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Please note that this wiki may have outdated and incorrect info. It was created in a time when official and reliable information was scarce. Now there are a lot more info at https://www.finnair.com/fi-en/finnai...r-plus-changes which is where you should be looking.


What is spend actually?
Fare-component
Travel-extras*

*) Finnair.com says all add-ons are considered spend and linked listing includes hotels, cab and rentalcars. This is likely not true, but clarification is needed.


What is not spend?
"Taxes, fees and other airport- and servicefees"
On 2023-09-20 Finnair webpages changed to specify that everything under "Taxes, fees and charges" is considered not spend, expect something called "Extra fee". What this is and when it will be charged is unknown.



Award flights, regardless of how much you spend on add-ons, will give you zero spend and thus zero Avios and zero tierpoints.

Any spend onboard (eg food and drink items) are not considered spend with Finnair and earns zero.


Currency
Will spend be converted to EUR (or will there be earning tables in each currency)?
If you buy your flight tickets and travel extras in other currency than euro (for example, in USD, GBP or SEK), the total amount of your purchase (excluding taxes, other fees except for possible Extra fee, and other airport and service charges) will be first converted to euros and then multiplied with your tiers multiplier.

How will currency conversion be done (official exchange rates, IATA, Finnair internal?)
Needs clarification

When will currency conversion take place (time of purchase, time of point crediting, time of bookkeping)?
Needs clarification


Tiers

Tiers will have earning multipliers for AY spend - what are they?
Avios = spend x tier multiplier but the multiplying factor needs clarification
Basic 6x
Silver 7x
Gold 8x
Platinum 9x
Lumo 10x

Tiers will have multipliers for partner earnings tables - what are they?
They are said to be between 1,10 and 1,25 depending on tier. The exact multipliers are not disclosed, but likely they will continue as of today (silver 1,1, gold 1,15 and Platinum & lumo 1,25)
The wording on ay.com has changed. There is no longer a mention of tier multipliers for partners. Earning tables are still unknown, but wording on site now is
Tier point qualification and collecting loyalty currency on flights that are marketed or operated* by a partner airline, including Finnair codeshare flights, will continue to be based on the travel class, booking class and distance flown, but the distance flown will be changed from kilometres to miles.

Tiers will have new thresholds - what will they be?
Same TP requirement for reaching a tier and for renewing a tier.

Finnair Plus Silver 15 000
Finnair Plus Gold 45 000
Finnair Plus Platinum 80 000
Finnair Plus Platinum Lumo 300 000 (of which 250 000 collected from Finnair)

Lifetime tiers - what are their thresholds, how will previous lifetime tier points be accounted for?
Previuis lifetime total will be converted as 3:2.
New tiers are
Gold 2 000 000
Platinum 3 300 000


Tier points
TP is said to be 1:1 with Avios. Will this be true for avios/tp earned on all partner airlines?
Needs clarification

The change-over

When is the change-over done?
Needs clarification
Finnair has communicated different vague things, "early 2024" and "first half of 2024". They have said dates will be anounced "later in 2023".
Finnair have now said end of January as a change over date (also indicating change-over will take several days of processing). The final announcement is said to be 1 month in advance. At this point, we are looking at committing announcement during Christmas break.
Now the fixed date for the changeover is 9 March 2024

What will happen at change-over?
All existing AP and TP at that point will be reduced as 3:2 (-33%).
Tickets booked before change-over will earn according to old rules but with reduction 3:2 (-33%) - a table has been published with values seemingly rounded to nearest 10 avios.

Segment counter will be set to zero and disappear. Regardless of exact change-over date, this text from finnair.com indicates last evaluation will be held 31 January 2024:
In late January 2024, Finnair Plus program will become spend-based. Starting from 1 February 2024 it is not possible to reach tiers based on the number of flights only. At the same time, we will remove the number of flights from members Finnair Plus profile.Until then, we will count all the scheduled Finnair or other oneworld airlines flights that you have flown. If you have flown enough qualified flights or collected enough tier points by 31 January 2024 to renew your current tier, you will maintain your tier. Or, if you have flown enough qualified flights or collected enough tier points by 31 January 2024 to qualify for a higher tier, you will move up to a higher tier.
What will awards cost?
Needs clarification
Award charts are vaguely said to be reduced by 3:2 on average, but unclear if this Finnair charts or partner charts or a combination. Some charts are not easily reduced 3:2











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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by LaplandFlyer
Was this written down anywhere?
No real limit as such, but I tried to move a grandfathered flex reservation and was told there's a limit as to how far it can be moved from the original date. Can't remember if it was the original ticketing date or original travel date.
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Originally Posted by kauppias
should be ok, I would check with ay to make 110% sure.
I was thinking of doing the same to a PE flex just to add on to the next reward level and get valuable LTPs but have not been able to confirm if there is a reward level for sure after 320k tps with the 100 or 80k avios....
Platsapp said no if change Y->J with money. The J would be normal accrual, not double.
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Originally Posted by Jorma
Platsapp said no if change Y->J with money. The J would be normal accrual, not double.
do you mean if you did a upgrade or a upfare?
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Originally Posted by Jorma
Platsapp said no if change Y->J with money. The J would be normal accrual, not double.
I got exactly the opposite answer from platssapp, asking from changing Eco-Flex --> Business-Flex.
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Old Feb 15, 2026 | 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias
do you mean if you did a upgrade or a upfare?
Upfared to J flex. Will still get the initial Y flex as double and and the price i paid to change Y -> J as normal. Pretty sure its not going to post like that.
Hoping obviously the system will post the whole ticket as double...
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Old Feb 15, 2026 | 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Jorma
Upfared to J flex. Will still get the initial Y flex as double and and the price i paid to change Y -> J as normal. Pretty sure its not going to post like that.
Hoping obviously the system will post the whole ticket as double...
intresting logic if they told me that I would jusy use vouchers or avios....

