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I guess it was Republic by then, wasn't it? I also thought the USAir (or USAirways; I don't remember the timing of that change, either) kept AL* for the commuter operation, so I'll make some minor modifications there.
Next round, then:
1A
ATY-MSP, RC, D9S
MSP-ORD, UA 737
ORD-SYR, AA 72S
SYR-ART, US* B99 (or BE9, another code that changed over the years)
1B
ART-SYR, US* B99 (same disclaimer)
SYR-ORD, AA M80
ORD-MSP, NW D10
MSP-FAR, NW 727
FAR-ATY, RC CV5
Next round, then:
1A
ATY-MSP, RC, D9S
MSP-ORD, UA 737
ORD-SYR, AA 72S
SYR-ART, US* B99 (or BE9, another code that changed over the years)
1B
ART-SYR, US* B99 (same disclaimer)
SYR-ORD, AA M80
ORD-MSP, NW D10
MSP-FAR, NW 727
FAR-ATY, RC CV5
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pretty close to tap-in time for most of these
1A-
1A-
MSP is CORRECT
RC is CORRECT
D9S is INCORRECT
ORD is CORRECT
UA is CORRECT
737 is INCORRECT
SYR is CORRECT
AA is CORRECT
72S is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT
1B-RC is CORRECT
D9S is INCORRECT
ORD is CORRECT
UA is CORRECT
737 is INCORRECT
SYR is CORRECT
AA is CORRECT
72S is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT
SYR is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT
ORD is INCORRECT
AA is CORRECT
M80 is INCORRECT
MSP is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
D10 is CORRECT
FAR is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
727 is INCORRECT
RC is CORRECT
CV5 is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT
ORD is INCORRECT
AA is CORRECT
M80 is INCORRECT
MSP is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
D10 is CORRECT
FAR is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
727 is INCORRECT
RC is CORRECT
CV5 is CORRECT
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Comin' along nicely up above. I've completed 23 of 40 questions thus far. They should be ready to go in a week or so when jrl767's remaining question is solved. Good luck!



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pretty close to tap-in time for most of these 
1A-

1A-
MSP is CORRECT
RC is CORRECT
D9S is INCORRECT -- D95
ORD is CORRECT
UA is CORRECT
737 is INCORRECT -- 733
SYR is CORRECT
AA is CORRECT
72S is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT -- Empire (don't remember their code)
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT -- F28
1B-RC is CORRECT
D9S is INCORRECT -- D95
ORD is CORRECT
UA is CORRECT
737 is INCORRECT -- 733
SYR is CORRECT
AA is CORRECT
72S is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT -- Empire (don't remember their code)
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT -- F28
SYR is CORRECT
US is INCORRECT -- Empire
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT -- SWM
ORD is INCORRECT -- JFK
AA is CORRECT
M80 is INCORRECT -- 727
MSP is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
D10 is CORRECT
FAR is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
727 is INCORRECT -- 72S
RC is CORRECT
CV5 is CORRECT
Next round follows incorrect stabs inline. The hardest part is keeping track of the unique airlines and aircraft types!US is INCORRECT -- Empire
B99/BE9 is INCORRECT -- SWM
ORD is INCORRECT -- JFK
AA is CORRECT
M80 is INCORRECT -- 727
MSP is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
D10 is CORRECT
FAR is CORRECT
NW is CORRECT
727 is INCORRECT -- 72S
RC is CORRECT
CV5 is CORRECT
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separating these for easier cross-reference
1A
F28 is INCORRECT
1A
- ATY-MSP RC D95
- MSP-ORD UA — 733 is INCORRECT (actually couldn’t have been, since that type didn’t even enter service until 1985)
- ORD-SYR AA 72S
- SYR-ART
F28 is INCORRECT
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1B
F28 is INCORRECT
M80 is INCORRECT (also B11)
XXX-MSP NW D10
MSP-FAR NW 72S
FAR-ATY RC CV5
- ART-SYR
F28 is INCORRECT
- SYR-XXX, AA, tbd
M80 is INCORRECT (also B11)
XXX-MSP NW D10
MSP-FAR NW 72S
FAR-ATY RC CV5



