Mar 27, 2025, 1:59 am
Last edit by: ATLCDG
Welcome to the main Air France La Premičre thread.
In this wiki, you will find schedule, seat maps and network.
(Last updated April 2025).
For historical, technical, strategy and future network content, look in this thread.
La Premičre is available if you are flying to New York City (JFK), Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington DC, Miami, Sao Paulo, Abidjan, Dubai, Singapore, and Tokyo (HND). All flights are in / out of Paris CDG.
You will find La Premičre on the following flights:
During DST = Until 26th of October 2025
Between US and EU DST = Between 26th of October and 2nd of November 2025
After DST (Winter) = After 2nd of November
Peak Season = June, July, August
NEW YORK (JFK) (3X to 5X DAILY)
DURING DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO JFK
AF2 08:30 - 10:30
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
DURING DST (LOW SEASON)
TO JFK:
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK :
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:00+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO JFK:
AF4 10:30 - 14:00
AF6 13:30 - 17:10
AF8 16:30 - 20:15
FROM JFK :
AF1 17:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 19:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 22:30. - 10:50+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO JFK :
AF4 10:30 - 13:00
AF6 13:30 - 16:10
AF8 16:30 - 19:15
FROM JFK :
AF1 16:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 18:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 21:30 - 10:50+1
Notes on the JFK operations:
The flagship flights are AF4, AF6 and AF8. Note that this route is heavily subject to last minute aircraft changes. Even on flagship 777 routes. Downgrades have been reported multiple times.
LOS ANGELES (LAX) (2X to 3X Daily)
DURING DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO LAX
AF20 08:45 - 11:20
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF21 13:40 - 09:30+1
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20 +1
DURING DST (LOW SEASON)
TO LAX :
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX :
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
BETWEEN EU AND US DST
TO LAX :
AF22 10:15 - 14:05
AF24 13:20 - 17:10
FROM LAX :
AF23 16:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 19:30 - 14:20+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO LAX:
AF22 10:15 - 13:05
AF24 13:20 - 16:10
FROM LAX:
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
SAN FRANCISCO (SFO)
DURING DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:20 - 12:50
FROM SFO
AF83 15:05 - 10:55+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 14:10
FROM SFO
AF83 16:25 - 11:20+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 13:10
FROM SFO
AF83 15:25 - 11:20+1
WASHINGTON (IAD)
DURING DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:45 - 16:20
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:15+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 17:15
FROM IAD :
AF51 19:30 - 08:00+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 16:15
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:00+1
MIAMI (MIA)
DURING EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 10:25 - 14:15
FROM MIA
AF91 16:35 - 07:35+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 18:30
FROM MIA
AF91 20:50 - 10:45+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 17:30
FROM MIA
AF91 19:50 - 10:45+1
SAO PAULO (GRU)
MAJOR SCHEDULE CHANGE
DURING EU DST (BEFORE 30TH OF JUNE 2025) :
TO GRU
AF460 10:10 - 17:00
FROM GRU
AF459 19:15 - 11:15+1
DURING EU DST (STARTING 30TH OF JUNE 2025):
TO GRU
AF454 23:30 - 06:15+1
FROM GRU
AF453 14:40 - 06:55+1
AFTER EU DST (Winter) :
TO GRU
AF454 23:20 - 07:15+1
FROM GRU
AF453 14:40 - 06:05+1
Notes on GRU operations :
The La Premičre service is removed from the day flight and added to the night flight to GRU starting 30th of June.
ABIDJAN (ABJ)
DURING EU DST
TO ABJ
AF702 14:10 - 18:30
FROM ABJ
AF703 21:05 - 05:45+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO ABJ
AF702 14:35 - 19:55
FROM ABJ
AF703 22:15 - 05:45+1
DUBAI (DXB)
DURING EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:40 - 22:35
FROM DXB
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO DXB
AF662 13:35 - 23:20
FROM DXB
AF665 01:30 - 06:25
SINGAPORE (SIN)
DURING EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:35 - 06:10+1
AFTER DST (Winter)
TO SIN
AF256 21:05 - 16:55+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:55 - 06:10+1
TOKYO (HND)
DURING EU DST
TO HND
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
FROM HND
AF293 00:05 - 08:00 (3x Weekly)
AF279 22:05 - 06:00+1 (4x Weekly)
AFTER DST (Winter) :
TO HND
AF274 21:55 - 19:25+1
FROM HND
AF293 01:00 - 07:55
Note on HND operations:
AF279 and AF293 is the same return flight of AF274, under two different numbers due to the slots being allocated on the same day; 4x weekly it returns before midnight as AF279, three times weekly after midnight, it returns as AF293.
LA PREMIČRE
FLEET & SCHEDULE
La Premičre cabin is installed on 25 Boeing 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D/E/H/K/P/Q, and R).
Seat maps of Boeing 777-300ER with La Premičre (copyright aeroLOPA)
(click here for original site)
Version 1 ("Old" La Premičre):
Version 2 ("New" La Premičre):
(F-GSQC/E/F/L/K/Y and F-GZND/E/H/K/P/Q/R)
This La Premičre map was created using Travel-Dealz flight map tool (copyright / creative commons), to create a new one in the future if a new destination opens, click here.
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated as P service) included Beirut, Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (And has previously switched from the morning to the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
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Schedule and route map content by on.the.bowery (Last update: April 2025).
Note that as of April 2025, you can find two threads about La Premičre, a general discussion (here), and a more technical discussion (Network, Historic, Strategy, etc) in this thread.
