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crankyusi Nov 24, 2004 9:08 pm

AA too?
 
In another forum (Global Alliances, Skyteam), there was mentioning of SQ and AA?



....... Actually, SQ and AA now have new codeshares. It started very recently. The information appears on the Changi Airport flight arrivals web page at www.changiairport.com.sg. It is interesting, though, it only shows the codeshares as one way.

The flights are listed as:

AA8398 New York-JFK - sin

AA8397 lax - sin

AA8399 San Francisco - sin

If you check the Changi Airport flight arrivals web page, you will note the corresponding SQ flight numbers

Kiwi Flyer Nov 25, 2004 11:18 am


Originally Posted by jiml1126
SQ expands codeshare with LH to Spain from 01DEC: 77 weekly connections between frankfurt and Barcelona, Bilbao, Madrid, Malaga

Thanks. Updated the OP.

driftingaway Nov 25, 2004 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by crankyusi
....... Actually, SQ and AA now have new codeshares. It started very recently. The information appears on the Changi Airport flight arrivals web page at www.changiairport.com.sg. It is interesting, though, it only shows the codeshares as one way.

The flights are listed as:
AA8398 New York-JFK - sin
AA8397 lax - sin
AA8399 San Francisco - sin

If you check the Changi Airport flight arrivals web page, you will note the corresponding SQ flight numbers

Im pretty sure this is a mistake. Theres no mention of this anywhere else but the changi website. SQ or AA sites don't mention it, and its not mentioned anywhere at JFK. Strangely enough, it has been on the changi site for a few weeks already.

jimyvr Nov 28, 2004 12:07 pm

AA/SQ codeshare is not on any reservation systems either.

Savage25 Mar 5, 2005 3:24 am


Originally Posted by tcswede
The longhaul ones such as SIN - FRA on LH / SIN - AKL on NZ and LHR - YYZ on AC.
These are genuine codeshares which can be booked anytime.

Can they be booked anytime?

I booked SQ1027 YYZ-LHR (operated by AC) as part of a *A RTW today. According to the SQ BKK CTO agent who did the booking, there was a traffic restriction on this route - "international connecting or stopover traffic on SQ only". She was able to book it with a 3 day stopover followed by SQ319 LHR-SIN.

I originally wanted this routing, which according to the SQ system was apparently not allowed with a booking on the codeshare:

YYZ-LHR SQ1027
LHR-MAN on BD
MAN-ZRH-SIN on SQ345

The agent looked at the rule and volunteered that she could try removing the BD sector and leaving LHR-MAN as a surface sector so that the next sector could be an international sector on SQ (nice try, I hadn't thought of that ^), but the system would not allow her to ticket under those conditions. Both the following routings were not allowed.

YYZ-LHR SQ1027
ARNK
MAN-SIN on SQ327 or MAN-ZRH-SIN on SQ345

MAN Flyer Mar 6, 2005 1:50 am


Originally Posted by Savage25
Both the following routings were not allowed.

YYZ-LHR SQ1027
ARNK
MAN-SIN on SQ327 or MAN-ZRH-SIN on SQ345

Why were SQ327 + SQ345 not allowed ?

Savage25 Mar 6, 2005 5:47 am


Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
Why were SQ327 + SQ345 not allowed ?

I meant the agent couldn't book me on SQ1027 YYZ-LHR if it wasn't followed by a LHR-SIN segment.

ie. if I wanted SQ327 or SQ345, I had to book the YYZ-LHR segment on the AC flight number instead of the SQ codeshare bumber.

jimyvr Mar 8, 2005 3:56 pm

FRA-BIO: SQ2112
BIO-FRA: SQ2115/2117

FRA-BCN: SQ2108
BCN-FRA: SQ2109/2111

FRA-AGP: SQ2110
AGP-FRA: SQ2113

MAD-FRA: SQ2101/2103
FRA-MAD: SQ2104

SIN-CNX: SQ5042/5046
CNX-SIN: SQ5041/5045

SIN-REP-DAD-SIN: SQ5024

SIN-KBV*: SQ5032/5036
KBV-SIN*: SQ5031/5035

SIN-HKT-KBV-SIN*: SQ5064

SIN-MDC: SQ5274
MDC-SIN: SQ5273

SIN-MES: SQ5232/5238
MES-SIN: SQ5233/5237

SIN-PDG: SQ5266 (resume May)
PDG-SIN: SQ5265 (resume May)

