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jer Jun 10, 2003 7:41 am

RTW fast as possible
 
Hi,

I am considering a rtw ex cai.

My quesiton, the final inter-con leg can be completed no sooner than 10 days following the first. If I went CAI east bound getting to geneva as fast as possible, would the final leg gva - cai be considered "trans continental"?

Sorry if its an obvious questionh.

Thanks
Jer

zvezda Jun 10, 2003 8:04 am

Should be yes.

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RichardMEL Jun 10, 2003 12:52 pm

Excluding RTWLite (RWSPCL fare) fares, ex-Australia the RWSTAR1/2/3 fares all have a nil minimum stay http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I've lost count the number of RTW's I've completed in 6 or 7 days (yes, everyone thinks I'm crazy !)

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Football Fan Jun 10, 2003 1:20 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RichardMEL:
Excluding RTWLite (RWSPCL fare) fares, ex-Australia the RWSTAR1/2/3 fares all have a nil minimum stay http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I've lost count the number of RTW's I've completed in 6 or 7 days (yes, everyone thinks I'm crazy !)

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What a waste http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.


zvezda Jun 10, 2003 1:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RichardMEL:
I've lost count the number of RTW's I've completed in 6 or 7 days (yes, everyone thinks I'm crazy !)
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What took you so long? It should be possible to complete a RTW in under 48 hours. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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Al B Jun 10, 2003 3:29 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jer:
Hi,I am considering a rtw ex cai.
My quesiton, the final inter-con leg can be completed no sooner than 10 days following the first. If I went CAI east bound getting to geneva as fast as possible, would the final leg gva - cai be considered "trans continental"?
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It does as Star define Mid East and Africa as one continent "Africa".
*However*, if you are commencing this RTW in Africa, the intercontinental rule does not apply, merely the international rule. The Intercontinental rule applies to journeys commencing in Europe. Your last international sector back to country of commencement must be no earlier than 10 days after departure of first international segment. You could, as a hypothetical explanation, fly to another African country and get surface to CAI, earlier than 10 days after leaving. You'd end up with an unused xxx-CAI segment or keep it till a later date but you are still within the rules as you haven't commenced your final international segment back into Egypt.

Cheers.

tcswede Jun 10, 2003 4:35 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zvezda:
What took you so long? It should be possible to complete a RTW in under 48 hours. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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did it in four days week before last http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

had to work two days en route http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Cheers

Thomas

RTW4 Jun 10, 2003 8:40 pm

RichardMEL,
I do not think you are crazy. I am doing a third RTW in a week beginning June 27......

Atuchan Jun 10, 2003 9:34 pm

Just curious, which route is fastest to make
CAI-GVA going east?

The following routing is the fastest?

CAI-DXB-SIN 1410-&gt;0725 12hr15
SIN-NRT-LAX 0945-&gt;1250 18hr05 (+2hr25)
LAX-FRA 1455-&gt;1030 10hr35 (+2hr05)
FRA-GVA 1130-&gt;1235 01hr05 (+1hr)

Total time = 47hr30min

Or can we do better?




[This message has been edited by Atuchan (edited 06-10-2003).]

ph-ndr Jun 11, 2003 12:21 am

I haven't got time to dip into amadeus right now, but avoiding dipping down to SIN should safe time, have a look at this:

CAI-FRA-NRT-YVR-FRA http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I'm always a fan of doing them westwards to make the effect of jet lag as small as possible.

zvezda Jun 11, 2003 2:06 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ph-ndr:

I'm always a fan of doing them westwards to make the effect of jet lag as small as possible.
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I've done them in both directions. The advantage of eastbound is that the flights are of shorter duration. Less time in the air is important to me.

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RichardMEL Jun 11, 2003 8:28 am

Well all I can say is I actually wanted to stop once or twice on my RTW. However work colleagues, friends etc couldn't understand the 6/7 day thing. The joke got to be "Oh, so you're going away? Which AIRPORTS will you visit this time?" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

You might be able to do it in 48 hours, but unless someone pays for me in F, I want to be living when I am ejected at the other end. Heck, doing MEL-SYD-LAX-IAD-FRA in one go is difficult enough.

Yes, I'm getting old http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

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Atuchan Jun 11, 2003 6:31 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ph-ndr:
I haven't got time to dip into amadeus right now, but avoiding dipping down to SIN should save time, have a look at this:

CAI-FRA-NRT-YVR-FRA http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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humm.. too much transit time in NRT
arr: 7:45AM and dep: 18:35 (+10hr50)

Even,

CAI-FRA 4hr20
FRA-NRT 11h00 (+5hr30)
NRT-JFK 12h30 (+3hr20)
JFK-FRA 07h35 (+5hr30)
FRA-GVA 01h05 (+2hr25)

are 53hr 15 minutes.

I concur with RichardMEL! It wil be nice to stop by at some of these places on the way.


Hagbard Viking Jun 11, 2003 11:20 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zvezda:
What took you so long? It should be possible to complete a RTW in under 48 hours. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
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I thought the Star RTW's required a minimum of three stopovers (&gt;24 hours). How do you squeeze that into 48 hours?

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zvezda Jun 11, 2003 11:32 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Hagbard Viking:
I thought the Star RTW's required a minimum of three stopovers (&gt;24 hours). How do you squeeze that into 48 hours?
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You're right. One cannot complete a Star RTW in 48 hours according to the rules. Most of my Star RTWs end up with two stopovers (&gt;= 24 hours), but I've never tried to fly a RTW without any stopovers. I always want at least one.

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