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hugoalone Aug 8, 2006 12:09 am

J on OS
 
I just made a booking with OS and I got a business class in J
It says on their website J = Holiday Business.

Is this Class credited with the double mileage like C or D ?

WindFlyer Sep 4, 2006 11:56 am


Originally Posted by hugoalone
I just made a booking with OS and I got a business class in J
It says on their website J = Holiday Business.

Is this Class credited with the double mileage like C or D ?

Assuming (per your profile) that you are crediting to LH's M&M... then it is 200%, per this page.

DJ Bitterbarn Oct 6, 2006 6:38 am

Standby?
 
Not sure if this is an obvious thing, but it's something I haven't been able to find an answer for:

What booking classes are used for standby flights or are they the same classes as one would get for a regular booking? Specifically, I have a few days off coming up and want to go anywhere in the EU from DUB, but want to get the miles to get/keep status. So if I were to end up on a flight in (eg) BC, would I still get the miles for a J or C flight, or would it be some other, non-status class?

thijsseh Oct 7, 2006 3:07 am


Originally Posted by DJ Bitterbarn
Not sure if this is an obvious thing, but it's something I haven't been able to find an answer for:

What booking classes are used for standby flights or are they the same classes as one would get for a regular booking? Specifically, I have a few days off coming up and want to go anywhere in the EU from DUB, but want to get the miles to get/keep status. So if I were to end up on a flight in (eg) BC, would I still get the miles for a J or C flight, or would it be some other, non-status class?

Most airlines appear to use the (sensible) rule that you get the miles for the class / fare that you PAID for, not the one that you travelled in. I am not sure what the situation is with what booking class is used for standby, I have always assumed (but this is untested) that a standby is a 'normal' booking class without availability. Interesting topic, I would like to understand this better!

Cheetah_SA Nov 25, 2006 4:30 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh
Just got an upgrade to BC on SA.
It is I (used to be W, pre *A)

Kiwi Flyer, could you please correct the SA codes. They are using O and I for upgrades as well as awards. (W was the old upgrade award.)

flo-e May 26, 2007 1:49 am

Does booking class H earn 100% in LH?

THD May 26, 2007 2:07 am

Yes. H is 100% if you mean LH on M&M but even if you mean something else, it still is probably 100%. H is one of the highest economy classes behind YB and G.

100,000miler Sep 16, 2007 10:29 am

deleted, found my answer!

Al B Sep 16, 2007 2:21 pm

KiwiFlyer - AC discontinued Z class as an Economy bucket some time ago. It's recently reappeared, but is now a Discounted Business fare bucket on some routes and a Web Fare Business on others. Their new structure looks like -

J CABIN - J C Z as revenue, I for Aeroplan FF upgrades, D for rewards.
J C Z eliglble to earn COS bonus, but there are different policies for different routings in the internal AE scheme. As such, I strongly suggest a check of host FF schemes information to see if AC will pay a C COS on a route you are interested in, in particular.

Y CABIN - Y M U B H V Q L A R K N G P E T are revenue, W for rewards.
Classes that will need checking via host FF schemes as far as mileage earning potential goes are R K N G P E T, on both international and internal North American routes. Carribbean routes also have different earning policies.

S class seems to have gone as AC has dropped their Club Class product.

Kiwi Flyer Sep 16, 2007 2:31 pm

OP updated

Flying2Much Sep 19, 2007 3:19 am

One update on UA,

X, internally known as (NF) is a fare class for Upgraded first rather than Economy which would be XY within UA.

travel agent Oct 16, 2007 5:48 am

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Review your itinerary Flight From To Date Depart Arrive Stops Duration Aircraft Fare

AC415 Montreal, Trudeau (YUL) Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ) Mon Nov-19 14:00 15:25
0 14hr15 77W Leisure S

is there a new S class on ac?

Al B Oct 16, 2007 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by travel agent (Post 8567106)
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Review your itinerary Flight From To Date Depart Arrive Stops Duration Aircraft Fare

AC415 Montreal, Trudeau (YUL) Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ) Mon Nov-19 14:00 15:25
0 14hr15 77W Leisure S

is there a new S class on ac?

Yes - recently appeared. Earns 100% EQM in the internal Aeroplan scheme.

crossings Nov 11, 2007 3:56 am

"R" class on LH/OS/LX?
 
Anybody knows what "R" class is used for on LH/OS/LX? I've seen that it's business, however I only knew the paid booking classes CDZ (& J on Swiss) + I for non-paid travel (e.g. upgrades, awards) in business. Maybe this is for LH/OS/LX employee travel in business?

Kiwi Flyer Nov 12, 2007 4:57 pm

R is indeed a travel industry rate - not able to be booked by general public.

crossings Nov 13, 2007 7:44 pm

So my travel agency must be very clever :). Thanks for your answer, Kiwi Flyer.

kjsaw Nov 14, 2007 1:00 am


Originally Posted by crossings (Post 8725943)
So my travel agency must be very clever :). Thanks for your answer, Kiwi Flyer.

Clever if you are happy not earning points. If I was offered C with no points, or Y with points, I would probably take C.

thijsseh Nov 14, 2007 9:43 am


Originally Posted by kjsaw (Post 8727139)
Clever if you are happy not earning points. If I was offered C with no points, or Y with points, I would probably take C.

Hmm, I am pondering if that is a true FT'er response or not. :confused: :D

mahasamatman Dec 12, 2007 10:03 am

Does anyone have the official info for CA and FM yet? According to united.com, it looks like
CA Air China
FC: FAP
BC: CDZJ
EC: YBMHK
EC (discounted): LQGSVUW

FM Shanghai Airlines
FC: FA
BC: CD
EC: YBEGHKLMQSTUVW
But we all know how accurate united.com tends to be. Plus, I don't know the upgrade/award seat codes.