SIN-PNH: SQ5004/5008
PNH-SIN: SQ5003/5007

SIN-REP-PNH-SIN: SQ5022

SIN-HKT: SQ5052/5054/5056/5058
HKT-SIN: SQ5051/5053/5057

SIN-TRV: SQ5398
TRV-SIN: SQ5397

SIN-RGN: SQ5016/5018
RGN-SIN: SQ5015/5017

SIN-KCH: SQ5078
KCH-SIN: SQ5077

*Suspended

Kiwi Flyer May 5, 2005 12:48 pm

NZ codeshares AKL-SYD vv and AKL-ROT added. Sorry dont have flight numbers.

paffendorf May 5, 2005 3:52 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
NZ codeshares AKL-SYD vv and AKL-ROT added. Sorry dont have flight numbers.


SQ339/340 now also available under NZ code. ;)

jimyvr May 6, 2005 1:27 pm

SYD-AKL: SQ6836/6838
AKL-SYD: SQ6837/6839

AKL-ROT: SQ6833/6831
ROT-AKL: SQ6834/6830


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
NZ codeshares AKL-SYD vv and AKL-ROT added. Sorry dont have flight numbers.


Hooked-on-miles May 6, 2005 3:45 pm

SQ and MH codeshare
 
SQ is codesharing with MH on SIN-PEN flights.

SIN - PEN: SQ5652 and SQ5658
PEN - SIN: SQ5653 and SQ5659

I took SQ5653 in April and am still waiting for the miles to show up in my KF account after 6 weeks.

ACflyerDE May 30, 2005 9:30 am


Originally Posted by CGK
From "Membership Guide" page 28 footnote 6:

To earn sector count and mileage credits for PPS Club when travelling First or Business Class on flights operated by code-share partner airlines - Air Canada, Air New Zealand and Lufthansa - under our code-share arrangement, your flight reservation must be made through Singapore Airlines. A ticket issued for such travel will show the designated Singapore Airlines flight number.

Sorry for this very basic question regarding SQ code-shares:

Can I still earn PPS segments & miles if I book SQ 25 FRA-SIN as LH 9762? LH appears not to have a tight yield management as SQ so getting a seat is easier this way.

Kiwi Flyer May 30, 2005 1:28 pm

No. It needs to have SQ flight number. A shame for me too, as otherwise I'd pick up credits for some trans-tasman trips too.

ACflyerDE May 31, 2005 12:03 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
No. It needs to have SQ flight number. A shame for me too, as otherwise I'd pick up credits for some trans-tasman trips too.

Thanks a lot, Kiwi Flyer ! I really wonder why it makes a difference to them, because ultimately SQ operates the flight and not LH.

ACflyerDE Jun 1, 2005 3:17 pm

Kiwi Flyer (or someone else of these very knowledgeable SQ FT members), could you please confirm that my understanding correct:

People aiming for LH HON & SQ PPS, they would get on the route FRA - SIN

SQ 25 booked as SQ 25: PPS credits & no HON credits

SQ 25 booked as LH 9762: No PPS credits & no HON credits

LH 778 booked as LH 778: HON credits & no PPS credits

LH 778 booked as SQ 2007: HON credits & PPS credits

TerryK Jun 1, 2005 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by ACflyerDE
Thanks a lot, Kiwi Flyer ! I really wonder why it makes a difference to them, because ultimately SQ operates the flight and not LH.

One word: revenue. LH gets a cut if you book with LH code. You are paying LH for the ticket, LH pays SQ to transport you, LH takes a cut. Yes, SQ operates the flight, but they are getting less revenue than if you book with SQ code.

ACflyerDE Jun 2, 2005 10:15 am


Originally Posted by TerryK
One word: revenue. LH gets a cut if you book with LH code. You are paying LH for the ticket, LH pays SQ to transport you, LH takes a cut. Yes, SQ operates the flight, but they are getting less revenue than if you book with SQ code.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

In my case SQ 25 shows C4 J0 D0 (and I need D for my RTW) but LH 9762 shows C4 D4 Z4 - I would assume that SQ gets more revenue if they release a D seat for me rather getting a share of what LH sells of the flight...

