United and Chef's Table Bring Together Renowned Chefs to Create New Polaris Meals
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The Houston chef is also (iirc) handling the catering for the AMEX lounge at IAH. And he's considered to be reputable. So, maybe he can bridge the gap? Not holding my breath as others have said. Don't need a celebrity chef to tell you salad shouldn't be frozen :\
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It's easy to be dismissive of this project but, as always, it depends upon both budget and attention to detail. The wine project has worked out ok for customers - clearly the budget was there and the only problems are that there has been no training so FAs remain clueless as to what they are doing.
Food is much more complicated. The research has gone into what food works well on planes (from a taste and a storage/reheat point of view) and any competent airline caterers will know what to do. But so much depends upon the handling. Is it stored correctly? Is it reheated correctly? Is it plated correctly? Is it served quickly after plating? Etc. etc. Without significant FA training, it's difficult to see that UA's FAs, who have never really considered these things to either be important or even a key part of their job, will embrace the change and deliver what UA is looking for.
Food is much more complicated. The research has gone into what food works well on planes (from a taste and a storage/reheat point of view) and any competent airline caterers will know what to do. But so much depends upon the handling. Is it stored correctly? Is it reheated correctly? Is it plated correctly? Is it served quickly after plating? Etc. etc. Without significant FA training, it's difficult to see that UA's FAs, who have never really considered these things to either be important or even a key part of their job, will embrace the change and deliver what UA is looking for.
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It's easy to be dismissive of this project but, as always, it depends upon both budget and attention to detail. The wine project has worked out ok for customers - clearly the budget was there and the only problems are that there has been no training so FAs remain clueless as to what they are doing.
Food is much more complicated. The research has gone into what food works well on planes (from a taste and a storage/reheat point of view) and any competent airline caterers will know what to do. But so much depends upon the handling. Is it stored correctly? Is it reheated correctly? Is it plated correctly? Is it served quickly after plating? Etc. etc. Without significant FA training, it's difficult to see that UA's FAs, who have never really considered these things to either be important or even a key part of their job, will embrace the change and deliver what UA is looking for.
Food is much more complicated. The research has gone into what food works well on planes (from a taste and a storage/reheat point of view) and any competent airline caterers will know what to do. But so much depends upon the handling. Is it stored correctly? Is it reheated correctly? Is it plated correctly? Is it served quickly after plating? Etc. etc. Without significant FA training, it's difficult to see that UA's FAs, who have never really considered these things to either be important or even a key part of their job, will embrace the change and deliver what UA is looking for.
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Perhaps youve not flown ANA, JAL, Turkish or Singapore?
However those airlines also invest in people to properly prepare and serve. So until United decides to also invest in their staff and training, then maybe keeping things simple so you dont have to worry about preparation or presentation.
However those airlines also invest in people to properly prepare and serve. So until United decides to also invest in their staff and training, then maybe keeping things simple so you dont have to worry about preparation or presentation.
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The list I had is no means complete. I would add Austrian as another one. Forget about international long haul, even their intra-Europe short hops serve delicious meals in J.
Ben over in OMAAT has a story about how Kirby does not eat on board United flights. And Kirby has been on record about this in other interviews/podcasts.
I get that each person has their personal reasons for what/when they eat, but when you are the CEO you are supposed to experience the product and services of your company.
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Flying back home on Austrian once, my wife said her meal was the best of our trip. I thought she meant it was the best airplane meal she had on this particular trip, but no--she was saying it was the best meal on our entire two-week vacation and we had eaten pretty well on that trip.
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The list I had is no means complete. I would add Austrian as another one. Forget about international long haul, even their intra-Europe short hops serve delicious meals in J.
Ben over in OMAAT has a story about how Kirby does not eat on board United flights. And Kirby has been on record about this in other interviews/podcasts.
I get that each person has their personal reasons for what/when they eat, but when you are the CEO you are supposed to experience the product and services of your company.
The list I had is no means complete. I would add Austrian as another one. Forget about international long haul, even their intra-Europe short hops serve delicious meals in J.
Ben over in OMAAT has a story about how Kirby does not eat on board United flights. And Kirby has been on record about this in other interviews/podcasts.
I get that each person has their personal reasons for what/when they eat, but when you are the CEO you are supposed to experience the product and services of your company.
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Yeah, no!

Give me NY/Chi/LA/SF!
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Also optimistic - domestic dining has gotten significantly better in the last year or two and it's time for Polaris to follow. Like any other opex item it won't last, but hopefully is a nice facelift for a while.
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It's easy to be dismissive of this project but, as always, it depends upon both budget and attention to detail. The wine project has worked out ok for customers - clearly the budget was there and the only problems are that there has been no training so FAs remain clueless as to what they are doing.
But with the wine, they just spent on the product. In fact, only those of us on sites like this know at all that they DID improve the quality of wines they're pouring. There was no public bragging, no big marketing campaigns, no celebrity tie-ins... Just a drastically improved product.
They could have done the same with the food. Spend money on the product, roll out better stuff without bragging about it, don't spend that money on marketing or branding tie-ins, and let the word spread.
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Presumably there is a correlation between this, and https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...is-suites.html
and come August we are going to see intensive promotion of the combination of the two, and somehow also tied in with a UA branded credit card, giving the impression that a credit card from UA will get you fantastic food, whilst sitting in a great seat on a brand new plane, being catered to by the friendliest FAs in the world.
and come August we are going to see intensive promotion of the combination of the two, and somehow also tied in with a UA branded credit card, giving the impression that a credit card from UA will get you fantastic food, whilst sitting in a great seat on a brand new plane, being catered to by the friendliest FAs in the world.
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I flew ANA business from KUL to NRT the other week and the inflight meal blew my mind. I had a perfectly cooked filet with a nice peppercorn sauce on the side. There was even some smoked duck as part of the appetizer.
Every time I fly another airlines I'm constantly reminded how much better it could be as opposed to the gruel they serve on united. Lets hope this project brings some renewed effort into make the inflight experience a bit better.
Every time I fly another airlines I'm constantly reminded how much better it could be as opposed to the gruel they serve on united. Lets hope this project brings some renewed effort into make the inflight experience a bit better.