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Still working on the ART segments, but let's try these for the rest.
MSP-ORD, UA, 727 (since the 727 is now available under the ground rules)
SYR-XXX, AA 707 (that's all that's left for AA!)
SYR-XXX and XXX-MSP, AA and NW, 707 (presumably) and D10 -- I'm thinking the only logical airport left for XXX is DTW (but I do have a less-logical one in mind if this is wrong)
MSP-ORD, UA, 727 (since the 727 is now available under the ground rules)
SYR-XXX, AA 707 (that's all that's left for AA!)
SYR-XXX and XXX-MSP, AA and NW, 707 (presumably) and D10 -- I'm thinking the only logical airport left for XXX is DTW (but I do have a less-logical one in mind if this is wrong)



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As for those ART segments:
This is before any of the express carriers were in existence (except for Allegheny Commuter, which has already been ruled out) so it's time to think of small carriers in upstate New York. I can think of several in the six New England states, but Empire was the only one that came to mind for New York. EXCEPT ... I just saw something totally unrelated that reminded me of Colgan Air. So:
SYR-ART and ART-SYR, 9L, SF3 (since the B99 has already been ruled out)
This is before any of the express carriers were in existence (except for Allegheny Commuter, which has already been ruled out) so it's time to think of small carriers in upstate New York. I can think of several in the six New England states, but Empire was the only one that came to mind for New York. EXCEPT ... I just saw something totally unrelated that reminded me of Colgan Air. So:
SYR-ART and ART-SYR, 9L, SF3 (since the B99 has already been ruled out)
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... let's try these ...
MSP-ORD, UA, 727 (since the 727 is now available under the ground rules)
SYR-XXX, AA 707 (that's all that's left for AA!)
SYR-XXX and XXX-MSP, AA and NW, 707 (presumably) and D10 -- I'm thinking the only logical airport left for XXX is DTW (but I do have a less-logical one in mind if this is wrong)
MSP-ORD, UA, 727 (since the 727 is now available under the ground rules)
SYR-XXX, AA 707 (that's all that's left for AA!)
SYR-XXX and XXX-MSP, AA and NW, 707 (presumably) and D10 -- I'm thinking the only logical airport left for XXX is DTW (but I do have a less-logical one in mind if this is wrong)
As for those ART segments:
This is before any of the express carriers were in existence (except for Allegheny Commuter, which has already been ruled out) so it's time to think of small carriers in upstate New York. I can think of several in the six New England states, but Empire was the only one that came to mind for New York. EXCEPT ... I just saw something totally unrelated that reminded me of Colgan Air. So:
SYR-ART and ART-SYR, 9L, SF3 (since the B99 has already been ruled out)
This is before any of the express carriers were in existence (except for Allegheny Commuter, which has already been ruled out) so it's time to think of small carriers in upstate New York. I can think of several in the six New England states, but Empire was the only one that came to mind for New York. EXCEPT ... I just saw something totally unrelated that reminded me of Colgan Air. So:
SYR-ART and ART-SYR, 9L, SF3 (since the B99 has already been ruled out)
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some photo history that I saw at PHX recently


the resolution of the actual pic made it difficult for me to be certain that the TW 707-331B is actually N28728, but I’m happy to tell myself that it’s that jet which took Mrs767 and me SFO-ORD in Aug 1981


the resolution of the actual pic made it difficult for me to be certain that the TW 707-331B is actually N28728, but I’m happy to tell myself that it’s that jet which took Mrs767 and me SFO-ORD in Aug 1981




