When will the new *wood props in Macau, PRC, open?
#1
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When will the new *wood props in Macau, PRC, open?
The Westin was the only prop in Macau the last time I was there, which was in 2007. Believe several new properties were being developed in the cotai area, including the largest Sheraton Hotel in the world (6000 rooms), a St. Regis and a W hotel.
I was told Sheraton and St. Regis would be ready in 2008 or 2009, and W sometime in 2010. Due to the crisis, it has been delayed. Anybody know the latest opening dates for the 3 new props? Lurkers perhaps?
I was told Sheraton and St. Regis would be ready in 2008 or 2009, and W sometime in 2010. Due to the crisis, it has been delayed. Anybody know the latest opening dates for the 3 new props? Lurkers perhaps?
#2
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I was wondering about that a few weeks ago, but when I looked under the new properties section of the Starwood website, they weren't even listed. I'm curious if they were canceled or if it's just a delay.
#3
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Estimated year of opening
Sheraton-2011
W-2012
St Regis-2012
However, I do not information as to reports on the delays.
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Sheraton-2011
W-2012
St Regis-2012
However, I do not information as to reports on the delays.
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Thyetus Lee | Online Forum Coordinator(AP)
Starwood Customer Contact Centre (AP) Pte Ltd
#4
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Cannot wait !!
Hope it is true this time ~
ha
Hope it is true this time ~
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Estimated year of opening
Sheraton-2011
W-2012
St Regis-2012
However, I do not information as to reports on the delays.
[email protected]
Thyetus Lee | Online Forum Coordinator(AP)
Starwood Customer Contact Centre (AP) Pte Ltd
Sheraton-2011
W-2012
St Regis-2012
However, I do not information as to reports on the delays.
[email protected]
Thyetus Lee | Online Forum Coordinator(AP)
Starwood Customer Contact Centre (AP) Pte Ltd
#5
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When I was in Macau in December it seemed construction on darn near every project had been halted. Hopefully things have turned around since.
#6
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Anybody has the latest news on this? Would love to go to Macau again, but only if the new hotels have opened up. Last I heard the Sands financial situation has improved, and they will resume the construction of Sheraton and St. Regis. Can anybody confirm if it has actually resumed?
#7
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Anybody has the latest news on this? Would love to go to Macau again, but only if the new hotels have opened up. Last I heard the Sands financial situation has improved, and they will resume the construction of Sheraton and St. Regis. Can anybody confirm if it has actually resumed?
#8
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I am wondering how comes there are so many high-end hotels in construction. Will there be a increasing number of people visiting Macau in the future?
#9
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Go look at Google Street View. They are holes in the ground, with no one working on them. It'll be a lonnnng while.
#10
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I caught a glimpse of the site while on the Cotai Jet shuttle bus last weekend. Still just a plot of dirt with no activity in sight.
Sigh.
Appears to be a great location though, right next to the Venetian and City of Dreams.
Sigh.
Appears to be a great location though, right next to the Venetian and City of Dreams.
#11
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On the way
Not sure of opening dates, but the Sheraton building opposite the Venetian is very advanced, just nothing inside I think. It is only the W that has not yet started above ground. I don't know what changes have happened at the Sheraton since it halted last year, but the Google maps view is way out of date!
#12
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The two major industry in Macau is Gambling and the Sex industry. Yep. Chinese love to gamble. There is also a gang related shadow industry in Macau that also keeps the economy afloat unofficially.
Chinese banks have been pumping money into the China's economy as a whole just to keep the GDP increase in a stabling 10%+ each year no matter what happens to economies outside of China.
Macau is no Vegas. It has Vegas style hotels like Venitian, but there is no Vegas-Style pricings. The fancy hotels in Macau like the Venitian charges $US 220/night on the cheapest on-sale lowest possible rate. That is way beyond the "weekend getaway" rate for average Hong Kong people. Forget about the middle or even middle-upper class household in China.
Those $US 220/night prices are more like "once every 2 years Vacation" rates. If an average household in Hong Kong save up for such a vacation, it would be more normal to go to the real Vegas and pay $199 for the real Venetian (or just the similarly good but lot cheaper Treasure Island types). They will still be ahead.
Just to give you an idea... The Asian Development Bank in 2005 give Hong Kong a median household income of $US 31000 /year (husband & wife working and living at family home). That's when times were good - before US's Great Recession or the Europe National debt problem. China - even in the relative richer areas close to Hong Kong's borders - earn nowhere near what Hong Kong people earn...
The land/property values in the country is just out of control and we just saw how these out of control property bubbles look like after they pop. Look at those poorer (but still relatively rich) Americans.
#13
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It was only a few years ago that they opened up the gaming licenses - so a huge gold rush to build casinos. And AFAIK, gambling revenue in Macau now far outstrips Vegas (though entertainment $ is much less I believe).
#14
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Not sure of opening dates, but the Sheraton building opposite the Venetian is very advanced, just nothing inside I think. It is only the W that has not yet started above ground. I don't know what changes have happened at the Sheraton since it halted last year, but the Google maps view is way out of date!
#15
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Knowing how proactive I am with regards to pre-opening properties, I would not give any promises that there would be a new one within the next 12 months in Macau itself.
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