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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 4:18 am
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Suspending flights to the Middle East

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260124-air-france-halts-service-to-dubai-klm-suspends-middle-east-flights

I was surprised to see that AF are suspending flights to the Middle East due to the situation in with Iran.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by Braniff
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260124-air-france-halts-service-to-dubai-klm-suspends-middle-east-flights

I was surprised to see that AF are suspending flights to the Middle East due to the situation in with Iran.
Why are you surprised ?

Would you prefer they do as MH and fly over a war zone? Does MH17 ring a bell?

Then see one of their planes downed by Iranian air defense or by a US trigger happy ship (Does USS Vincennes shooting down a civilian Airbus ring another bell?).
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 5:00 am
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KLM has been extremely risk-averse, as theyve operated to TLV via Paphos since restarting last year - no other EU carrier has done this. Perhaps due to union pressure?

AF operated into TLV today as scheduled, landing just a few minutes ago.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 5:35 am
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What's ridiculous is that AF and KL have different policies.

I'm booked on AF to RUH next month (final destination DXB) with an award ticket so I'm glad to see that at least they're back to normal operations.
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Originally Posted by makin'miles
KLM has been extremely risk-averse, as theyve operated to TLV via Paphos since restarting last year - no other EU carrier has done this. Perhaps due to union pressure?

AF operated into TLV today as scheduled, landing just a few minutes ago.
I thought it was LCA, but anyway Cyprus is a logical stop for change of crew to avoid overnight in TLV ( however, I do think it is OTT)
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 6:26 am
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I just looked at Flightradar and I see an Air France flight en route to Dubai. Seems to be a big disconnect between the news and actual reality ! :-)
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Originally Posted by Braniff
I just looked at Flightradar and I see an Air France flight en route to Dubai. Seems to be a big disconnect between the news and actual reality ! :-)
Seems to be a back-and-forth situation at the moment..
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Originally Posted by Braniff
I just looked at Flightradar and I see an Air France flight en route to Dubai. Seems to be a big disconnect between the news and actual reality ! :-)
AF is taking a very southerly route - like most of the other Western carriers, LH/BA/AY which I would not hesitate to take at the moment as opposed to QR/EY and others flying over Iran.
LO is one of the few western carriers flying over Iraq today.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Braniff
I just looked at Flightradar and I see an Air France flight en route to Dubai. Seems to be a big disconnect between the news and actual reality ! :-)
The article does say that AF.has resumed service after one day, whereas KL service remains suspended.
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Old Jan 24, 2026 | 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by gkl
AF is taking a very southerly route - like most of the other Western carriers, LH/BA/AY which I would not hesitate to take at the moment as opposed to QR/EY and others flying over Iran.
LO is one of the few western carriers flying over Iraq today.
The QR flights from Europe have been doing the same southern routing over Egypt as the European carriers .
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Originally Posted by makin'miles
KLM has been extremely risk-averse, as theyve operated to TLV via Paphos since restarting last year - no other EU carrier has done this. Perhaps due to union pressure?
IB has done that, via ATH, until about two weeks ago. LH has done that on the BEY route (at least), in this case via BUD I believe, on the overnight rotation over the past couple of months.

AF crew do not overnight in either TLV or BEY - its a there and back route and crew are allowed to refuse the flight up until the day before.
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Old Jan 27, 2026 | 2:01 am
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KLM resumes Wednesday.

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Old Jan 27, 2026 | 8:07 am
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Does anyone know why Air France would resume flights much faster than KLM? AF seems to have cancelled 2 flights on Saturday, I had been looking at taking AF655 (the 1:30am departure from DXB) a couple weeks from now and was concerned about potential cancellations, it looks like they never even cancelled that flight for a single day because the cancellations started happening after it took off on Saturday and were then unsuspended by Sunday, while KLM remains suspended for now
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Old Jan 27, 2026 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by SuperEWR
Does anyone know why Air France would resume flights much faster than KLM?
Although both owned by the same holding company, they are two different airlines with two different sets of decision makers and different parameters to consider (different advisors, different employees, different unions, different government advice, difference circumstances and considerations, etc).

I think any mechanism that would bind one airline to the decisions of the other, or require both airlines to make a single decision valid for both, would be strongly resisted by both airlines.
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Old Jan 27, 2026 | 8:34 am
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Among other things, I would expect AF's interactions with the French national security apparatus to be rather much more useful than KL's interactions with the Dutch national security apparatus...
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