Enjoy your flight.
Note that as of April 2025, you can find two threads about La Premičre, a general discussion (here), and a more technical discussion (Network, Historic, Strategy, etc) in this thread.
Enjoy your flight.
March 2025 - New La Premičre
Mar 16, 2026 | 9:09 am
#1201
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold Royal Air Maroc OW Emerald Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 22,531
Had a pleasant LP experience over the weekend on my JFK-CDG-MAD trip.
In the JFK LPL, LPGS was on the wine list but not anywhere to be seen. The server said "oh, we do have it but it is not chilled". Seriously? What was chilled and out...
And the whole non-champagne at the gate before the door closes continues to be ridiculous, although I did come prepared this time with a travel cup from the LPL.
At CDG, AF seems to have done a good job at limiting the inconvenience of the renovations. The front right side room is complete and a nice improvement. Indeed, a very arrivals lounge look with more practical and comfortable seating, with power outlets at each seat.
Current construction is at the left front area and dining room area fronting the kitchen and the area up to the elevator down to the cars.
And the most important part of any visit.
In the JFK LPL, LPGS was on the wine list but not anywhere to be seen. The server said "oh, we do have it but it is not chilled". Seriously? What was chilled and out...
And the whole non-champagne at the gate before the door closes continues to be ridiculous, although I did come prepared this time with a travel cup from the LPL.
At CDG, AF seems to have done a good job at limiting the inconvenience of the renovations. The front right side room is complete and a nice improvement. Indeed, a very arrivals lounge look with more practical and comfortable seating, with power outlets at each seat.
Current construction is at the left front area and dining room area fronting the kitchen and the area up to the elevator down to the cars.
And the most important part of any visit.
Last edited by SFO777; Mar 17, 2026 at 1:24 pm
Mar 16, 2026 | 2:54 pm
#1203
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold Royal Air Maroc OW Emerald Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 22,531
Mar 16, 2026 | 4:28 pm
#1204
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Ultimate/Platinum for life/Club2000, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 25,049
They are not used on departure since the automatic train downstairs linking the concourses was put in service. I don't remember when it was, but that's at least 15 years ago. On arrival with AFKL, you always get it unless you are in P.
Mar 16, 2026 | 5:23 pm
#1205
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,848
Got it. Thanks.
I confess that I'll miss the little "window" between the sofas. I'll always have my artsy photos of the champagne glass in there. Alas, I can't seem to upload one to this post but this link tells the story.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8e626759e.jpg
I confess that I'll miss the little "window" between the sofas. I'll always have my artsy photos of the champagne glass in there. Alas, I can't seem to upload one to this post but this link tells the story.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8e626759e.jpg
Mar 17, 2026 | 7:28 am
#1207
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Paris France
Programs: FB Gold
Posts: 105
Mar 17, 2026 | 7:49 am
#1208
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold Royal Air Maroc OW Emerald Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 22,531
Mar 18, 2026 | 5:58 am
#1209
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Franche Comté, FR, Atlanta, USA
Programs: DL DM-3MM, BA Gold, A3 Gold, AF Plat
Posts: 633
They are doing a good job handling the renovation. This is my 2nd time since it began and they have finished the far room as in the prior photos. It is great having outlets everywhere and the only seating I find uncomfortable are these:
Mar 18, 2026 | 9:07 am
#1210
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 220
So glad they got rid of the benches. Those were the worst.
Mar 19, 2026 | 4:12 am
#1212
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Limitless / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,333
I read above that AF was now providing a Spa voucher to be used in Paris as the service is not provided any longer in the lounge during renovation
How does it work ? Do we have to ask for them ?
I have a few P flights until June and my wife would be very happy to use them
How does it work ? Do we have to ask for them ?
I have a few P flights until June and my wife would be very happy to use them
Mar 19, 2026 | 12:03 pm
#1213
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Etoile, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 8,958
Not everybody comes to primarily eat pasta (although admittedly it is delicious, but it‘s not the only thing why some people are in that lounge).
We definitely need a proper working area, the best solution are the „working cabins“ that LH has in its FCL and FCT. They even do full meal service to those working cabins.
Mar 19, 2026 | 5:30 pm
#1214
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Singapore
Programs: FB ulti/PFL, ALL Diamond, Marriott Ambassador, EK PLAT, Air Caraďbes Diam, SQ PPS, ̷IHG Diam
Posts: 116
I read above that AF was now providing a Spa voucher to be used in Paris as the service is not provided any longer in the lounge during renovation
How does it work ? Do we have to ask for them ?
I have a few P flights until June and my wife would be very happy to use them
How does it work ? Do we have to ask for them ?
I have a few P flights until June and my wife would be very happy to use them
I think you have to ask, as last week with a night flight ( and thus being hosted in Vestibule and not LP lounge) I was not proposed any spa voucher.
Mar 21, 2026 | 8:30 am
#1215
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 3,242
Yes!!! Please.
Not everybody comes to primarily eat pasta (although admittedly it is delicious, but it‘s not the only thing why some people are in that lounge).
We definitely need a proper working area, the best solution are the „working cabins“ that LH has in its FCL and FCT. They even do full meal service to those working cabins.
Not everybody comes to primarily eat pasta (although admittedly it is delicious, but it‘s not the only thing why some people are in that lounge).
We definitely need a proper working area, the best solution are the „working cabins“ that LH has in its FCL and FCT. They even do full meal service to those working cabins.
Disclaimer: satire.