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Old Oct 31, 2014, 6:05 am
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I'm going to update this first post as more info flows in to create a 'master list' of all credit cards that offer a decent way of accruing miles - so please help out!

If you know of and/or use any other cards (or the ones already mentioned), please share your thoughts.

***ALL VALUES BELOW IN SINGAPORE DOLLARS (SGD)***
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In no particular order (apart from personal preference in terms of good-mileage opportunities):
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1. UOB PRVI Miles VISA, MasterCard, AMEX

VISA:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...iles_visa.html
MasterCard:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard.html
Amex:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...amex_card.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...ard/microsite/



Mileage accrual:
The earn rate will be 1.4 miles for every $1 spent in multiples of S$10 (every multiple of S$5 gives 6 to 7 miles due to 3.5 UNI$ rounding off, every S$10 gives 14 miles), and 2.4 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS (every $5 gives 12 miles).

Requirements: min. income $80,000 (not strict).
Cost: First year free, then S$256.80 for main, first two supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver for Amex card if you charge $50,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name/FIN Number/NRIC together for all UOB cards which earn UNI$.

Pros: Best mileage accrual rates for overseas spend only. 20,000 bonus miles and annual fee waiver with spend of $50,000 per year (both only for Amex card). $45 1-way airport transfer voucher for $1,000 overseas spend in a given quarter (Amex only).
Cons: AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

2. UOB Preferred Platinum Visa


http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards..._platinum.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...visa_card.html


Mileage accrual: Earn 4 miles for every $1 spent using ONLY MOBILE CONTACTLESS every $5 gives 10 UNI$ which equal 20 miles). Same incredible mileage-earning ratio for internet shopping with certain restrictions (travel-related, utilities, etc.). Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 for regular, signature-based payments AND ORPHAN SPEND DUE TO $5 ROUNDING OR EXCEEDING THE BONUS U$2000 SPEND (every $5 gives 1 UNI$ which equal 2 miles).

Earning 4 miles/$ is limited to the first S$1110 spent during the per calendar month (via Mobile Contactless). 2,000UNI$ refers to the extra 9UNI$ and does not include the normal 1UNI$.(Stop when you notice you earn 3UNI$ (1 + bonus 2) for the last S$5 transaction. ($1110/5)x9=1998UNI$, hence the last S$5 transaction will earn 2 bonus UNI$. The total bonus UNI$ awarded to you from qualifying spend on Selected Online Transactions and Mobile Contactless Transactions is capped at UNI$2,000 for each calendar month. THE CAP IS ON THE 9 UNI$ BONUS NOT 10UNI$ TOTAL YOU GET WITH BASE OF U$1 PER $ SPEND

Keep in mind that some merchants offer different, non-mileage accruing awards with UOB cards which are called SMART$. Some popular merchants include Cold Storage, Guardian and Giant Supermarket, ToastBox and Starbucks. A full list of merchants where Mobile contactless transactions will NOT earn miles can be found here:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...smartclub.html

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($60,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main and $96.30 for supplementary. Annual fee waived off easily.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion, in blocks of 5000 UNI$=10,000 miles. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name for all UOB cards.

Pros: Incredible mileage accrual rates for Paywave transactions (not all merchants - some give SMART$ instead which are different rewards!) as well as internet transactions (some restrictions apply).
Cons: Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

3. Citi PremierMiles MasterCard

https://www.citibank.com.sg/credit-cards/travel/premiermiles-card/?ecid=PSGONSGCCAENPM

Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent. Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS. 10,000 bonus miles for each annual membership renewal.

Requirements: min. income $50,000 for VISA. Principal cardholder must be at least 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for VISA main, supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver available in exchange for forfeiting the 10,000renewal bonus.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent all-rounder, good for overseas spend. Points never expire. Bonus miles for annual card renewal. 11 frequent flyer programs & 3 hotel programs to choose from, including EVA Air - only 25,000 miles for 1 way Business Class within Asia!!
Cons: No miles awarded for EZ-Link & Transitlink transactions. Miles awarded per S$1. Cents not included. 1.2 miles/S$1. Transfer in blocks of 10,000 miles.

