Hmm, well I’m pretty sure Canadian Airlines was out of business by then (and I’m not sure they operated 757s) - maybe Canada 3000?

Canada 3000 is Correct!

I just finished a PT session, and so don't have access to my transcribed itineraries until I get home. I just wanted to pass on the good news and I'll have that itinerary posted shortly

Mexicana MX 996 Guadalajara (GDL) 840a – 955a B Las Vegas (LAS) 727-200 Th Su
Canada 3000 2T 606 Las Vegas (LAS) 1115a – 245p L Calgary (YYC) 757-200 Th Su

And how fortuitous that both flights operated on Thursday and Sunday!

So - in the process of reformatting and simplifying these questions, I have hit upon the source of our problem. And that problem starts with me.

Essentially, the backstories are too distracting and serve more to confuse than to embellish the questions.

Additionally, the questions are more difficult and convoluted than they need to be. This is especially true of the four flight/four airline/four aircraft itineraries which are just ridiculous and understandably unworthy of anyone's time here.

So, I apologize to you all for that and will endeavor to make these and future questions simpler and more straightforward. Additionally, this will be the last of the big batch submissions. The sheer amount of questions can be overwhelming, so henceforth all future submissions will be no more than 3-5 questions. Mind you, I speak only for myself. The rest of youse are welcome to submit your questions in whatever style suits you.

Good luck, everyone! I hope you find this reworked batch more to your liking ✈️



4. (1974) Port Au Prince to Chicago. This trip will involve two nonstop flights aboard two different airlines, each of them operating a different aircraft type – both built by the same manufacturer. One of the flights is operated by the oldest type of jet, while the other is the most recent model..please identify the two airlines, the route and the two aircraft types.

5. (1987) You need to fly from Burbank, CA to Montreal, Quebec next month. Your travel agent has booked you a three flight itinerary involving three airlines, each operating a different model of aircraft, each built by the same manufacturer. One of the airlines is foreign and operates a widebody on the final leg. Each aircraft will also have a different engine configuration. None of the aircraft were built north of the 45° parallel. Identify the routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types.
NOTE: I know this question is pushing the boundaries a bit, sobit's on the short list to get the hook this weekend.

6. (2001) Dios Mios! You and your best friend Guillermo just got hired to work at the Amazon warehouse in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. You’ll be departing Guadalajara next Thursday and your itinerary involves two flights aboard two different airlines. The two flights will be nonstop. Two different aircraft types will be flown, each of them built by the same manufacturer. And finally, you won’t have to fly through California, where Guillermo’s worried about being denied entry due to a couple of unpaid traffic tickets. Identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the two aircraft types to be flown.
A N S W E R E D ✨️

7. (1992) You need to fly from Cozumel to Baltimore. You normally fly First Class, but alas, all of the usual airlines offering connections between CZM and BWI are sold out in First class on one or both flights. Sigh... Thankfully, you've found a new airline - albeit one that operates in an all-economy configuration - that offers a convenient itinerary involving two nonstop flights with a luncheon and a snack being served along the way. Both flights will be operated by the exact same make and model of aircraft, too. Please provide all of the usual particulars.

8. (1974) Montego Bay to North Bay. Ontario, that is gonna be a full day of flying, aboard four flights operated by three airlines. Also, all aircraft involved will have been built by the same manufacturer. The third and fourth flights are operated by the same airline. So then, please fill in the blanks on the rest of them.

10. (2001) You’re headed to Maui from Baltimore. You’ve put together an interesting itinerary involving two airlines and three nonstop flights, all aboard the same model of aircraft. Each flight will feature an aircraft a little bit larger than the the one operating the flight before it. The first two flights are operated by the same airline. So armed with these clues, please identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the three aircraft
A N S W E R E D

11. (1992) You're flying from Minneapolis to Ponce, Puerto Rico. You’re about to board the first of two all-economy configured aircraft, each operated by a different airline, which will fly you to Ponce today. Each flight will make one enroute stop. And, each flight will be operated by the exact same type of jet (i.e. make and variant) So – please identify both airlines, the complete routing, and the aircraft type common to both flights.

13. (1987) You're headed to Kingston, Jamaica. Departing Milwaukee early Thursday morning, you’ll board a two-stop flight to your intermediate stop, where you’ll connect to a nonstop flight down to Kingston. Identify the two airlines, the two different aircraft types, and the two enroute stops for the first flight.

