comment on how the Westin
compares to neighboring hotels, but we felt it was well worth the 40,000 points we used, and would still be a good deal even now as a Cat 5 (although March is still the height of the season, it's only 12,000 a night then). |
Originally Posted by teacher5
(Post 8001672)
thank you
is most of the stuff within walking distance? we used to stay in what was then the sonesta downtown...also ate a lot in gaucho...i guess we will use the 100 and then eat elsewhere] |
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