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jmw Jun 1, 2025 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by storewanderer (Post 37120779)
Earlier in May, I found a number of excellent point redemptions. It was when they had one of the 30% off codes. It was like some flights out in the August-October range were back to the old way of points redemptions (odd numbers like 1,359 points instead of the current round numbers like 2,000 points we mostly see now).

A few days after I booked, I went back to do some additional bookings, and everything had been fixed. Flights I booked for around 5k points were now 12k points- out in August-September. Cash price was unchanged, it was just the points price that went way up.

Yeah there were some hot deals a few weeks ago. I bought two transcon round trips for 10k all-in WGA+ where the points redemption was sitting above 2 cents relative to the cash cost at time of booking.

Lala17 Jun 2, 2025 4:10 am


Originally Posted by miles_navigator (Post 37120511)
Reading between the lines, the $5.60 for tax will come back as a flight/$ credit and expire in 6 months from date of booking. That is the main difference I read between BASIC and the old WGA. I haven't tested it out yet. Anyone know if this is true?

I actually had that happen this past weekend and got clarification. I had a previous WTG fare that became BASIC after May 28. Prior to May 28, I had made a change to the flight to get back some points when the rate had gone down. When I went to cancel, the 5.60 was only allowed to go to a flight credit. The response was that once I made a change, that money became a flight credit and became non refundable. If you want to change to a reduced points fare, you must cancel and rebook in order to get the taxes back on CC if you cancel in the future. I argued that I made that original change under WTG fare rules but the “system” had it down as a changed flight and only allowed flight credit.

nsx Jun 2, 2025 11:11 am

Southwest converted a WGA ticket to Basic because it was changed before Basic even existed? Got it.

Food for class action parasites. I look forward to my useless coupon settlement.

joshua362 Jun 2, 2025 11:16 am


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 37122656)
Southwest converted a WGA ticket to Basic because it was changed before Basic even existed? Got it.

Food for class action parasites. I look forward to my useless coupon settlement.

Recall the BS fare drink coupon class action suit some 10 years ago? I must have gotten at least 100 after I had slowed travel significantly. Actually cost me time & money to mail them away, many expired before I could due to the short date.

tth6133 Jun 2, 2025 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by jmw (Post 37121145)
Yeah there were some hot deals a few weeks ago. I bought two transcon round trips for 10k all-in WGA+ where the points redemption was sitting above 2 cents relative to the cash cost at time of booking.

That's when AA was running a 5k promotion for many routes, including transcontinental routes. That promotion also ended on 5/28.

jmw Jun 2, 2025 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Lala17 (Post 37121985)
I actually had that happen this past weekend and got clarification. I had a previous WTG fare that became BASIC after May 28. Prior to May 28, I had made a change to the flight to get back some points when the rate had gone down. When I went to cancel, the 5.60 was only allowed to go to a flight credit. The response was that once I made a change, that money became a flight credit and became non refundable. If you want to change to a reduced points fare, you must cancel and rebook in order to get the taxes back on CC if you cancel in the future. I argued that I made that original change under WTG fare rules but the “system” had it down as a changed flight and only allowed flight credit.

The refare has always made your cash portion nonrefundable pre-5/28. You always had to cancel and rebook new to keep the $5.60 refundable. When I refare points for infrequent travelers pre 5/28, I always cancel them and rebook so funds don't get stuck with them if they don't make the trip. I know I could do the WGA+ trick, but I rather not go through the extra steps.

FoulHooked Jun 2, 2025 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by jmw (Post 37122905)
The refare has always made your cash portion nonrefundable pre-5/28. You always had to cancel and rebook new to keep the $5.60 refundable. When I refare points for infrequent travelers pre 5/28, I always cancel them and rebook so funds don't get stuck with them if they don't make the trip. I know I could do the WGA+ trick, but I rather not go through the extra steps.

This has not been my experience (pre 5/28). Most recent example - WGA for April 2025 trip, booked Sept 2024, refared Jan 2025, canceled April 2025; $5.60 refunded to credit card.

Lala17 Jun 2, 2025 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by FoulHooked (Post 37123000)
This has not been my experience (pre 5/28). Most recent example - WGA for April 2025 trip, booked Sept 2024, refared Jan 2025, canceled April 2025; $5.60 refunded to credit card.

Same. This was the first time tax went to a credit. I always keep an eye out and change to lower fare with points if available. I have always had taxes refunded to card if it was changed and then canceled.

I also didn’t realize that any WGA fares I had prior to May 28 would turn into basic. I would have done wGA+ if I had known.

jmw Jun 2, 2025 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by FoulHooked (Post 37123000)
This has not been my experience (pre 5/28). Most recent example - WGA for April 2025 trip, booked Sept 2024, refared Jan 2025, canceled April 2025; $5.60 refunded to credit card.

I must have changed the flight when capturing the refare to ruin the refundability or done something to mess it up then.


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