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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by broncophil
I’m on AF21 next week, does this mean I’ll get the new seats? Or luck of the draw?
The latter.
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Old Jul 14, 2025 | 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by mhpkev
On AF21 LAX-CDG today. This is the PE product - unsure if it’s the old or new.

I believe this is the A350 not the 772.
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by FlyAndLive21
I believe this is the A350 not the 772.
Windows look like it is a 777
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 10:45 pm
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As of the 17th of July 2025, I can confirm (From visually seeing it) that the following 777-200ER are equipped with the new premium (W, Recaro) cabin product :
  • F-GSPD
  • F-GSPF
  • F-GSPM
  • F-GSPN
  • F-GSPY
  • F-GSPZ
F-GSPU is currently at maintenance hangar.

Other likely retrofits that might have taken place during recent 777-200ER maintenance visits, listed here :

F-GSPL 19 Oct / 27 Dec 2024
F-GSPE 2 Jan / 26 Jan 2025
F-GSPP 15 Jan / 17 Mar 2025
F-GSPA 20 Fev / 23 Mar 2025
F-GSPO 05 Apr / 20 May 2025
F-GSPQ 26 Apr / 24 May 2025

I can't confirm if a retrofit took place during all these maintenance visits, especially the short ones. If you fly on these registrations soon, please report if it is equipped with new W.

If all of these a/c were retrofitted during these visits, it would mean that 70% of 777-200ER are now equipped with the new Recaro W. (But I can't confirm this.)
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Old Aug 6, 2025 | 5:33 am
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Flew F-GSPO (Saint-Germain-en-Laye) last week and can confirm it has the new W seats
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Old Sep 3, 2025 | 2:01 am
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Can confirm that F-GSPE has new Premium seats
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Old Dec 26, 2025 | 12:40 pm
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considering PE in June LAX-CDG. If I get the shell PE I will be switching with someone in coach. It is impossible to sleep in the shell product. It tricks you into thinking it reclines but all it does is slide forward.
What are the chances that i will get the older shell product?
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 3:31 pm
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I believe this is an updated plane from CDG to LAX. Which seat would you pick?


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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 6:02 pm
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We took the row 22 K,L on a late PM flight and slept well. you get more leg room.
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 7:21 pm
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Thanks - was wondering if the door cuts into leg space and/or if the seats are narrower if the tray table/TV are in the arm rest. But it sounds like it's a good seat?
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Old Feb 1, 2026 | 1:20 am
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If you scroll down a bit you get to the virtual tour. Available across AF/KL for most planes, not all configurations

https://wwws.airfrance.fr/en/informa...os-avions/b777
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Old Feb 1, 2026 | 9:11 am
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same size
no interference from the door
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Old Feb 1, 2026 | 6:09 pm
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Flying W tomorrow and here is what I have just received. It seems like AF is finally rolling out an on-tray service for the pre landing meal in W, replacing the infamous “bon appétit” bag (which is also served in Y…).




This would be a very appreciated improvement to the W catering and overall soft product. Will share a few pics tomorrow.
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Old Feb 1, 2026 | 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by canadou
Flying W tomorrow and here is what I have just received. It seems like AF is finally rolling out an on-tray service for the pre landing meal in W, replacing the infamous “bon appétit” bag (which is also served in Y…).




This would be a very appreciated improvement to the W catering and overall soft product. Will share a few pics tomorrow.
Certainly a long-awaited improvement. I just hope it's not just the same stuff as in the Bon Appétit bag put on a tray. Because the description seems to match with what was in the current bag. Please tell us and take a picture .
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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 2:42 am
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I'm in W from HKG, let's see what I get.
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