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vegaslover8 May 28, 2025 5:59 am

Basic vs WGA+ When Using Points?
 
I always bought WGA fares when using points, And if points needed went down, I was able to "change" flight and rebook the same flight and get the points difference back. Is this still the case with BASIC fares? Or do I need to go with WGA+?

nsx May 28, 2025 6:09 am


Originally Posted by vegaslover8 (Post 37112298)
I always bought WGA fares when using points, And if points needed went down, I was able to "change" flight and rebook the same flight and get the points difference back. Is this still the case with BASIC fares? Or do I need to go with WGA+?

Basic must be canceled and rebooked to capture the savings.

vegaslover8 May 28, 2025 6:16 am


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 37112312)
Basic must be canceled and rebooked to capture the savings.

Extra step of canceling will be annoying, But whatever. Just to be clear that means there is no "real" penalty when using points when booking BASIC except for the extra step? I know for BASIC when buying with money, the travel funds expire in 6months if you cancel.

nsx May 28, 2025 6:21 am


Originally Posted by vegaslover8 (Post 37112327)
Extra step of canceling will be annoying, But whatever. Just to be clear that means there is no "real" penalty when using points when booking BASIC except for the extra step? I know for BASIC when buying with money, the travel funds expire in 6months if you cancel.

There should be no adverse consequences, but we have no reports yet.

vegaslover8 May 28, 2025 6:24 am


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 37112334)
There should be no adverse consequences, but we have no reports yet.

Ok. Thanks! I will be book BASIC with points. And will report back if the points required go down before my flight.

Kacee May 31, 2025 8:27 am

Here's an interesting quirk - I booked a trip PHX-OAK close in on points a couple days ago, and the WGA+ was cheaper (13,500) than the Basic (14,000).

miles_navigator Jun 1, 2025 8:46 am

Reading between the lines, the $5.60 for tax will come back as a flight/$ credit and expire in 6 months from date of booking. That is the main difference I read between BASIC and the old WGA. I haven't tested it out yet. Anyone know if this is true?

nsx Jun 1, 2025 9:04 am


Originally Posted by miles_navigator (Post 37120511)
Reading between the lines, the $5.60 for tax will come back as a flight/$ credit and expire in 6 months from date of booking. That is the main difference I read between BASIC and the old WGA. I haven't tested it out yet. Anyone know if this is true?

Tax should always be refundable. Unless you are booking JetBlue, which never implemented tax refunds correctly.'

Or unless you paid California sales tax on a car battery core deposit.

OK, maybe it's possible...

geo979 Jun 1, 2025 10:05 am


Originally Posted by miles_navigator (Post 37120511)
Reading between the lines, the $5.60 for tax will come back as a flight/$ credit and expire in 6 months from date of booking. That is the main difference I read between BASIC and the old WGA. I haven't tested it out yet. Anyone know if this is true?

This is almost certainly incorrect.

jmw Jun 1, 2025 10:28 am

Never use a flight credit on a points booking anymore unless it's about to expire worthless. Other than that exception, always use a credit card. Never use a gift card either. This rule will always make your $5.60 refundable with no worry about funds expiration.

Claimed Dependent Jun 1, 2025 10:29 am

I've tested booking Basic fares with points. As long as you book the taxes with cash, the points are refundable to your account and the taxes to your form of payment. If you use a flight credit or gift card for the taxes, on cancelation, a credit is generated for that portion of the fare that adopts the 6-month expiration date. The CoC makes clear that you can refund cash-paid taxes back to your form of payment on points bookings, irrespective of fare type. As long as you don't need SDC or standby, booking Basic fares with points seems very logical and avoids short credit expiration situations.

storewanderer Jun 1, 2025 10:45 am

Booking with points seems to be the best use of this Basic fare.

Issue is the redemptions have gotten noticeably more expensive relative to cash prices in a lot of cases.


Claimed Dependent Jun 1, 2025 11:00 am

Seems that they're still tinkering with the values of point redemptions (or their system has had glitches). I've found some good deals, though not in lockstep with cash prices as before. A couple of weeks back, even after they moved to this new model I was able to get some $39 cash price intra-CA flights at 1,359 points. Last year, I once paid 1,911 points for a $39 flight.

storewanderer Jun 1, 2025 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Claimed Dependent (Post 37120753)
Seems that they're still tinkering with the values of point redemptions (or their system has had glitches). I've found some good deals, though not in lockstep with cash prices as before. A couple of weeks back, even after they moved to this new model I was able to get some $39 cash price intra-CA flights at 1,359 points. Last year, I once paid 1,911 points for a $39 flight.

Earlier in May, I found a number of excellent point redemptions. It was when they had one of the 30% off codes. It was like some flights out in the August-October range were back to the old way of points redemptions (odd numbers like 1,359 points instead of the current round numbers like 2,000 points we mostly see now).

A few days after I booked, I went back to do some additional bookings, and everything had been fixed. Flights I booked for around 5k points were now 12k points- out in August-September. Cash price was unchanged, it was just the points price that went way up.

miles_navigator Jun 1, 2025 11:46 am


Originally Posted by Claimed Dependent (Post 37120694)
I've tested booking Basic fares with points. As long as you book the taxes with cash, the points are refundable to your account and the taxes to your form of payment. If you use a flight credit or gift card for the taxes, on cancelation, a credit is generated for that portion of the fare that adopts the 6-month expiration date. The CoC makes clear that you can refund cash-paid taxes back to your form of payment on points bookings, irrespective of fare type. As long as you don't need SDC or standby, booking Basic fares with points seems very logical and avoids short credit expiration situations.

Great, thanks for the confirmation. Glad to be wrong here again was reading between the lines on what is not written.

Glad they will still refund to the CC for taxes.


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