Why do they allow LH to sell discounted biz seats when they are not willing to do so themselves?

Flyguy1971 Jun 2, 2005 8:54 pm

Sq/lh Sin-fra-beg
 
I will fly to Belgrade in July. My ticket bears LH flight nos. but the longhaul is operated by SQ (rather fly SQ than LH if I can avoid it) before it connects on to Yugoslav Airlines to Belgrade (BEG). Will I get SQ tier miles for flying on an SQ jet even though it is an LH flight no.? Secondly, is Yugoslav a *A member? It bears an LH flight no.

Thanks.

Kiwi Flyer Jun 2, 2005 9:05 pm

No and no.

ACflyerDE Jul 5, 2005 2:46 am

Some minor changes on Air Canada:

old:
SFO-YVR 800mi SQ1046 (AC546)
YVR-SFO 800mi SQ1037 (AC537)

new:
SFO-YVR 800mi SQ1046 (AC563)
YVR-SFO 800mi SQ1037 (AC564)

SQ1046 is for connections from SQ16 SIN-ICN-SFO

SQ1037 is for connections to SQ1 SFO-HKG-SIN

SQFAN Sep 25, 2005 7:58 am

Singapore Airlines Signs Codeshare Agreement With Asiana Airlines
 
Full details linked here

OZ OPERATING SQ MARKETING FLIGHT

FLT NO FLT NO *DAYS OF OPERATION FROM TO AIRCRAFT
OZ 752 SQ 5752 23567 SINGAPORE SEOUL A330
OZ 751 SQ 5751 23567 SEOUL SINGAPORE A330

SQ OPERATING OZ MARKETING FLIGHT

FLT NO FLT NO *DAYS OF OPERATION FROM TO AIRCRAFT
SQ 882 OZ 6782 1234567 SINGAPORE SEOUL B744
SQ 883 OZ 6781 1234567 SEOUL SINGAPORE B744
SQ 886 OZ 6784 12..567 SINGAPORE SEOUL B777-200
SQ 887 OZ 6783 12..567 SEOUL SINGAPORE B777-200
SQ 16 OZ 6788 1234567 SINGAPORE SEOUL B777-200ER
SQ 15 OZ 6787 1234567 SEOUL SINGAPORE B777-200ER
SQ 18
OZ 6786 1..4.6. SINGAPORE SEOUL B777-200ER
SQ 17 OZ 6785 .2..5.7 SEOUL SINGAPORE B777-200ER

ch0o0ps Sep 30, 2005 2:51 am

Excel spreedsheet with all codeshare
 
Hi,
Wasn’t there someone sharing a excel spreadsheet with all the code share info to make easy planning of MR’s?

jjpb3 Sep 30, 2005 4:03 am


Originally Posted by ch0o0ps
Hi,
Wasn’t there someone sharing a excel spreadsheet with all the code share info to make easy planning of MR’s?

See the FAQ (it's in the PPS section, and flamboyant 1 also separately posted it in the discussions following the FAQ).

qasr Nov 29, 2005 10:12 am

I assume that one cannot earn PPS sectors on NZ domestic codeshares, e.g. AKL-ZQN, etc. ? I was trying to book a RTW using the SQ codeshares, but there was no D bucket--turns out there is no business class anymore on domestic NZ routes... If one buys a D ticket, but books into Y there would be no chance of getting PPS sectors, right? :)

qasr Nov 29, 2005 10:23 am


Originally Posted by qasr
I assume that one cannot earn PPS sectors on NZ domestic codeshares, e.g. AKL-ZQN, etc. ? I was trying to book a RTW using the SQ codeshares, but there was no D bucket--turns out there is no business class anymore on domestic NZ routes... If one buys a D ticket, but books into Y there would be no chance of getting PPS sectors, right? :)

Ah, found my answer. :)

goback Feb 16, 2007 3:46 am

A few more SQ codeshares on VS
 
Kiwiflyer

I found these while plugging away at EF.