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B747sp thr-jfk jfk-bah
This is probably too old for nearly everyone. Back in 1976-1979 I was a regular traveler on the B747SP, which remains the single best flying experience i ever had. Pan Am, among other places flew it JFK-BAH then as part of the famous flights ))! and 002, the round the world flights which used BAH as a stop for a few years.
However my personal second most poignant B747SP is that of SN EP-5AD the last aircraft delivered to IranAir, but actually executed after the revolution. I was then an officer of the bank that financed the aircraft and had previously been based in Tehran. After the revolution I had to go to Tehran to execute the transaction. That was exciting in all the wrong ways! I did get out and that aircraft one perhaps the last SP in scheduled service.
The most poignant story is a 1976 one I was booked to leave on a PanAm 747SP from Beirut to Tehran (that flight does not appear in timetables of the era so I think it was a special arrangement related to IranAir's commitment to buy them, as stated above from 1979. In any evert the Beirut airport area was under fire and even getting to the airport was an excercise of our driver switching icons at roadblocks in a stolen Chevrolet impala. The airport was a mess so several of us who were booked and some who weren't stormed the airplane and rushed in, the airstairs were removed and the plane suddenly accelerated and took off from a taxiway, luckily the B747SP was very lightly loaded and was vastly overpowered to begin with. After takeoff passports were examined and it was decided the only place everyone could enter was Greece, so the plane went to Athens. Needless to say my planned transfer to Beirut did not happen.
On the point of trivia, does anyone have any idea what the exact date of both of these events could have been.
I do have the dates from the passport stamps. Hints: both these events were covered in aviation news at the times.
However my personal second most poignant B747SP is that of SN EP-5AD the last aircraft delivered to IranAir, but actually executed after the revolution. I was then an officer of the bank that financed the aircraft and had previously been based in Tehran. After the revolution I had to go to Tehran to execute the transaction. That was exciting in all the wrong ways! I did get out and that aircraft one perhaps the last SP in scheduled service.
The most poignant story is a 1976 one I was booked to leave on a PanAm 747SP from Beirut to Tehran (that flight does not appear in timetables of the era so I think it was a special arrangement related to IranAir's commitment to buy them, as stated above from 1979. In any evert the Beirut airport area was under fire and even getting to the airport was an excercise of our driver switching icons at roadblocks in a stolen Chevrolet impala. The airport was a mess so several of us who were booked and some who weren't stormed the airplane and rushed in, the airstairs were removed and the plane suddenly accelerated and took off from a taxiway, luckily the B747SP was very lightly loaded and was vastly overpowered to begin with. After takeoff passports were examined and it was decided the only place everyone could enter was Greece, so the plane went to Athens. Needless to say my planned transfer to Beirut did not happen.
On the point of trivia, does anyone have any idea what the exact date of both of these events could have been.
I do have the dates from the passport stamps. Hints: both these events were covered in aviation news at the times.
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Originally Posted by jbcarioca
After the revolution I had to go to Tehran to execute the transaction. That was exciting in all the wrong ways! I did get out and that aircraft one perhaps the last SP in scheduled service.
I'm not sure which year you reference here, but I'm fairly certain Syrianair was flying an SP on a Teheran - Damascus - Caracas route in the early 2000s. That may well have been the last SP in scheduled service. Also, Iran Air would be an excellent candidate for operating the last SP flight, possibly within the last 10-15 years
Great story of your departure from Beirut, by the way
A casual Google search with terms like Pan Am, Boeing 747SP, Beirut, taxiway, Athens did not divulge an news clips of your exciting departure from Beirut. Again, it was a casual search, but short of damage to the aircraft or its occupants, I'm not sure what was newsworthy about that flight.
On a separate note, I have 36 questions typed up and ready to go once jrl767's set is completed.
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All 41 questions are now completed, typed up in my typically irreverent style and ready for your consideration once everyone has worked their way through jrl767's exciting set.
Good luck solving those
Good luck solving those
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1A
ATY-MSP RC D95
MSP-ORD UA 727
ORD-SYR AA 72S
SYR-ART
1B
ART-SYR
SYR-DTW AA 707
DTW-MSP NW D10
MSP-FAR NW 72S
FAR-ATY RC CV5
the operator of the SYR<>ART flights was not Allegheny or any Allegheny Commuter affiliate carrier, nor was it Empire or Colgan
the equipment was not a Beech 99, a Swearingen Metro, or a Twin Otter, although the latter was closest in terms of size and general appearance
ATY-MSP RC D95
MSP-ORD UA 727
ORD-SYR AA 72S
SYR-ART
1B
ART-SYR
SYR-DTW AA 707
DTW-MSP NW D10
MSP-FAR NW 72S
FAR-ATY RC CV5
the operator of the SYR<>ART flights was not Allegheny or any Allegheny Commuter affiliate carrier, nor was it Empire or Colgan
the equipment was not a Beech 99, a Swearingen Metro, or a Twin Otter, although the latter was closest in terms of size and general appearance
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2A- Augusta GA (AGS) to Augusta ME (AUG); four nonstop flights, two airlines, three different aircraft types
2B- return trip AUG to AGS; three nonstop flights, three airlines (one also on the outbound trip), three different aircraft types (one also on the outbound trip)
the flights out of and into AGS were on aircraft from the same manufacturer
the flights into and out of AUG were on different airlines
2B- return trip AUG to AGS; three nonstop flights, three airlines (one also on the outbound trip), three different aircraft types (one also on the outbound trip)
the flights out of and into AGS were on aircraft from the same manufacturer
the flights into and out of AUG were on different airlines

