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award availability in premium classes on SQ
As already read in many posts, it`s nearly impossible to find premium class seats on SQ on longhaul now.
But now it`s the same even on short and midhaul flights. Try to find 2 seats to MLE, and checked all dates from 10 Sep - 15 Dec not found any date with availability ( in any class ). |
This is most frustrating!:mad:
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Why do you continue to patronize this airline? They are a shell of their former self service wise and they continue to treat the customer as if we should be grateful they exist. Many airlines in the region are just as good, if not better than SQ and don't believe their product is so over the top you must give your wife's kidney plus 20,000,000 miles to fly on an award ticket. A class above, indeed....
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Originally Posted by bertheike
(Post 14558889)
Try to find 2 seats to MLE, and checked all dates from 10 Sep - 15 Dec
not found any date with availability ( in any class ). For the dates I tried : There were always 2 seats available in economy in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 1 seat available in business in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 2 seats available in business in Standard/Full There were seats available for 1 passenger in First in Saver/Standard/Full There were always seats available for 2 passengers in First in Standard/Full The Ops statement that there is no availability in any class is incorrect. Seats are readily available for 2 passengers in premium cabins when booked into the Standard/Full buckets. It would appear that the airline are only offering 1 seat at Saver awards in premium cabins. The Op has the option of booking 1 Saver and 1 Standard award on numerous dates . Or booking 1 Saver award and waiting for a 2nd saver award seat to released on the flight. |
Originally Posted by ButcherBird
(Post 14561428)
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The Ops statement that there is no availability in any class is incorrect. Seats are readily available for 2 passengers in premium cabins when booked into the Standard/Full buckets. It would appear that the airline are only offering 1 seat at Saver awards in premium cabins. The Op has the option of booking 1 Saver and 1 Standard award on numerous dates…. Or booking 1 Saver award and waiting for a 2nd saver award seat to released on the flight. Having said that, SQ is just reserving most of the award seats for its own passengers. SIN-MLE is a lucrative leisure destination and SQ is just safeguarding its own. Looking at other award destinations, I can still find space on many of its premium classes! eg BKK, HKG, ICN. |
First Class to MLE?
Originally Posted by ButcherBird
(Post 14561428)
Punching a series of dates in at random SIN-MLE
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For the dates I tried : There were always 2 seats available in economy in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 1 seat available in business in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 2 seats available in business in Standard/Full There were seats available for 1 passenger in First in Saver/Standard/Full There were always seats available for 2 passengers in First in Standard/Full |
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
(Post 14563168)
Looking at other award destinations, I can still find space on many of its premium classes! eg BKK, HKG, ICN.
But for HKG sometimes Business Class only on 772 and same for ICN on 333. |
According to a WSJ article, SQ is one of the best in terms of redemption availabilities. SQ ranked 6th out of 21 airlines in the study.
Among carriers outside the U.S., Air Canada, Deutsche Lufthansa AG and Singapore Airlines were among the most generous. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...159208996.html Chart: http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...bDate=20080826 |
I've also noticed a pull back on availability of seats intra-Asia for non-KF miles.
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Well, as already said, Iam not KF, Iam BD, and for to book with DC, there has to be availability in AMADEUS in "I" or "O" class !
Originally Posted by ButcherBird
(Post 14561428)
Punching a series of dates in at random SIN-MLE
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For the dates I tried : There were always 2 seats available in economy in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 1 seat available in business in Saver/Standard/Full There was always 2 seats available in business in Standard/Full There were seats available for 1 passenger in First in Saver/Standard/Full There were always seats available for 2 passengers in First in Standard/Full The Ops statement that there is no availability in any class is incorrect. Seats are readily available for 2 passengers in premium cabins when booked into the Standard/Full buckets. It would appear that the airline are only offering 1 seat at Saver awards in premium cabins. The Op has the option of booking 1 Saver and 1 Standard award on numerous dates . Or booking 1 Saver award and waiting for a 2nd saver award seat to released on the flight. |
Originally Posted by TerryK
(Post 14563678)
According to a WSJ article, SQ is one of the best in terms of redemption availabilities. SQ ranked 6th out of 21 airlines in the study.
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Originally Posted by TerryK
(Post 14563678)
According to a WSJ article, SQ is one of the best in terms of redemption availabilities. SQ ranked 6th out of 21 airlines in the study.
Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...159208996.html Chart: http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...bDate=20080826 And it would have actually made for a really decent study and article if they published what they actually tried to measure. What constitutes a short and what a long flight, routing complexity, alliances ... all that would have been great. And as always when newspapers write they stuff in the 35 minutes they have for it: things don't add up. How could the award redemption of US, SK, UA, CO be all that different? They are in the same club. Unlike UA, US doesn't even impose StarNet blocking, so the number of seats a US pax is offered on an NZ route is exactly the same an LH or SQ passenger is offered. And it is always equal or better to what a UA victim is offered ... so where does the verdict come from??? Burning Dividend Miles on short domestic coach trips? Even if that were true WGASA? Why can't they limit their research to things that matter: redemption on premium longhaul routes on the premier carriers of the alliance :p ? |
Originally Posted by weero
(Post 14569416)
....How could the award redemption of US, SK, UA, CO be all that different? They are in the same club.
Unlike UA, US doesn't even impose StarNet blocking, so the number of seats a US pax is offered on an NZ route is exactly the same an LH or SQ passenger is offered. And it is always equal or better to what a UA victim is offered ... so where does the verdict come from??? Burning Dividend Miles on short domestic coach trips? Even if that were true WGASA?... IdeaWorks conducted the study using host airlines miles, no partner redemption was studied. They tried to book 3-6 months ahead, no last minute bookings.@:-) Hence, the US number represents using US miles to redeem on US 3-6 months ahead; SQ number represents using SQ miles to redeem on SQ 3-6 months ahead. They may not fit what you use your miles for, but they are comparable platforms. Bear in mind that articles were written for general public consumptions. FT represents a tiny fraction of the flying public; average fliers don't know much about alliance partners; most earn/redeem on host airlines.;) I guess this study is not relevant to OP either, but it wasn't clear from post #1 that he/she was using partner miles. |
Originally Posted by TerryK
(Post 14570004)
..IdeaWorks conducted the study using host airlines miles, no partner redemption was studied. They tried to book 3-6 months ahead, no last minute bookings.@:-) Hence, the US number represents using US miles to redeem on US 3-6 months ahead; SQ number represents using SQ miles to redeem on SQ 3-6 months ahead. They may not fit what you use your miles for, but they are comparable platforms.
If they probed standard awards on longhaul Biz, they probably would have gotten a 0% success rate on SQ. ..Bear in mind that articles were written for general public consumptions. FT represents a tiny fraction of the flying public; average fliers don't know much about alliance partners; most earn/redeem on host airlines.;) |
Originally Posted by weero
(Post 14572539)
Got it ... but it still makes for no good comparison as SQ has exclusively intl routes, US mostly domestic. SQ has many different levels of award redemption for the same service. It is really measuring apples with oranges.
If they probed standard awards on longhaul Biz, they probably would have gotten a 0% success rate on SQ. I know that airline managers like to think of their customers as idiots. But we should not follow that example. The is no "general public" unless you mean a US based customer who redeems on domestic flights. If them compare, them should compare the same things ! Award availability usable for all alliance partners ! O/I/X class ! The awards them sell for double miles " only to them own ffp members " are not compareable ! Them come from revenue booking classes and can only be booked from them own members ! |
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