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MilesDependent Mar 13, 2009 10:05 pm

ANA Tool - Broken
 
Presume this is the place to post...

If you are using the ANA tool to check award seats, be aware it's not working properly and is showing award seats where there are none available.

At first, I checked SYD-SIN SQ, and it showed Y/J/F-R available (request) on all flights. I briefly thought SQ may have lifted their embargo on J/F 380/77W flights...

However, checking SYD-BKK on TG also shows F/J/Y available, and there is in fact no F on this route.

Heck, even SIN-LHR a few weeks from now is showing seats in all classes.

So... be warned it's broken for the minute. And it's not just StarNet at play.

Anyone know how long it's been doing this for??

Benny8444 Mar 13, 2009 10:07 pm

This may be better for the *A Forum or the NH Forum.


It is probably just a bug. It is nothing compared to what UA.com gets.

lucky9876coins Mar 13, 2009 10:08 pm

Are you sure it's not just the triangles which mean that the flight has to be requested?

MilesDependent Mar 13, 2009 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by Benny8444 (Post 11411455)
This may be better for the *A Forum or the NH Forum.


It is probably just a bug. It is nothing compared to what UA.com gets.

Yeah, probably better in *A. But I know a heck of a lot of UA users use the tool and probably don't look at *A forum. So that's why I posted here. Happy for the mods to move over there if appropriate

MilesDependent Mar 13, 2009 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 11411459)
Are you sure it's not just the triangles which mean that the flight has to be requested?

That's exactly correct

But it used to show YES/NO, whereas it now says YES (maybe) for everything

lucky9876coins Mar 13, 2009 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by MilesDependent (Post 11411467)
That's exactly correct

But it used to show YES/NO, whereas it now says YES (maybe) for everything

Well to be clear, it's not showing availability that isn't there, it's just not showing availability altogether. That happens once in a while. Log out and sometimes it'll be back to normal.

Vunder31 Mar 13, 2009 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 11411459)
Are you sure it's not just the triangles which mean that the flight has to be requested?

I also got triangles when I logged on.
It doesn't mean that the tool is broken; it means that the tool has temporarily lost connection to starnet.

MilesDependent Mar 13, 2009 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 11411471)
Well to be clear, it's not showing availability that isn't there, it's just not showing availability altogether. That happens once in a while. Log out and sometimes it'll be back to normal.

Yeah, you're correct. I've not seen it do that before. I will keep an eye over the next few days and hopefully it'll come back.


Originally Posted by Vunder31
I got triangles when I logged on.
It doesn't mean that the tool is broken; it means that the tool has temporarily lost connection to starnet.

Yup that is what I got as well. As lucky said above, it's really just not showing anything, as opposed to showing everything which I originally implied.

Vunder31 Mar 13, 2009 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by MilesDependent (Post 11411467)
That's exactly correct

But it used to show YES/NO, whereas it now says YES (maybe) for everything

Triangle doesn't mean "Yes (maybe)". It means that the tool doesn't have access to the data. Once the connection to starnet is restored, it will show the usual "O" (available), "X" (no availability) and "-" (class not offered)

lucky9876coins Mar 13, 2009 10:17 pm

Does this mean Starnet blocking is lifted?:p

Ocn Vw 1K Mar 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Please follow in our Star Alliance forum. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, United forum.

KVS Mar 13, 2009 10:56 pm

Pls see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...ist-award.html & http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-d...l#post11409281

fumitani Mar 14, 2009 3:59 am

it isn't working properly as I am checking seats everyday for one of my sectors :S

RTW4 Mar 14, 2009 5:07 am

Just checked again and it is not working....

macabus Mar 14, 2009 8:43 am

Still down.

dodgeflyer Mar 14, 2009 1:09 pm

Still down.

macabus Mar 14, 2009 1:45 pm

Last time this happened the ANA tool was not displaying OZ availability for 10 days.

Vunder31 Mar 14, 2009 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by macabus (Post 11413748)
Last time this happened the ANA tool was down for 10 days.

KVS is having the same problem. The problem is on the starnet side, not ANA.

KVS Mar 14, 2009 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by Vunder31 (Post 11413754)
KVS is having the same problem. The problem is on the starnet side, not ANA.

