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beyondhere Jun 8, 2021 9:21 pm

Boarding Range
 
I was just wondering if any other here have experienced passengers who seem to believe within a range, it doesn't matter where one is in the line, and thus opt to be the first in that group, when others should likely be ahead.

As an example:
When I used to get a boarding position, let's say B12, I'd stand where in 11-15, but try my best to be the second followed by whoever was B11. But I'd see someone with B15 boarding would choose to stand in the far front of me think that within a range, it's permissible. Is that typical or common from your experiences?

PHXflier Jun 8, 2021 10:09 pm

Typically people are pretty good about lining up in numerical order, but if you feel that someone is in the wrong position, you can nicely ask "I am A31; what number are you?", and they will take their appropriate place. In the big scheme of things, though, it does not really make much of a difference whether n or n+2 people are ahead of you.

ray1111 Jun 8, 2021 10:32 pm

Don't forget that some people "grew up" at airports where WN shares the gate, so there's just the temporary 1-30 flip sign at the front, rather than the intermediate markers that we have where WN owns the gate. So I don't get mad; maybe just frustrated because of the effort or $$ I expended to get the better position.

Peoriaman1 Jun 9, 2021 6:33 am

I speak up; if I am B12 and I see B15 is trying to stand in front of me, I say something.

I grew up in a family where our mother let everyone and anyone walk all over us, so I don't put up with it any more.

bobnchi Jun 9, 2021 6:59 am

I have more important things to worry about or fight over. :)

rsteinmetz70112 Jun 9, 2021 8:36 am

I was once in line behind the local Archbishop. I showed him my boarding pass and asked what number he was. He showed me his. It was one behind me. He said "It doesn't matter" and boarded ahead of me. On that flight he got the last exit row aisle seat.

Sometimes it does matter.

dlaue Jun 9, 2021 8:40 am

I always display my boarding number while in line, but I do cover my name. This seems to deter line jumpers just a bit.

dmbolp Jun 9, 2021 10:49 am

Yeah, if the person(s) ahead of me should be behind me, I don't wait/expect for them to move, I move ahead of them, easy

screeton Jun 9, 2021 1:42 pm

It can be handled in a proactive, polite manner. Many of the people out of line are newbies who have not flown often and do not understand the complex math required to count from 1 to 60 while also correlating it to the alphabet A-B-C and also correlating geographically to a large silver pole with numerals on the pole. Regular flyers should be happy to assist in their understanding.... you are A-41? Your position is on the other side of the pole and back about 10 people, etc. I do the reverse also... some weeks back I had an elderly lady standing next to me when I was A-58. When I asked her number, she was something like A-25, but somewhat clueless and obviously nervous about the entire boarding process. I told her she had a much better number than mine and helped get her in the right place. She was most appreciative and I felt that I had done my "good deed" for the day (or perhaps the month, LOL). For those who are deliberately out of line because they want to cut ahead of someone, as the OP is suggesting, they particularly need assistance to be moved into the proper location. Just consider yourself a "junior" gate agent.:D

beyondhere Jun 9, 2021 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by dmbolp (Post 33315492)
Yeah, if the person(s) ahead of me should be behind me, I don't wait/expect for them to move, I move ahead of them, easy

In principle, I agree but typically, it is too tight if B10 is there- to just move ahead without asking B15 the boarding number directly, and expecting he or she will agree. It becomes a pesky task on my part but sometimes if the person seems approachable, I ask. I don't know how definite Southwest is with boarding number also, and if many passengers interpret that it's a range situation. I sometimes take the assumption that the fellow is legitimately in front of me, to only find out when the scan is visible that the fellow was supposed to be after me.

pitflyer Jun 9, 2021 7:25 pm

In my house experience a lot of flyers think the groups of five are range and it seems the person at the bottom of that range always feels that way.

While I don't personally insist on straight numeric others do and I will show my number when asked. Usually someone in the group starts that discussion and then the sub group rearranges once everyone starts comparing.

Lomapaseo Jun 9, 2021 9:19 pm

I paid a large "A" upgrade position for a coast to coast and watched many younger college age folks just flash their lower numbers which seemed to be photoshopped on spare boarding passes.

I just skip WN alltogether to avoid this trick and never go back for long hauls

Tanic Jun 9, 2021 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by Lomapaseo (Post 33316900)
I paid a large "A" upgrade position for a coast to coast and watched many younger college age folks just flash their lower numbers which seemed to be photoshopped on spare boarding passes. I just skip WN alltogether to avoid this trick and never go back for long hauls

Except that when the Ops Agent scans the photoshopped boarding pass the computer will go Bzzzzzt because the position is out of range and the scammers will be sent away in shame.

pgh234 Jun 10, 2021 4:04 am


Originally Posted by pitflyer (Post 33316710)
In my house experience a lot of flyers think the groups of five are range and it seems the person at the bottom of that range always feels that way.

While I don't personally insist on straight numeric others do and I will show my number when asked. Usually someone in the group starts that discussion and then the sub group rearranges once everyone starts comparing.

Considering how crammed all of the gate areas are, I can't see any value in pushing everyone and their carry-ons out of my way so that I can get on the plane two people sooner. If someone in my subgroup wants to take their spot in front of me, I let them squeeze by. However, I can't find the value in being B-12 vs B-14. The plane all gets there at the same time. Exit rows don't matter to me either since I am usually traveling with kids.

m907 Jun 10, 2021 4:33 am


Originally Posted by screeton (Post 33315930)
It can be handled in a proactive, polite manner. Many of the people out of line are newbies who have not flown often and do not understand the complex math required to count from 1 to 60 while also correlating it to the alphabet A-B-C and also correlating geographically to a large silver pole with numerals on the pole. Regular flyers should be happy to assist in their understanding.... you are A-41? Your position is on the other side of the pole and back about 10 people, etc. I do the reverse also... some weeks back I had an elderly lady standing next to me when I was A-58. When I asked her number, she was something like A-25, but somewhat clueless and obviously nervous about the entire boarding process. I told her she had a much better number than mine and helped get her in the right place. She was most appreciative and I felt that I had done my "good deed" for the day (or perhaps the month, LOL). For those who are deliberately out of line because they want to cut ahead of someone, as the OP is suggesting, they particularly need assistance to be moved into the proper location. Just consider yourself a "junior" gate agent.:D

I'll never understand the disdain frequent flyers have for infrequent flyers. As long as they're not breaking rules or misbehaving, why sneer?


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