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Old Feb 28, 2020, 5:51 am
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Fleet cabin atmospheres

Which planes in BA's fleet have the best cabin atmospheres? I occasionally get shortness of breath, not to any medical level, but have noticed that on 787/A350/A380 the air seems a lot better than on the 777. I was just wondering how other people think the various planes compare?

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Old Feb 28, 2020, 5:58 am
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Originally Posted by LimitingFactor
Which planes in BA's fleet have the best cabin atmospheres? I occasionally get shortness of breath, not to any medical level, but have noticed that on 787/A350/A380 the air seems a lot better than on the 777. I was just wondering how other people think the various planes compare?

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You've answered your own question
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 6:02 am
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Your issues are probably due to the cabin pressure being set at the equivalent of 6000ft in those aircraft whereas other aircraft have it closer to 8000ft.

The Points Guy did an article on this - it mentions the same three types you do as being the better ones.

https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/the-...the-air-today/
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Originally Posted by LimitingFactor
Which planes in BA's fleet have the best cabin atmospheres? I occasionally get shortness of breath, not to any medical level, but have noticed that on 787/A350/A380 the air seems a lot better than on the 777. I was just wondering how other people think the various planes compare?

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I would say 787>A350, A380>747>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>777

Avoid the 777 if you can!
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 9:59 am
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I would say 787>A350, A380>747>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>777

Avoid the 777 if you can!
Is the 777 worse than the 747 or the same?
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 10:29 am
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I find the 777 worse for noise rather than pressure, but it certainly is the dog of the fleet. Similarly the 787 is inferior to the A350. Boeing don’t make good planes any more.
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
Is the 777 worse than the 747 or the same?
a lot worse.
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Old Feb 28, 2020, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
a lot worse.
Agreed. And I also rate the 787 as slightly better than the A350, but with not much in it.
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Agreed. And I also rate the 787 as slightly better than the A350, but with not much in it.
Ouch!

Well maybe I am used to the 777, as I almost exclusively fly the 777-300ER on flights out of the large ones (3 times this month) and I really don't mind it anymore!
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Old Feb 29, 2020, 1:38 am
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I find A319 & A320 frames cause nasal/sinus issues with me. A321 frames seem to be not as bad.

I certainly noticed the difference after coming off an A380 and 77W. Definitely felt better after the A380 flight.
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Old Feb 29, 2020, 4:24 am
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I'm not sure if cabin temperature affects people's perceptions too as 747s are notably hot/stuffy and 777 are notably freezing.
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Old Feb 29, 2020, 5:08 am
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On the 744, it depends where you are. The consistency of temperature control through the aircraft on the older designs (744, also 777) is not as good as in newer designs. if you always favour a part of the aircraft which is consistently above the target temperature, you will think the aircraft is always warm. Commensurately if you favour a place that is always consistently below target temprature you'll think the aircraft is always cold.

Newer aircraft designs have better consistency of temperature as you move around the aircraft.
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Old Feb 29, 2020, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by email2markt
I'm not sure if cabin temperature affects people's perceptions too as 747s are notably hot/stuffy and 777 are notably freezing.
This! The 747 cabin environment can be pleasant provided it is kept cool. I experience unpleasant burning sinus issues when the temperature rises above 20°C. I find the A380 and 787s to be more gentle all round, irrespective of cabin temperature
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Old Feb 29, 2020, 8:39 am
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I'd actually go one step beyond this and go fleet + class atmosphere...

Not quite in the
issue, but actual air quality. One flight to SFO on the BA285 (Worldwide fleet, 747) I was in World Traveller. Cheerfully plonked in 52B (the poor mans 64A...). But with the iPads showing me as a GCH, one of the crew continued to treat me to rounds of impromptu G&Ts throughout the flight. 40 minutes out, he then insisted I move further forward given the queues at immigration at SFO. I quite enjoy the port-side views of San Francisco so kindly declined until he suggested First! 5A!

So 20 minutes-to-landing and he grabs my bag (!!) and marches me up from one end of the plane to the other (can't think what other travellers thought...). Tying back to the thread, one of the things that struck me at the tail end of an 11-hour haul to California is how much fresher and moist the cabin in First felt in contrast to all the other cabins (having walked through the entire plan!). Perhaps it's the effect of fewer people? Air fresheners? Flowers? (I wouldn't know if they've come back).

I'd still agree with the consensus that 787 > A380 > 747 > ... > 777, but also pose a question F > JWY.
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