4. DBS Altitude VISA/AMEX

http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx
http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 3 DBS points which equal 6 miles). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $180 for main and $90 for supplementary. Annual fee waiver if you charge $25,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: S$26.75 per transfer, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

Pros: Points never expire. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 3, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1.67. Each DBS point = 2 miles). Earn 3 miles per S$1 spent on all online Flight and Hotel transactions (capped at S$5,000 per month). 10,000 miles renewal bonus if you have to pay card renewal fees.
Cons: All local spend now down to 1.2 miles/$ (since Dec 1, 2013). AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Transfer in blocks of 5000 DBS points = 10,000 miles (on the plus side points don't expire). Per transfer of S$26.75, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

5. Maybank Horizon Platinum Visa

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/persona...visa-card.aspx



Earn 3.2 air miles (8X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on dining, petrol, taxi fares and hotel bookings at Agoda.com/horizon
Earn 2 air miles (5X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on air tickets, travel packages and foreign currency transactions, with a minimal S$300 in a calendar month

Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 spent elsewhere (1 mile for every $2.50 spent).

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($80,000 for foreigners).
Cost: $150 for main, supplementary always free. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: In blocks of 5,000 points to 2000 Asia Miles or KrisFlyer. S$26.75 fee applies.

Pros: Great for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Complimentary access to selected VIP airport lounges when you charge a minimum of S$400 in a single transaction on air tickets or travel packages to your Card 3 months prior to the date of travel.
Cons: Great ONLY for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Points are valid for 1 year only, expire either on 30 June or 31 December of the same year if not Rewards Infinite member.

6. Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend AMEX

https://www.americanexpress.com/sg/s...nd-credit-card



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 spent on all your eligible purchases with your Card

Earn 2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 equivalent in foreign currency spent overseas on eligible purchases during June and December

Requirements: min. income $50,000 ($60,000 for foreigners). Principal cardholder must be over 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, otherwise $256.80 for main, 2 supplementary cards always free (more available at $80.25 each). Annual fee cannot be waived unless you spend alot.
Miles conversion fee: None - your KrisFlyer miles are transferred to your account directly with no conversion fees or charges.

Pros: None, except for welcome offers (4 complimentary airport lounge access vouchers, one complimentary night with Millennium Hotels and Resorts).

Cons: Simply nothing special - there are better cards available for all types of purchases, including flight tickets, even with all of the bonuses above applied. AMEX not always accepted by merchants.

7. Citibank Rewards Card

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CACRENCCHOCALM



Earn 10X Rewards (10 Rewards Points or 4 Miles for every S$1 spent) when you shop for clothes, bags and shoes or at departmental stores or online shopping websites, including SingTel & M1 online bill payment!

Pros: Transfer to 11 FFPs & 3 Hotel programs in blocks of 25,000 points=10,000 miles; S$25 fee.

Cons: Points awarded per S$1 spend. Cents not included. Cannot combined Thank You Points across cards.

8. DBS Woman's World MasterCard® Card

http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard-card



10X Rewards for Online Retail Purchases
T&C Here: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resource...s_card_tnc.pdf

Pros: Men also can get this card!! DBS points are combined in 1 cardholder's name. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 10, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1. Each DBS point = 2 miles).

Cons: DBS points are valid for 1 year based on card anniversary date. The additional 9X DBS Points for online retail spend in a calendar month will be awarded on the 16th of the next calendar month. If the above days are not working days, the Points will be awarded on the next working day. The additional 9X DBS Points are only applicable to the first S$2,000 online retail spend every calendar month.

9. OCBC Titanium Rewards Card

https://www.ocbc.com/personal-bankin...astercard.html

10x OCBC$ on your shopping Local & Overseas Shopping Transactions, Local & Overseas Department Store Transactions and Local & Overseas Online Transactions.
The remaining 9 OCBC$ will be posted to the Card Account by the end of the next calendar month

https://www.ocbc.com/assets/pdf/card...ons.pdf?rand=1
10,000 KrisFlyer miles requires OCBC$ 25000, For each conversion of OCBC$ to KrisFlyer miles a fee of S$25 will be charged

10. UOB Lady's Card
https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/card...ard/index.page

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Old May 23, 2019, 2:23 am
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This thread seems to have lost its life- like the gig here in SIN!

