BA245 [LHR-EZE] is “Night Stopped”
Aug 18, 2019, 2:17 pm
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BA245 [LHR-EZE] is “Night Stopped”
Im in the lounge and they’ve just made announcements that the BA245 is “night stopped” and passengers need to go to guest services to collect procedures for obtaining their luggage.
Is “night stopped” corporate speak for cancelled?
Is “night stopped” corporate speak for cancelled?
Aug 18, 2019, 2:23 pm
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For the benefit of the few remaining FTers who have so far failed to memorise the entire timetable, this is the late departing LHR-EZE (Buenos Aires) service, which normally departs at 22:25, and now down to depart tomorrow, Monday, at 21:25, presumably at BA9245.
But to answer your question, no, it's not cancelled in that the service will run, there will be two services tomorrow. A cancelled flight would result in just one service tomorrow. What it means is that they are probably short of either an aircraft or crew, and the timings on that service are fairly delicate, it 's easy to end up out of hours. So they just cannot run the flight today and it's being postponed to a point where crew and aircraft can be assured. Hopefully the earlier in the morning arrival will head off the not-so-good passport queues at EZE.
But to answer your question, no, it's not cancelled in that the service will run, there will be two services tomorrow. A cancelled flight would result in just one service tomorrow. What it means is that they are probably short of either an aircraft or crew, and the timings on that service are fairly delicate, it 's easy to end up out of hours. So they just cannot run the flight today and it's being postponed to a point where crew and aircraft can be assured. Hopefully the earlier in the morning arrival will head off the not-so-good passport queues at EZE.
Aug 18, 2019, 2:41 pm
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Sorry to hear that. They booking you a nice hotel for the night with some food vouchers?
Aug 18, 2019, 2:50 pm
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Thanks for fixing the title.
Still no mention of why they’re not flying tonight and all the sign boards at the airport and in the app seem to still think we’re, “on time.”
Still no mention of why they’re not flying tonight and all the sign boards at the airport and in the app seem to still think we’re, “on time.”
Aug 18, 2019, 2:57 pm
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Well, BA has advised you directly. Ask for hotel & meal vouchers and head to your hotel or, even better, hope that BA leaves it to you, allowing you to select where you stay and then submit for reimbursement.
Aug 18, 2019, 3:09 pm
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I'm surprised that BA didn't cause a diplomatic incident by choosing such an obvious flight number...
Aug 18, 2019, 10:47 pm
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I'd say it's purely coincidental, as the other South America flights are the 247/249/251. Don't think anyone thought of what you said before!!
Aug 19, 2019, 12:17 am
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Aug 19, 2019, 1:55 am
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This is fantastic. Well done!
Aug 19, 2019, 5:34 am
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In that specific case I think it was corporate / legal's policy in the event of litigation and if internal records got subpoenaed. "Night stopped" seems like a similar play though. Avoid a negative word like delayed, and say "Oh no no, just having a little night stop, that's all" instead.
That'd be my guess anyway.
Aug 19, 2019, 5:59 am
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At a previous employer (not an airline) it was common policy to avoid words with a direct negative connotation, and find alternate ways of expressing things. For example, on a durability test, instead of "Test Passed" vs "Test/Component/Thing Failed" you'd log it as "Test Ran to Completion" or "Test Ran to Removal." The latter being short for something like "Test ran to removal of Thing X from the test rig because it blew itself apart." It gets the point across without using a word like "failed" "exploded" or whatever.
In that specific case I think it was corporate / legal's policy in the event of litigation and if internal records got subpoenaed. "Night stopped" seems like a similar play though. Avoid a negative word like delayed, and say "Oh no no, just having a little night stop, that's all" instead.
That'd be my guess anyway.
In that specific case I think it was corporate / legal's policy in the event of litigation and if internal records got subpoenaed. "Night stopped" seems like a similar play though. Avoid a negative word like delayed, and say "Oh no no, just having a little night stop, that's all" instead.
That'd be my guess anyway.
Aug 19, 2019, 7:13 am
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"Night stopped" = "I Can't Believe It's Not Cancelled!"
When the Emirates 777 crashed in Dubai a couple of years back, the airline kept putting out press statements referring to a "landing incident." It takes balls to try and pass off a smoking hole in the ground as an "incident."
When the Emirates 777 crashed in Dubai a couple of years back, the airline kept putting out press statements referring to a "landing incident." It takes balls to try and pass off a smoking hole in the ground as an "incident."