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MUFFP Jan 12, 2010 6:37 am

china eastern airlines will join in ST
 
MU likes to join in ST.
In this week,MU will declare it.

Then in china,there are CZ/MU/FM in ST.
GOOD NEWS!

Supersonic Swinger Jan 12, 2010 6:48 am

Do you have a source? And what does this mean for Shanghai Airlines?

Given their current financial situations, you'd have to hope they'll pull through.

http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...--garuda/page1

sebastravel Jan 12, 2010 8:02 am

a dark day for FFlyers
 
The day MU gets in any alliance would be a DARK day for Frequent flyers anywhere in the world.

Zazza Jan 12, 2010 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by sebastravel
The day MU gets in any alliance would be a DARK day for Frequent flyers anywhere in the world.

Why? Can you please be more explicit?

alex0683de Jan 12, 2010 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by Zazza (Post 13167068)
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Why? Can you please be more explicit?

MU are dreadful. I've flown them on two trips (SHA-PEK-SHA and PVG-HKG-PVG), and I really hope I never have to see the inside of one of their aircraft again.

I was working in China at the time, and even my Chinese colleagues thought China Eastern was bad (and that I was brave for flying with them).

Zazza Jan 12, 2010 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by alex0683de (Post 13167106)
MU are dreadful. I've flown them on two trips (SHA-PEK-SHA and PVG-HKG-PVG), and I really hope I never have to see the inside of one of their aircraft again.

I was working in China at the time, and even my Chinese colleagues thought China Eastern was bad (and that I was brave for flying with them).

aren't companies required to provide some security reassurance when joining an airline alliance?:confused:

Xiaotung Jan 12, 2010 3:50 pm

Looks like SkyTeam is really getting back at Star and CO. Not very good news for me personally though.

JC25 Jan 13, 2010 3:58 am

What is told about MU is exagerated. I flew a lot inside China on their planes, never have any problem (in F class). As I left ST for *A, this is not a good news, especially if FM moves also to ST. On one part I understand ST strategy about Chinese market, on the other , I still see that there is no ***** company in eastern Asia in ST and this is a pity. About international flights, I took one time MU from PVG to CDG in business, looks like a very average cy no less no more, nothing realy to complain, nothing exiting too.

wavyfly Jan 13, 2010 4:25 am

Bad news for me. So I have only one Air China flight between SHA and CAN now.

really bad....

sniles Jan 13, 2010 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by JC25 (Post 13171249)
What is told about MU is exagerated.

Totally agree. I fly MU probably 10-15 times a year (domestic) and have never had any major issues with them. Personally i like their FF program, i can always get award seats whenever i want.
CA on the other hand has given me the most delays, but I continue to fly them (and FM - old planes) to keep my status within *A.

PMMMDL Jan 14, 2010 6:43 pm

I found MU to be the worst of mainland Chinese carriers.

Poor customer service combined with lots of delays and cancellations.

(Don't even ask for wine in F on domestic Chinese routes, but that goes for all of the airlines there).

toyotaboy95 Jan 14, 2010 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by PMMMDL (Post 13183346)
I found MU to be the worst of mainland Chinese carriers.

All of the Mainland airlines are like that. I'm still following up a complaint with CA from August.:td:

N830MH Jan 14, 2010 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by PMMMDL (Post 13183346)
I found MU to be the worst of mainland Chinese carriers.

Poor customer service combined with lots of delays and cancellations.

(Don't even ask for wine in F on domestic Chinese routes, but that goes for all of the airlines there).

I think MU should have to be more improvement the on-time performance. It should have to take the advantage of MU need to get better service. It need to fixed the congestions control in PEK/PVG and others destinations in China. I can't personally why MU are not good service and it was very poorly on-time performance. It should have to get better for those days. Need to have more understandable to get more flexibility the schedules.

However, MU need to have be best guaranteed to get better on-time performance. The passengers should have to be there at the gate on-time and must to be there at airport is 2.5 hours in advance. Help the passengers need to get speedy check-in at the ticket counter, baggage drop, first class lines. It will have to be reductions the security concerns in China. If you considering to get better passengers arrangement. MU will have try more console up to help the passengers to get better on-time performance and not to be late the time.

dgwright99 Jan 14, 2010 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by sebastravel (Post 13164790)
The day MU gets in any alliance would be a DARK day for Frequent flyers anywhere in the world.

MU J and F on the TPAC routes are very competitive products, often at a great price.

MU domestic has never been a particularly good experience for me - but then neither has any other PRC domestic carrier.

toyotaboy95 Jan 15, 2010 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 13184887)
It need to fixed the congestions control in PEK/PVG and others destinations in China. I can't personally why MU are not good service and it was very poorly on-time performance.

Blame the military. No airline dares to challenge the PRC govt. fearing they'll revoke their licences.:D I think that also explains why SZX flights are usually delayed while HKG is ontime.


Originally Posted by dgwright99 (Post 13184958)
MU J and F on the TPAC routes are very competitive products, often at a great price.

MU domestic has never been a particularly good experience for me - but then neither has any other PRC domestic carrier.

Yes MU is a very very cheap solution ex-HKG too (Y) and probably elsewhere if you can get it via a travel agent. It's usually half of competitors.


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