Have a reasonably large USD transaction coming up- $25-30k. What are the current recommendations? Will likely be online, but might have to do over the phone.
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Old May 23, 2019, 5:20 am
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Depends on what are your needs. Of the cards I have personally, it will be S$2k towards UOB Visa Signature (for 4mpd) and the rest towards SCB Visa Infinite (for 3mpd). But I've split up such transactions previously to meet my redemption needs, like some towards Citibank premier miles for BR redemption or towards UOB PRVI Amex to meet the annual spending of $50k to get the additional rewards.

Not sure if over the phone still counts as online spending. My spendings usually do not meet "online" requirements or under the 4mpd categories, so unsure if yours does.

Originally Posted by jagmeets
Have a reasonably large USD transaction coming up- $25-30k. What are the current recommendations? Will likely be online, but might have to do over the phone.
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Old May 23, 2019, 6:15 am
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Assuming (1) you can split and pay in smaller bits at around the same time and (2) is not in the exclusion categories of Citi Rewards, then:
- S$1K on Citi Rewards MC
- S$1K on Citi Rewards Visa
- S$2K on DBS WWMC
- S$2K on UOB PPV
- balance on BOC EMMC

Life can be as convoluted as you want it to be!
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Old May 23, 2019, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by carrotjuice
- S$2K on UOB PPV
I guess you mean UOB VS. The UOB PPV gives only 0.4mpd for foreign transaction (unless it's contactless in which case you'll get 4 mpd to a max of $1k SGD)
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Old May 24, 2019, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by jagmeets
Have a reasonably large USD transaction coming up- $25-30k. What are the current recommendations? Will likely be online, but might have to do over the phone.
Apart from the suggestions by @carrotjuice I suggest you take advantage of some of the sign up bonus promos being offered by Amex (Krisflyer Blue + Ascend), SCB Visa Infinite, Amex platinum charge (has a hefty AF of $1,712 but comes with several benefits that may be worth it for you. They've unofficial lowered their income requirement to SGD 150k p.a).
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Old May 24, 2019, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by lifeonthego_k
I guess you mean UOB VS. The UOB PPV gives only 0.4mpd for foreign transaction (unless it's contactless in which case you'll get 4 mpd to a max of $1k SGD)
Thanks for pointing this out. Actually I did mean UOB PPV but $1K (not $2K) as it also provides 4 mpd for online transactions, although with more exclusions than DBS WWMC.

But your comment on UOB VS is valid too!
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Old May 26, 2019, 11:50 pm
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Thanks folks!
The transaction can't be split, and I don't want to muck around with opening a new line of credit with BoC..so I guess i'll stick to StanC VI.
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Old Jan 24, 2020, 5:20 pm
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Greetings in 2020 everyone.

Where do we stand today with good deals for purchasing additional miles? Is the 10,000 miles bonus for paying a card's annual fee of S$192.60 considered decent value compared to other options of acquiring miles?
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Old Jan 24, 2020, 7:18 pm
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Happy CNY everyone. We're moving back to SG from HK soon and I am planning for my card strategy. I still hold the UOB Visa PPV since the last time we lived in Singapore (over 3 years ago -- I guess I am lucky that UOB haven't charged the annual fee?), but hold no other SG based cards. We are HSBC Premier and DBS Treasures customers if that makes any difference at all.

I read this article on Milelion, which focuses on maximising 4 miles / SGD earning opportunities: https://milelion.com/2020/01/08/the-...card-strategy/

Are people generally following this approach or does anyone have any alternative ideas? Keen to hear people's thoughts.
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Old Jan 25, 2020, 6:56 am
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It all depends on how far you're willing to complicate things when it comes to the number of cards in your wallet and remembering which one to use where.

To be honest I'm not much into maximising absolutely everything, so I wouldn't get a separate card to pay for fuel, a different one for public transport, yet another for cinema tix, etc.

From the cards listed on that site I think it's definitely worth getting the DBS Woman’s World MC as 4mpd for online spend (capped at $2k) is useful. The UOB contactless 4mpd - if still valid - would also be great for supermarket spend at Fairprice or Meidi-Ya (unfortunately it wouldn't apply to Cold Storage/Giant).

