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Mar 19, 2007 | 3:59 am

#16

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Originally Posted by Rudi

... I learned that revealing delicate insider sources (that proved to be reliable in the past) hurts and doesn't help in the long run...

Thanks for sharing your experiences with us!

However, this is what I observed from reading on this BB occasionally: Someone speculates why this or that has changed, another one heard the same from a reliable resource and after a while this speculation goes for granted.

Mar 19, 2007 | 4:12 am

#17

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Originally Posted by farefinder

Since January 1st 2003, LH and UA have been operating all flights between Europe and the USA under joint profit responsibility.

One of the reasons why I buy the "UA hates HON" story only partly. After all, UA awards their top tier with a 100% mileage bonus, even if travelling on LH metal TATL or on LH ticket stock. So a 50% bonus which doesn't even depent on COS anymore does not sound too much to ask for

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weero, finally managed to hack UA's IT systems...

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I'd never dare to interfere with the leader of LH or any of his daughters, as Phil might confirm. Should I ever succeed in planting code into the UA serves, it would not be malicious but solely 'beneficial'. For me and my MP # that is...

Mar 19, 2007 | 4:18 am

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Originally Posted by weero

So a 50% bonus which doesn't even depent on COS anymore does not sound too much to ask for

What are you talking about? FTL, SEN and HON always got and still get the respective executive bonus when flying UA. Even for flying US.

Mar 19, 2007 | 4:20 am

#19

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Originally Posted by weero

... on transatlantic flights since January 1st 2003. For UA (and other *A airlines) HON and SEN is threated as *G as a UGS, PPS, SPPS, etc. is on LH (and other *A airlines).

Mar 19, 2007 | 5:46 am

#20

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Originally Posted by flysurfer

What are you talking about? FTL, SEN and HON always got and still get the respective executive bonus when flying UA. Even for flying US.

This is what I am talking about - so why blame UA for not delivering HON miles anymore?
But I agree, my wording was a bit fuzzy.

Mar 19, 2007 | 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by farefinder

... on transatlantic flights since January 1st 2003.

This is what the 'TATL' stands for

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For UA (and other *A airlines) HON and SEN is threated as *G as a UGS, PPS, SPPS, etc. is on LH (and other *A airlines).

That will fuel 333's theory that UA hates LH elites - or threatens them upon this occasion - unnecessarily

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I am unfair and silly - all you say is sound and correct ^ .

Mar 19, 2007 | 7:57 am

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I didn’t realize that you are using TATL for transatlantic flights, but in any case you treat me well!

Mar 19, 2007 | 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by weero

So why blame UA for not delivering HON miles anymore?

Because LH managers reportedly told FTers that UA didn't want to pay for HON Circle miles.

Mar 19, 2007 | 7:35 pm

#24

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Originally Posted by flysurfer

Because LH managers reportedly told FTers that UA didn't want to pay for HON Circle miles.

I too am aware of the allegation .. but if that was true (not the telling of course, the concept), why then would SENs and HONs still get the elite boni?

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Originally Posted by farefinder

I didn’t realize that you are using TATL for transatlantic flights, but in any case you treat me well!

The acronym was introduced by TFM himself AFAIK, so for once I am not to blame. And yes, I try to threaten everyone in a noble & nice manner

Mar 19, 2007 | 7:55 pm

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Originally Posted by weero

I too am aware of the allegation .. but if that was true (not the telling of course, the concept), why then would SENs and HONs still get the elite boni?

Because HON status miles are more expensive than normal miles?

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Originally Posted by weero

The acronym was introduced by TFM himself AFAIK, so for once I am not to blame.

Nah, I just copied it from other posts here in FT. It's a standard term.