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AC*SE Aug 11, 2000 10:26 am

New * FF program?
 
See:
http://www.btonline.co.uk/bustrav/co...l.ez?REF=10015

Very short on details, but it will be interesting to see how they structure it, whether it will be linked to existing member programs, and whether it will bring in better alliance-wide benefits.

james Aug 11, 2000 7:47 pm

Sk***am has an alliance-wide level for top tier flyers giving common benefits - I wonder if this is a response to that? In any case, it seems logical that if you are going to have closely integrated long term alliances, you should have unified, or very closely related, ff programs.

JRF Aug 12, 2000 5:18 am

Yes, and we at SkyTeam just woke up to a new set of FF rules for 2001. You may be better off with each airline having their own program. The new DL 2001 rules are making me go out and rethink who I will be flying on in a few months.

Rudi Dec 7, 2000 10:42 am

from InsideFlyer, international edition, december-2000 http://www.webflyer.com/@flyer/intl/dec00/pp&r.htm

Eye on Alliances

There is a rumor afoot that Star Alliance is planning to offer a joint frequent flyer program with a common currency, which could be launched as soon as the end of this year. An earlier rumor indicated that oneworld is also steering down the same runway. It will be interesting to see which alliance takes off first -- public relations representatives are remaining tight-lipped.

kempis Dec 7, 2000 11:02 am

I havent heard these rumours. There is only a few weeks left of this year. Will this ever happen? Personally I dont think so

Gaucho100K Dec 7, 2000 3:54 pm


I dont mind a new program, but I think Rudi's point about competition (and the good it does to us fflyers) is key. I dont want the alliances to become more of a Cartel than they already are.


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Markie Dec 8, 2000 12:11 am

I was warned that perhaps it would be sensible to cash in as many United miles as I could in the near future. Nothing specific - just advice use some of 1.6million UA miles in 2001.


Gaucho100K Dec 8, 2000 4:56 pm

Markie-- interesting post.... whats the basis for this? I have a large amount of mileage on my account, as many others on the boards. Maybe you have some good tips for all of us. Thanks,

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seawolf Dec 8, 2000 6:19 pm

I wonder what a joint frequent flyer program with a common currency really mean? Are they going to euro-ize the different * FFPs? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Markie Dec 8, 2000 10:59 pm

I was talking to an Intl First Class concierge who was crptically warning me to cash in some - I guess she expects raises in redemption levels to match AA's perhaps.

I have not compare redemption charts on US/UA and so have no idea which is the cheaper. Perhaps this is a place to start?

peter42 Dec 12, 2000 2:54 am

For people on LHM&M flying Y mostly a new program can only get better, especially
if one is based in D.

curt Dec 12, 2000 10:19 am


Originally posted by peter42:
For people on LHM&M flying Y mostly a new program can only get better, especially
if one is based in D.

Peter42, while I'm with you that M&M is much more desireable for pax flying F or C, it even has its strenghts for people flying Y. You get almost always 1000 minimum miles, can upgrade on LH from any fare and the blackout dates for award flights are moderate. Now if they could lower the mileage requirements for FTL and SEN...
I calculated my miles for 2000 and LH M&M performed better for me than UA M+ although most FT'ers would recommend M+ for people flying Economy. But for me M&M is the better program. So, please, LH don't alter anything but the mileage requirements.

peter42 Dec 12, 2000 12:25 pm

LH credits more miles than some other program, but the awards require more miles too and especially the nice upgrade were
increased by up to 40% last November (Europe-USA from 25' to 35') compared to 20
with UA.
I once started an excel sheat comparing the flights (domestic or FRA-NYC) in C or Y
needed to get status or free tickets and
in almost all cases LH was amongst the worst,
for status even with the foreign 100K.

[This message has been edited by peter42 (edited 12-12-2000).]

curt Dec 13, 2000 2:14 am


Originally posted by peter42:
I once started an excel sheet comparing the flights (domestic or FRA-NYC) in C or Y
needed to get status or free tickets and
in almost all cases LH was amongst the worst,
for status even with the foreign 100K.

I don't care for free tickets, I want the mileage upgrades. And upgrading from W class is fun...


peter42 Dec 13, 2000 2:26 am

You are right upgrading all classes is nice but it is 35' vs 20'


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