Access to the StarNet system continues to be intermittent throughout this morning/afternoon EST, but is was up as of a few seconds ago:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.4/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
FRI  01 May 2009 / 1 Seat

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C      Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------
TG        911    LHR  12:30    BKK  06:20 +1  346      FS-  CS+  YS+
 -> TG    991    BKK  08:00 +1  SYD  20:00 +1  773      FS/  CS-  YS+
TG        917    LHR  21:30    BKK  15:05 +1  744      FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> TG    993    BKK  19:15 +1  SYD  07:15 +2  773      FS/  CS-  YS+
SQ        317    LHR  11:55    SIN  07:45 +1  388      FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> SQ    219    SIN  09:25 +1  SYD  18:55 +1  744      FS-  CS-  YS-
SQ        321    LHR  22:05    SIN  17:55 +1  388      FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> SQ    221    SIN  20:35 +1  SYD  05:55 +2  388      FS/  CS-  YS+


UA Fan Mar 14, 2009 2:35 pm

i see this when i keep checking diff dates for the same routing continously.

dodgeflyer Mar 14, 2009 3:50 pm

It is working again for me now.

Then checked further into the future and now it doesn't work. Seems like it is in the process of being fixed.

gleff Mar 14, 2009 5:59 pm

This has been driving me NUTS!!!

Some people have nervous tics, I check award inventory.

macabus Mar 14, 2009 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 11414672)
This has been driving me NUTS!!!

Some people have nervous tics, I check award inventory.

I'm right there with you...

Some people have Tourettes syndrome. I have Travelerettes.

harryhv Mar 14, 2009 6:47 pm

Still down.

What's the alternative? AC ? LH junior ?
Edit: that's www.jetfriends.com but takes a week to get a PIN. And guess what, it's down too.

NewbieRunner Mar 14, 2009 7:08 pm

There are several messages about disruptions due to system maintenance on ANA's Japanese language website this weekend ranging from 15 mins to 1.5 hrs, but the last scheduled maintenance period should have finished several hours ago.

UA Fan Mar 14, 2009 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by harryhv (Post 11414844)
Still down.

What's the alternative? AC ? LH junior ?
Edit: that's www.jetfriends.com but takes a week to get a PIN. And guess what, it's down too.

What exactly is this website?

harryhv Mar 14, 2009 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 11414928)
What exactly is this website?

Sign up your child or your dog for jetfriends.com, Lufthansa's kids club, and you can check award availability for LH, OS and the elusive LX, not sure about *A. See this thread

holtju2 Mar 14, 2009 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by Vunder31 (Post 11413754)
KVS is having the same problem. The problem is on the starnet side, not ANA.

LOL! :D :D

Where do you think that the KVS is getting the data from?

harryhv Mar 14, 2009 9:20 pm

Was up for 15mins a moment ago, just went down again

soitgoes Mar 14, 2009 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by holtju2 (Post 11415256)
Where do you think that the KVS is getting the data from?

Exactly...
KVS's Star Availability function just screen scrapes from ANA. That's why you have to enter an ANA account number/password in KVS in order for that function.

deconz Mar 15, 2009 8:14 am

still down when I checked just now

bmvaughn Mar 15, 2009 8:49 am

Now is the time to become good friends with your local UA agent. Actually even knowing the possible routings (but not availability) was very helpful when booking an intra-europe award. The nonstop flights I wanted ex-LHR were full, so I routed via FRA and ZRH :)

soitgoes Mar 15, 2009 8:52 am


Originally Posted by bmvaughn (Post 11416603)
Now is the time to become good friends with your local UA agent.

The UA Japan Voice Response line is also great for Star Alliance award availability.

cockpitvisit Mar 15, 2009 9:35 am

Awards on the ANA own metal show up normally, so the problem must be with the Starnet access, not with the tool itself.

onlysuites Mar 15, 2009 9:39 am


Originally Posted by harryhv (Post 11415326)
Was up for 15mins a moment ago, just went down again

Still down. So when Starnet is down are *A members not able to make bookings?

gleff Mar 15, 2009 11:55 am

working currently

soitgoes Mar 15, 2009 11:57 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 11416793)
Still down. So when Starnet is down are *A members not able to make bookings?

I don't know if this is a case of StarNet being down or the ANA website connection to StarNet being down. In addition, airlines could always put in a request for a seat.

holtju2 Mar 15, 2009 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by soitgoes (Post 11417294)
In addition, airlines could always put in a request for a seat.

We know how this works in U's case, however. Putting a sell request through bypassing the UA's version Starnet.

mahasamatman Mar 15, 2009 4:06 pm

I've been getting valid results on ANA (for LH flights at least) today.

onlysuites Mar 15, 2009 11:56 pm

Seems to be working for most of the searches ^

Only one I can't get to work is

AKL Auckland Int'l NZ [NZAA]
NAN Nadi Int'l FJ [NFFN]


Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------
NZ 56 AKL 10:00 Nand 12:05 320 FS@ CS@ YS@


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