14. (2001) You need to fly from your home on Long Island to Albuquerque, New Mexico. To that end, you've booked a nice itinerary involving two airlines, each operating the same type of regional jet. Departing from your hometown airport (New York's LaGuardia), your first flight will be nonstop, while the second flight will make two stops enroute to Albuquerque. Please identify the two airlines, the complete routing including intermediate stops and the aircraft type.

15. (1992) You need to fly from Anaheim, CA to Minot, ND and, as might be expected, there are no nonstop or direct flights between the two cities. That's alright though. You like a good multi-stop itinerary, and so you'll start today out by boarding a one-stop flight to your connection airport where you'll then board a different airline's two stop flight on to Minot. Two different aircraft types will be flown, each built by a different manufacturer. Please identify all of the pertinent details.

19. (1992)After an all day ride yesterday aboard Mexico's famous Copper Canyon train between Chihuahua and Los Mochis, it's time to return home to Fairbanks, Alaska. You’ll depart Los Mochis aboard a one stop flight to your connection airport, where you’ll then board a three stop flight up to Fairbanks. As is so often the case, each of your flights will be operated by aircraft built by different manufacturers. Please identify all the usual stuff.

21. (1987) It's been a cold winter up in Ottawa, Canada, so you're off for a little sun and fun down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Your trip between Ottawa and MYR will involve a trio of nonstop flights, each aboard a different airline, with each airline operating aircraft built by a different manufacturer. By now, you know how we roll here, so please provide all of the details intrinsic to a correct answer.

23. (1992) This week's sales trip takes you from Seattle to Cedar Rapids. Normally, United could handle this itinerary via a single connection in Denver, but alas, United's flight into CID is sold out. Thankfully, your travel agent has found you a two flight itinerary, with both flights on the same airline. The first flight will be nonstop, but the second will make two enroute stops. And, get this! Both flights will be aboard the same exact type of aircraft. You all know the drill by now. Please provide the usual info.

24. (1974) You need to get from Victoria, British Columbia to Veracruz, Mexico. Today's trip will involve three airlines, with the first two flights being nonstops, connecting to a one stop flight into VeraCruz. As to be expected, three different aircraft will be involved, each built by a different manufacturer. Your job is to identify each of the three airlines, the complete routing, and the three aircraft types.

I have a feeling this question may be too tough for most of our participants, so if it's not sniffed at by Sunday, I'll go ahead and remove it.

Alright then... I've cleaned these questions up as well as I can, and dropped four or five four flight itineraries just for cause. While those questions were fun to research and compose, I think we can agree that asking you to muddle your way through so many flights, airlines and aircraft is just too much, and not fair to you all.

That said, i once again accept and apologize for such a deeply flawed set of questions, and acknowledge that even these reworked questions may still be unworthy of your time.

So - why don't we revisit this on Sunday evening, at which time we can decide whether to continue or retire these questions. If it be the latter, we will of course welcome a new batch of questions from jrl767 or jlemon or just move on to some discussion of airline history and the like.

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24. (1974)

Shot at this maybe. Victoria didn't have a lot of schedules, but Pacific Western ran to Vancouver with their Convair 640, that's the type re-engined with Rolls-Royce Dart turboprops. Getting down to Mexico then on a Douglas DC8-63 of CP Air, in their strident orange and red livery. That's Douglas taken care of, and as Aeromexico only had Douglas jets we'll have to go with Mexicana and a 727-200 off to Vera Cruz.

My favorites are the even earlier ones, with the timetables by individual airline in railroad schedule format. Many of those schedules were also printed in the aforementioned Official Guide to the Railways, of which I also have a few copies (however, I try to keep my railroad references relevant to the era of my to-be-built-someday model layout, which will be set in May 1963).

Okay, I can spare a few minutes. Let's try a couple of these.

Well, this pretty much limits it to McDonnell Douglas aircraft (Toulouse is south of 45° but the Airbus 320 series didn't go into service until 1988). So for the last leg we need to think of a foreign airline operating a DC-10 to Montreal. Then we need a couple other McDD operators for the first two legs. By 1987 I don't think there were a lot of options out of BUR, yet, so let's try this:

BUR-SEA, AS MD-82
SEA-YVR, UA DC-8-61
YVR-YUL, CP DC-10-30



This one feels like a gimme, which means I'm probably way out in left field (and thinking of schedules 10 years earlier). How about the airline being America West, the aircraft a 737-200, connecting point PHX, and the two stops OMA and DSM?

