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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:51 am
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OT:YYZ 'second most inefficient airport' in NA

Torstars business roundup on Page 2 has a story on how YYZ is the second most inefficient airport in North America, right after Miami. no details on exactly what criteria was used.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1149545411508

Toronto airport branded near worst in efficiency
Jun. 6, 2006. 01:00 AM


Toronto's Pearson International Airport is one of the least efficient airports in the world, according to a new study. [etc]

edited to add link to report info:
http://www.atrsworld.org/samplebenchmarkingreport.htm
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by karachi
Torstars business roundup on Page 2 has a story on how YYZ is the second most inefficient airport in North America, right after Miami. no details on exactly what criteria was used.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1149545411508

Toronto airport branded near worst in efficiency
Jun. 6, 2006. 01:00 AM


Toronto's Pearson International Airport is one of the least efficient airports in the world, according to a new study. [etc]

edited to add link to report info:
http://www.atrsworld.org/samplebenchmarkingreport.htm
How the hell did YVR get the top prize for efficency. Every try a Canada-US cnx there?

That website looks like some 15 year old made it out of his parent's computer in the family kitchen.

I'd like to know how, exactly, they benchmark this.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:24 pm
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The URL is registered to a room at UBC, which may also explain how YVR was ranked #1
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 2:01 pm
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And 3 members of the ATRS networking committee, including the president, are faculty members in the Sauder School of Business at UBC. One is actually the "YVR Professor of Transportation Policy and Director, Centre for Transportation Studies".

Still, they're academics, so they obviously can't be biased.

Oh, and the Vancouver International Airport Authority is one of their corporate sponsors, by the way. As is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, which coincidentally won the ATRS 2006 Global Airport Efficiency Excellence Award.

In fact Copenhagen, Incheon and Hong Kong International Airports are also corporate sponsors, and also appear to have won awards for Outstanding Achievements in the Field of Excellence. Remarkable.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 5:48 pm
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>Still, they're academics, so they obviously can't be biased.

earth to anti realist .. nanoo nanoo
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 9:49 pm
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Complete BS. Any multiterminal airport will have similar issues for those connecting between terminals. And as noted, the old transfer from one end of YVR to the other to get from domestic to transborder was hellish. BTW, another academic study that contends YYZ has the highest landing fees failed to note that aircraft do not pay gate or parking fees at YYZ, something that is charged at other airports. Also, for some reason they always use the 747 as the benchmark charge, yet almost nobody flies 747s into YYZ any more. And one of the comparison charts had LGA as another example of a lower cost for landing a 747. Of course, a 747 could never land at LGA because the runways are too short, and not strong enough to support this airplane! UBC has a very biased aviation economics group that has been misstating facts for three decades since Richard Stanbury started it.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 1:35 am
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I also agree that this is complete BS. Sure, YYZ can be a ..... at times, but so is LAX, ORD, DEN, etc...
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 9:03 am
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What's your favourite airport again nomad?
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