SK_RSJ Dec 12, 2007 10:30 am

SK update:

-Y,S,B are now Economy Extra for both intra-Europe and Intercontinental.
-Y,S,B should be removed from the Economy Class line as they are featured on the Economy Extra line above (Economy Extra is a distinctive service class with separate cabin on SK).
-The order of booking classes for Economy Extra should be Y, S, B (B is used for Economy Extra Restricted and has the least availability of the three).
-W and lower could be moved to a new line called "Economy (discounted)". Same service class as Economy but typically earn less points in most programs (25% mileage in SKs own EuroBonus).
-The A class should be first in line for Business Class. It is only available long haul and is a first class priced booking class which will guarantee any traveller a seat on any SK long haul flight up to departure. The availability of A-class is always 0 in GDS-systems.

hclee01 Dec 28, 2007 8:14 am

Earning Miles to SQ KF - Eligible Booking Class
 
Just to add to the reference on the list of booking classes which you will be eligible to earn flight miles when accruing to SQ KF FFP.

You can get the information from the list at SQ website:
https://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_...vels_Sep07.pdf

LilZeppelin Feb 13, 2008 6:49 pm

LH award booking codes
 
LH awards for economy booked within 2wks ("fly-smart") are booked into with which letter?

ACflyerDE Feb 14, 2008 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by LilZeppelin (Post 9247663)
LH awards for economy booked within 2wks ("fly-smart") are booked into with which letter?

They book into X, the regular class for economy awards.

mogoy Feb 23, 2008 4:07 am

European air pass
 
Does anybody know the booking classes of European airpass on European carriers ?

Thx for helping

ACflyerDE Feb 29, 2008 8:12 am


Originally Posted by mogoy (Post 9299984)
Does anybody know the booking classes of European airpass on European carriers ?

Thx for helping

Here you are:

BD Q
JK H
JP H
KF H
LH H
LO H
LX H
OS H
OU Q
SK H
TP H

KVS May 27, 2008 5:52 pm

Correction: US

First Upgrade: O/P
Business Upgrade: J

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...01&postcount=2

Kiwi Flyer May 27, 2008 8:10 pm

Thanks, OP updated.

Does anyone have codes for TK?

SK_RSJ Jun 6, 2008 4:19 pm

New award booking class for SK; Economy Extra awards is now P.

Jetstreamer Jun 9, 2008 10:55 am

Award Classes for Air China
 
Does anyone know what the award booking classes are air Air China? Is it O, I, X or something different?

Kiwi Flyer Jun 9, 2008 2:14 pm

Does anyone have the codes for MS Egypt Air (they might change when it joins *A - if so post joining codes preferred)?

Xevus Jul 3, 2008 4:13 am

Regarding MS, this might be useful for starters.

http://www.flysas.com/en/EuroBonus/S...nce/Egypt-Air/

SK_RSJ Jul 3, 2008 6:28 am

SAS (SK) new award class for Economy Extra is P.

Al B Jul 30, 2008 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9851261)
Does anyone have the codes for MS Egypt Air (they might change when it joins *A - if so post joining codes preferred)?

MS (and CA, FM and TK for that matter) appear to be Star Standard for the "things that matter most" to Star fliers.

O I X for rewards. (F, Biz, Y cabins respectively)
A D M H for RTW's (F, Biz, Y 123, Y StarSpecial respectively)
Some differences for internal domestic travel on CA.

SmilingBoy Jul 30, 2008 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 3827065)
SA South African
FC : FA PU O
BC : JCZ DR I
EC : YBMHKSQTVLXG W X

I assume you can remove First Class since all SA 747s are retired.

SmilingBoy Jul 30, 2008 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Xevus (Post 9975865)
Regarding MS, this might be useful for starters.

http://www.flysas.com/en/EuroBonus/S...nce/Egypt-Air/

Interesting:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...3907&cid=18002
Look at the difference between Q and H between M&M and EB!

Kiwi Flyer Aug 13, 2008 1:15 pm

I've added the booking classes listed in 2008 *A reference guide. Note this lists in order first the common *A booking classes then the uncommon ones, so appears in the wrong order in aggregate. The information is sufficiently different from the previous data in the OP that I've shown both sets of data.

SmilingBoy Aug 14, 2008 3:29 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 10196887)
2008 *A reference guide.

Any place where I can find this online?

Kiwi Flyer Aug 14, 2008 1:41 pm

There is a link in the *A useful reference links sticky ;)

ualboston1k Aug 14, 2008 3:06 pm

SQ biz fare for *A Circle Pacific
 
What class does SQ book into for a business *A Circle Pacific fare?

I'm having trouble booking an itinerary on the SQ leg. Seatcounter says Z4D4C4, but they have waitlisted me. :mad:

Kiwi Flyer Aug 14, 2008 6:09 pm

Just because some tool shows availability does not mean there actually is availability for your specific itinerary.

1) The tool you use could be using a GDS that is not native to the airline, and thus not up to date.

2) Some airlines (including SQ) restrict availability based on point of sale (ie they prefer expensively bought Z class over cheaply bought Z class). Some availability tools are based on a certain (normally US) point of sale. Others allow the user to select the point of sale.

3) Some airlines may restrict availability based on fare within a booking class.

4) Married segment logic commonly applies. This is where availability is apportioned between origin and destination pax (O&D) and connecting pax. There are all sorts of reasons for this - eg to make their schedule work more efficiently, to maximise revenue, to reduce risk of delays, etc.


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