I wouldn't call this a deeply flawed set of questions, just ultra challenging!

I may have been born 30 years earlier, but I didn't get to ride many US streamliners pre-Amtrak, as my family moved to Europe long before Amtrak: Erie's Erie Limited was the extent of it. But in Europe I managed to ride the Orient Express (many times on various stages between Paris and Bucharest), the Tauern Express, the Vidobona, the Manchester Pullman (last all-Pullman train anyplace and only first class), the St. David Pullman, the Italia Express, the Soviet's East-West Express (Moscow-Paris, which once included a through sleeper from Moscow to Madrid), the Sud Express, the Chopin (Vienna-Warsaw), the Blue Train (trains with same name in France and in South Africa), the Nord Express, the Direct-Orient, the Arlberg Express, the Mozart, the Cisallpino, Le Capitole, the Ostende-Vienna Express, the Trans-Siberian Express, just about all the (all first-class) Trans Europe Expresses, etc., etc. Alas all gone today. Yes, not a one of them remains. Then it was on to India, Latin America, east Asia, the antipodes, Africa and Canada for more Rail adventures. Yes, airlines were neglected.

That's an impressive collection of rail experiences there, Track! Maybe a book should be in your future?

Outside of the Orient Express, I'm not at all familiar with European trains past or present. Unlike so many youth of my generation, I eschewed the seemingly obligatory trip to Europe where a backpack and a Eurailpass were your best friends.

Indeed, I didn't set foot on the continent until I was 44 years old. Instead, I spent the 80s and 90s traveling extensively through Oceania and South America, and although much of South America's long distance intercity rail network had fallen into disrepair by the mid-nineties, I still found some exciting rides in Ecuador, Peru, Chile and Argentina.

Thankfully I was blessed to have ridden most all of New Zealand's main intercity trains on both islands (especially nice because they were everyday public transport trains back then - not the gaudy tourist trains that remain today) as well as some of the rural worker's trains that operated in the Atherton Tablelands in the far north of Queensland.

Alas, I overslept and missed my chance to log a flight aboard an East West F.28 on one trip.

I did however manage a ride aboard the Trans-Siberian /Trans-Mongolian straight through from Moscow to Beijing back in 2017.

For awhile in the early 2000s, Alaska had a wonderful award redemption where a mere 20000 would net you a roundtrip roomette anywhere along the route of Amtrak's Coast Starlight.

I've got a few rides already booked aboard Amtrak this year. Who knows - maybe someday I might buy you a drink and trade train tales in the Sightseer Lounge Car 🚆 🚂

One of the weird but popular 5th freedoms in the day was JFK-YUL which was operated at least by AR with a 747-200 in that era, and IIRC in(to) the early '00s by BA with a 757-200(!). The one I think may be the right candidate is RG with a 10-30.

So my guess is
PS BUR-SFO with an MD-80
UA SFO-JFK with the D8S, and
RG JFK-YUL with the DC-10-30

Educated guess time as I have no knowledge.

I'm going to guess the final leg was AC with a D8S YYZ-MBJ given the large Jamaican diaspora in Toronto.
1st leg, YYR-YWK-YUL operated by ND (NordAir) with a 737-200
2nd leg, I can only guess CP with a 727-200 YUL-YYZ, and 3rd leg as above
AC D8S YYZ-MBJ

If it's Vindobona, OeBB and CD give that moniker to RailJet trains that run between Vienna and Czechia (mainly Prague) with some of the CD trains going on to Berlin. Might nt be the same experience as far as dinign cars go. Reputedly the food on CD RJs are better than on OeBB ones (ridden in BC on both, and dined onboard the past 2+ years). With forewarning, only ordered what would reheat well on the OeBB train.

Trans-European Express, I only know from Kraftwerk and having seen models of the DB trainsets.

My guess for #5:
CO M80 BUR-DEN
UA D8S DEN-BOS
LH D10 BOS-YUL

#7 - While American Trans Air/ATA didn't seem like the type of airline that would serve food in its later days, maybe they did in 1992. So, to keep this moving along, guessing TZ operating 727-200s connecting at IND.