That said so far 0% of my double points campaign tickets have posted correctly... all posting around 130%-167% 😂😂 no one at finnair can figure out why even ones with no changes....
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Old Feb 15, 2026 | 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Beerbias
I got exactly the opposite answer from platssapp, asking from changing Eco-Flex --> Business-Flex.
Hahahaa, sounds like AY. Do you have the chat saved/screenshot? I might need to borrow that in August.

Originally Posted by kauppias
intresting logic if they told me that I would jusy use vouchers or avios....

That said so far 0% of my double points campaign tickets have posted correctly... all posting around 130%-167% 😂😂 no one at finnair can figure out why even ones with no changes....
I would have done that aswell if there was U availability, but im too kermaperse to waitlist nowdays after i tried Y on JFK-HEL.
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Old Feb 16, 2026 | 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by Jorma
Hahahaa, sounds like AY. Do you have the chat saved/screenshot? I might need to borrow that in August.
Of course.
I propably test this in one shorter trip in few weeks.
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I have changed a couple of flights from Y Flex to J Flex and gotten the double Avios for the whole J Flex price. As long as the original ticket was bought during the campaign period, double Avios will post for the whole fare.
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Does anyone have experience of requesting ORC for double points promo? AY1 schedules have changed since August. I'm looking to change to an AY-coded itinerary on BA to get to LAX on the desired dates. Or possibly BA coded, would that make any difference for the ORC claim?
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Tricky situation, I have codeshare booking made with old rules that I need to move. Y flex so no issues BUT after quickly chatting with AY prices for similar codeshares have increased but cheaper fares are proposed on AY metal.
Now, as we all remember, important thing in Ay loyalty is not to fly with AY so I'm in a pickle. Try to find non-ay flights and pay more, with certain uncertainty what earnings will come out, or take AY flights and accept very odd TP's.
I guess I need to go in middle ground, at least it allows then upgrading and maybe still like 75% of original tier points If only there would be AY promotion, I would just cancel the trip completely and rebook with refunded amount.

I can not even search options on the MMB due to non-AY tickets so I guess best method is look at booking engine for similar Yflex tickets and propose routing option directly to CS.
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Old Mar 1, 2026 | 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by Post Scriptum
Tricky situation, I have codeshare booking made with old rules that I need to move. Y flex so no issues BUT after quickly chatting with AY prices for similar codeshares have increased but cheaper fares are proposed on AY metal.
Now, as we all remember, important thing in Ay loyalty is not to fly with AY so I'm in a pickle. Try to find non-ay flights and pay more, with certain uncertainty what earnings will come out, or take AY flights and accept very odd TP's.
I guess I need to go in middle ground, at least it allows then upgrading and maybe still like 75% of original tier points If only there would be AY promotion, I would just cancel the trip completely and rebook with refunded amount.

I can not even search options on the MMB due to non-AY tickets so I guess best method is look at booking engine for similar Yflex tickets and propose routing option directly to CS.
that is all you can do, not allways easy, I just cancelled my pe codeshare under old rules and moved a spare res that was under 2x promo to those dates ended up with same TPs same cost just 1 set of flights 😎😀
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Old Mar 1, 2026 | 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by Post Scriptum
Tricky situation, I have codeshare booking made with old rules that I need to move. Y flex so no issues BUT after quickly chatting with AY prices for similar codeshares have increased but cheaper fares are proposed on AY metal.
Now, as we all remember, important thing in Ay loyalty is not to fly with AY so I'm in a pickle. Try to find non-ay flights and pay more, with certain uncertainty what earnings will come out, or take AY flights and accept very odd TP's.
I guess I need to go in middle ground, at least it allows then upgrading and maybe still like 75% of original tier points If only there would be AY promotion, I would just cancel the trip completely and rebook with refunded amount.

I can not even search options on the MMB due to non-AY tickets so I guess best method is look at booking engine for similar Yflex tickets and propose routing option directly to CS.
If you do not have an AY ticket, how can your ticket have an AY ticket type?
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Old Mar 1, 2026 | 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
If you do not have an AY ticket, how can your ticket have an AY ticket type?
i am guessing/assuming they meant non ay operated flights as indeed codeshare with ticket type would imply a ay ticket on a codeshare partner
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Originally Posted by kauppias
i am guessing/assuming they meant non ay operated flights as indeed codeshare with ticket type would imply a ay ticket on a codeshare partner
Ah yeah, so ticket is AY but all flights are codeshare and as such no changes can be done via mmb. To optimize ay plus loyalty, avoid ay metal at all costs
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