Apart from that a general spend card would be good, but here even 1.4mpd (such as from using the UOB PRVI) would probably have to suffice. You might also want to see what Treasures/Premier offers in terms of any special CCs.
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Old Jan 25, 2020, 7:38 am
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Yes. I got the women card for online. Got the UOB PPV for paywave. Plus OCBC titanium for local purchase. (But usually will use UOB for paywave unless exceed amounts for that month). Plus DBS attitude card for any other misc purchase (ie without paywave)
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Old Jan 25, 2020, 11:06 pm
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DBS Altitude (not attitude ). Citi Permiermiles, OCBC N90 or so are similar general spending / catch all type cards. YMMV.
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Old Jan 26, 2020, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by aster
It all depends on how far you're willing to complicate things when it comes to the number of cards in your wallet and remembering which one to use where.

To be honest I'm not much into maximising absolutely everything, so I wouldn't get a separate card to pay for fuel, a different one for public transport, yet another for cinema tix, etc.

From the cards listed on that site I think it's definitely worth getting the DBS Woman’s World MC as 4mpd for online spend (capped at $2k) is useful. The UOB contactless 4mpd - if still valid - would also be great for supermarket spend at Fairprice or Meidi-Ya (unfortunately it wouldn't apply to Cold Storage/Giant).

Apart from that a general spend card would be good, but here even 1.4mpd (such as from using the UOB PRVI) would probably have to suffice. You might also want to see what Treasures/Premier offers in terms of any special CCs.
Fair enough. I don't want to complicate things too much either (mostly so as not to confuse my wife), but am happy to have separate cards for overseas, online, dining, contactless on top of general spending. We typically hold 4-6 spending cards at any given time in HK, apart from any benefits only cards such as Amex Platinum.

What are people typically using as their general spending card? I used to hold the UOB PRVI Miles Mastercard when I was based in SG -- is that still a good idea?
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Old Jan 26, 2020, 3:42 am
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
am happy to have separate cards for overseas, online, dining, contactless on top of general spending.
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What are people typically using as their general spending card? I used to hold the UOB PRVI Miles Mastercard when I was based in SG -- is that still a good idea?
Back in the day I would hold a card for contactless payments (x4), online (x4) and regular spend (1.2-1.6 at the time). Those were better days though as the online card could also be used to top-up a prepaid Fevo MC... which in turn could be used anywhere. . I never needed a local card for foreign transactions and didn't bother with separate ones for dining or department stores either, as my other cards pretty much sufficed and still delivered 4x when dining.

For a general spend card consider the PRVI... but the AMEX one. Of course if you run into AMEX acceptance issues a lot then this might be annoying, but if you are able to rack up $50k spend in an entire year then they do throw in a 20k miles bonus. So the 1.4 ratio gets bumped up to 1.8.

For really small stuff like popping into 7-11 or Cheers consider using a DBS debit card. 3% cashback for contactless (capped at first $666 spend monthly - hence I mentioned "small stuff") is always better than nothing.
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Old Jan 26, 2020, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by aster
Back in the day I would hold a card for contactless payments (x4), online (x4) and regular spend (1.2-1.6 at the time). Those were better days though as the online card could also be used to top-up a prepaid Fevo MC... which in turn could be used anywhere. .
Yes, I remember experimenting with a few different MS options that were subsequently closed down. That being said, are there any MS opportunities in SG these days? Perhaps similar to what you can do with Alipay, Wechat Pay and PayMe in HK (i.e. top up wallet using a credit card and withdraw to your bank account).

Originally Posted by aster
I never needed a local card for foreign transactions and didn't bother with separate ones for dining or department stores either, as my other cards pretty much sufficed and still delivered 4x when dining.
A huge portion of my spend is in foreign countries and/or currencies -- the UOB Visa Signature seems like a good option for this purpose, despite the $2,000 per statement month cap.

Originally Posted by aster
For a general spend card consider the PRVI... but the AMEX one. Of course if you run into AMEX acceptance issues a lot then this might be annoying, but if you are able to rack up $50k spend in an entire year then they do throw in a 20k miles bonus. So the 1.4 ratio gets bumped up to 1.8.
Will definitely check out the PRVI Miles Amex - thank you for raising that! Can I use this card to pay for transit/MRT as well or is that limited to Visa/Mastercards?
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