These ones might be handy for those on ZRWESC fares chasing PPS sectors.
SFO provides a connection to the 77W product.

LHR-LAX SQ2507 (VS7)
LHR-LAX SQ2523 (VS23)
LAX-LHR SQ2508 (VS8)
LAX-LHR SQ2524 (VS24)
LHR-SFO SQ2519 (VS19)
LHR-SFO SQ2520 (VS20)

I am not sure how you would go double-dipping with mileage on a ZRWESC fare when it came to the VS sectors. Could be very complex.

Kiwi Flyer Feb 16, 2007 11:32 am

Thanks I'll update the OP.


Originally Posted by goback (Post 7234808)
I am not sure how you would go double-dipping with mileage on a ZRWESC fare when it came to the VS sectors. Could be very complex.

Easy - just credit the VS sectors to VS, BD, NZ and don't give your PPS #. Then afterwards just ask SQ for the PPS credit.

zvezda Apr 19, 2007 4:50 pm

What about the new US codeshares?

https://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_...se/NE_1107.jsp

Kiwi Flyer Apr 19, 2007 5:45 pm

With the upcoming change to PPS codeshares are now less relevant. Is it still worth maintaining this list?

ACflyerDE Apr 19, 2007 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 7609755)
With the upcoming change to PPS codeshares are now less relevant. Is it still worth maintaining this list?

That means SQ codeshare flights do not generate any PPS value under the new rules?

LHSEN Feb 14, 2010 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by ACflyerDE (Post 7610605)
That means SQ codeshare flights do not generate any PPS value under the new rules?

Still not finding a sure answer from my search.

US coded flight operated by SQ, does this earn any PPS value?

Diamond Seats Feb 14, 2010 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by LHSEN (Post 13389907)
Still not finding a sure answer from my search.

US coded flight operated by SQ, does this earn any PPS value?

If you look up the website, you will find this:


Will PPS Value be credited for codeshare flights?
When you travel on a codeshare flight (in First or Business Class), you will accrue PPS Value only if the codeshare flight is operated by Singapore Airlines or SilkAir (that is, the flight is on a Singapore Airlines or SilkAir aircraft) and has a KrisFlyer partner airline’s flight number.

LHSEN Feb 16, 2010 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by Diamond Seats (Post 13390733)
If you look up the website, you will find this:

Thanks ... Checked my account - can confirmed I got the PPS value.

aster Feb 16, 2010 9:38 pm

SQ has a codeshare agreement with LO, but it appears that you can only book these tickets/routes online on the LO site. You cannot even select WAW as an airport on the SQ website.

Is this just being slack on SQ's part? :)

Even at Expedia you can purchase such a ticket, where it lists "Singapore Airlines 346 / Singapore Airlines 2312 (2312 operated by LOT-Polish Airlines)."

Seems strange for SQ to have such codeshare flights... while at the same time their website is the only place... NOT to sell them. I'm sure LO isn't complaining though, and neither is LH... ;)

TravelGuy1965 Oct 19, 2010 7:08 pm

Why do code share flights exist in SQ?
 
Hi,

I'm a newbe on Star Alliance (for international travel) and this week was my first flight on Singapore with a connecting fight on code share SQ5618. I'm *G now with most of my background/experiences with OW.

What I learned was the SQ code share:
- doesn't earn miles
- doesn't allow lounge access (thanks for the feedback on the other thread)
- doesn't allow check-in with SQ. It must be done with Malaysia.

Admittedly I am more a OW flier with AA Plat and normally have flown Cathay to Asia but I now dislike their new economy seats so much that it drove me to look for alternatives. Cathay Code shares with Malaysia does allow each of the 3 items above.

If SQ doesn't allow any of these 3 items on a code share does anyone know why they have them at all? And why someone would conciously book one?

And now Malaysia Airlines is telling me they can't enter my Delta # because its an SQ flight. Seems they really screw people with this scheme of code share with no benefits and cutting of the ability to ear miles with the other carrier's alliance.

If anything it seems like I loose miles that I could have received with Malaysia by selecting a code share and don't see any advantage in return.

Thanks


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