The safety of 7M8 is beyond the bigger problem, which the bigger problem is to ensure this does not happen again.
FAA has 2 major responsibilities - safety and promote aviation. While I won't say FAA has been paid off by the airlines, indeed FAA has a conflict of interest in its policy making. In the case of 787, FAA grounded 787s rapidly despite no fatality. So when 346 passengers were killed, FAA should ground the 7M8 in light of safety (side note - IMHO, grounding the 7M8 actually helps to Boeing to recover from all the bad press, regardless the crashes were related to Boeing or not). So when anyone (including FAA and airlines) brainwash the public that 7M8s are safe, I would say they are liar even the cause of the crashes still remain unknown. |
Originally Posted by jmw
(Post 30875687)
Ive talked to Southwest and they are doing the right thing in my case and I have different flights with no fees or upfare
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Not at all surprised by this. They are running the numbers. Most will accept their flight on the assigned plane.
Airlines do not care if a plane with 150 people crashes. |
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 30875695)
FAA has 2 major responsibilities - safety and promote aviation.
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 30875695)
In the case of 787, FAA grounded 787s rapidly despite no fatality
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Originally Posted by audio-nut
(Post 30875856)
Wasn't promotion of the industry removed from their mandate after the ValuJet crash?
Originally Posted by audio-nut
(Post 30875856)
Didn't Japan do it first and then the FAA followed them?
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 30874317)
UA has 14 7M9 in their existing fleet
WN has 35 7M8 in their existing fleet. AA has 24 7M8 in their existing fleet. Can CNN do some research before reporting false information? Folks will also mistaken 738s and 739s as Max. |
Singapore grounded all 737 MAX
Singapore authorities grounded all 737 Max, this mostly affects SilkAir. Lion Air and Garuda grounded their 737 Max fleet, too (11 / 1 planes).
Edit: not just grounded, they banned all 737 Max (all variants) from SG airspace. |
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0312/1035823-ethiopian-airlines-crash/
Australia has banned 737max from operating to thru or from its airspace. |
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 30875872)
No. It is still showing up as one of the mission of FAA as of the time of this post.
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Originally Posted by mctrees02
(Post 30874580)
and you know the 737max is broken because???
Boeing to upgrade software in 737 MAX 8 fleet in 'weeks' Boeing Co confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 MAX 8, a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate “design changes” in the aircraft by April. |
Originally Posted by NauticalWheeler
(Post 30875815)
Airlines do not care if a plane with 150 people crashes.
The "airline" is the shareholders, and I can guarantee you they do care if a crash happens. |
Don't planes constantly send data back to earth? And didn't the pilot communicate about a problem before the crash?
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS... |
Originally Posted by TBD
(Post 30876698)
Don't planes constantly send data back to earth? And didn't the pilot communicate about a problem before the crash?
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS... Some aircraft send data to earth in realtime (IIRC this was discussed extensively at the time the MH flight disappeared, with emphasis on a system that appeared to be focused on detecting when the aircraft needs maintenance), but some of it seems to be an added cost option at least on some aircraft types. |
Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 30874484)
Given people's impressions that it isn't an issue because these are "third-world nations" and they don't know anything about safety, I guess the solution is to only allow "first-world nations" to fly the 737max.
To topic, WN is in deep trouble now, with mechanics problems and now this. They are cancelling flight left and right. They really need to think about diversifying their fleet and settle with mechanics union asap. |
An important part of WN's early business model was having a matched fleet in order to minimize training (including maintenance training) and parts inventory costs. This was very successful and gave WN a big advantage over legacy carriers. It was also beneficial for WN's operations to be able to substitute aircraft for each other, although without seat assignments, this aspect is relatively less important. |
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