Early Bird Got B-11
#1
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Early Bird Got B-11
I don't fly LUV all that often, but when I do I pay the extra $15 for "Early Bird" - unless I have a Business Select ticket. In the past, with Early Bird I have always been in the A boarding group, and not toward the back of A. This time, I got B-11. Does that happen often? I assume it is because there are a large number of people who have A list or pay the $15? Among people who pay the $15, how does LUV prioritize boarding positions?
Does LUV still allow passengers to purchase a boarding position in the A1 to A15 positions, at the airport? I seem to recall they used to do that.
If I do that, do I get a refund for the $15 I paid for Early Bird? (I don't really care about that -- its business travel -- just wondering).
Thanks.
Does LUV still allow passengers to purchase a boarding position in the A1 to A15 positions, at the airport? I seem to recall they used to do that.
If I do that, do I get a refund for the $15 I paid for Early Bird? (I don't really care about that -- its business travel -- just wondering).
Thanks.
Last edited by Chamor; Mar 18, 2018 at 2:02 pm
#2
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I believe it goes in the order of EBCI purchase date/time for the trip. That said, if the leg you're on is heavily booked as a connection leg for other flights, I think the folks that were checked in at T-36 for their first leg will be assigned their boarding position for the second leg at T-37+, and you'll be after them regardless of when you purchased your EBCI.
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My data point: A group of us were going to DCA. We all bought tickets with Early Bird on the same day about 3 months out. We compared our boarding numbers at the airport and they were sequential and low (A 20, A 21, etc). It tells me that early bird works best if you are buying the tickets early and the flight isn't half full coming from somewhere else. It might not make money sense to purchase early bird too close to actual flight date.
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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I had a flight last month where i only checked in 5 minutes late and 80% of the passengers were in front of me. That incident turned me off of buying EB.
I only consider EBCI if I know ahead of time I won't be able to check in at T24 (which is rare). But if I may not be able to check in I'll probably just go AA where I don't need to worry about it.
As a strictly leisure traveler I wish WN would go back to issuing the plastic boarding cards at the gate. I was never outside of top ten when they did that
I only consider EBCI if I know ahead of time I won't be able to check in at T24 (which is rare). But if I may not be able to check in I'll probably just go AA where I don't need to worry about it.
As a strictly leisure traveler I wish WN would go back to issuing the plastic boarding cards at the gate. I was never outside of top ten when they did that
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#6
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I find $15 a low price to pay for not having to check in at EXACTLY T-24. And especially when its business travel, so not even my $15!
This is the first time I have been in the B group when buying EBCI. More typically its something like A 30.
My bad luck too -- its on a long flight.
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That is an interesting perspective. That sort of event would actually make me MORE inclined to buy EBCI.
I find $15 a low price to pay for not having to check in at EXACTLY T-24. And especially when its business travel, so not even my $15!
This is the first time I have been in the B group when buying EBCI. More typically its something like A 30.
My bad luck too -- its on a long flight.
I find $15 a low price to pay for not having to check in at EXACTLY T-24. And especially when its business travel, so not even my $15!
This is the first time I have been in the B group when buying EBCI. More typically its something like A 30.
My bad luck too -- its on a long flight.
Hmmm... I'd love to get a hold of one of the ones used in California airports. Shaped like the state outline
Last edited by Lost; Mar 18, 2018 at 2:48 pm
#8
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I believe it goes in the order of EBCI purchase date/time for the trip. That said, if the leg you're on is heavily booked as a connection leg for other flights, I think the folks that were checked in at T-36 for their first leg will be assigned their boarding position for the second leg at T-37+, and you'll be after them regardless of when you purchased your EBCI.
Connecting passengers who did not buy EBCI do have an advantage over local passengers who also did not buy EBCI because their t-24 check in will happen earlier than the local passengers.
The best way to get a low A position with EBCI is to book well in advance.
Note that if you change a reservation that has EBCI associated to a new flight, the timestamp for EBCI becomes the timestamp of the change to the new flight.
Flight changes can sometimes cause EBCI to drop off (it's supposed to be retained as long as the confirmation number is) and glitches happen.
EBCI is non-refundable unless 1) you don't actually receive it (check your boarding pass for the indicator), or 2) Southwest cancels or changes the flight.
#9
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My data point: A group of us were going to DCA. We all bought tickets with Early Bird on the same day about 3 months out. We compared our boarding numbers at the airport and they were sequential and low (A 20, A 21, etc). It tells me that early bird works best if you are buying the tickets early and the flight isn't half full coming from somewhere else. It might not make money sense to purchase early bird too close to actual flight date.
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#12
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Thanks. The irony, for me, is I bought this ticket further in advance than I usually do. Around 2 weeks ago. I know many people buy further in advance, of course. Just out of interest, do you have any sense of how rare the result I have occurs -- buying EBCI and getting position B-11?
I have done this about a dozen times in the past, and always got middle of the A group, or thereabout. Maybe I have just been lucky?
What is your guess, on a fairly full 5 hour long flight, whether I can get an aisle seat with position B 11? I am guessing I still have a decent chance of getting SOME aisle seat?
I have done this about a dozen times in the past, and always got middle of the A group, or thereabout. Maybe I have just been lucky?
What is your guess, on a fairly full 5 hour long flight, whether I can get an aisle seat with position B 11? I am guessing I still have a decent chance of getting SOME aisle seat?
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100%. And as an added bonus, since you will be boarding after family boarding, you can make sure you pick a seat away from those screaming kids that like to kick the back of the seat.
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Thanks. The irony, for me, is I bought this ticket further in advance than I usually do. Around 2 weeks ago. I know many people buy further in advance, of course. Just out of interest, do you have any sense of how rare the result I have occurs -- buying EBCI and getting position B-11?
I have done this about a dozen times in the past, and always got middle of the A group, or thereabout. Maybe I have just been lucky?
What is your guess, on a fairly full 5 hour long flight, whether I can get an aisle seat with position B 11? I am guessing I still have a decent chance of getting SOME aisle seat?
I have done this about a dozen times in the past, and always got middle of the A group, or thereabout. Maybe I have just been lucky?
What is your guess, on a fairly full 5 hour long flight, whether I can get an aisle seat with position B 11? I am guessing I still have a decent chance of getting SOME aisle seat?
As for an aisle seat, do the math. How many aisle seats on a plane (depends on whether it is a 700 or 800) and what is your boarding position? Highly likely you can get an aisle seat, even with pre-boarders, A-listers at the end of the A group and families boarding ahead of you at B-11. Not everybody prefers an aisle seat.
I wouldn't have the slightest worry if I were you.
Let us know how it works out.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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If the OP was flying BBB-CCC for example, and lot of folks were flying (any airport)-BBB-CCC, wouldn't all EBCI purchasers who flew into BBB have an advantage over all EBCI purchasers who just flew BBB-CCC, as their T-36 was earlier?