United mileage upgrades going dynamic
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That is simply incorrect. There are long-haul routes with lots of advance PZ. I've redeemed four of these in 2025.
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Especially if the refare is a guaranteed upgrade whereas MUA is waitlist.
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This surely isn’t what UA intended, and I’m not surprised they’re tightening the rules, but I am a bit surprised they dumped it entirely. All they really needed to do was to stipulate that the first and last legs needed to be interregional and most of the creative uses would disappear.
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How will this effect *A upgrades? One of my biggest usages was on Southeast Aisian PY trips via NRT/HND, I'd end up in B on the 7 hour flight and could upgrade for 10k. Glad I only have 40k miles left TBH.
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My lowest redemption rate so far is a 2.8cpm rate, but I see that coming to an end by the time I make my next redemption.
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RIP Mileage Upgrade Awards.
I had a good time upgrading my Y fares to Polaris for 15-20k miles with no co-pay. Curious to see what they'll be quoting now. Most likely the cash upgrade price reflected in miles, valued at 1 cent a mile so cheapest cash upgrade I ever saw at 599$ will be an easy 59k miles despite your 3k last minute TATL Y fare...
I had a good time upgrading my Y fares to Polaris for 15-20k miles with no co-pay. Curious to see what they'll be quoting now. Most likely the cash upgrade price reflected in miles, valued at 1 cent a mile so cheapest cash upgrade I ever saw at 599$ will be an easy 59k miles despite your 3k last minute TATL Y fare...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously this will be bad for anyone who currently receives outsized value from fixed-price mileage upgrades. However the flip side is that some upgrades will now be cheaper as they will match the cash price.
I can see how this would be a big loss to flyers who enjoy using fixed-price upgrades for TATL/TPAC, but this was never a useful perk to me as I don't fly paid Y on those routes.
I can see how this would be a big loss to flyers who enjoy using fixed-price upgrades for TATL/TPAC, but this was never a useful perk to me as I don't fly paid Y on those routes.
For those of you who don't get why some of us are so upset about these "niche" use cases, here's a counterpoint: I fly ORD-LHR several times each year, and I have so far had a 100% success rate in having my MileagePlus Upgrade Awards clear.
This route was exclusively operated by a high-J 763 (as is EWR-LHR), with 46 Polaris seats in a 167-seat jet, and you could pretty much guarantee enough PZ seats opening up close to departure (maybe with the exception of some extreme peak travel days like special holidays).
If you booked B class (which used to be very expensive in the past but is now priced at about $200 more each way over the cheapest non-basic economy fare), the upgrade cost was 20,000 miles with zero co-pay (although you had to pay $128 UK departure taxes on the return leg).
So for about $550 + 40,000 miles round trip, you could have an almost guaranteed upgrade from the cheapest non-basic economy fare to Polaris. That was truly exceptional value (the cheapest cash upgrade was usually around $1800 RT), and there was very little risk of being stuck in Economy Plus.
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I rely on MUA once my PlusPoints run out, usually around this time-of-year.
Going to be tough, if MUA is out of reach.
Hopefully pricing to China will finally drop to reasonable levels again as this is implemented by UA....but I am doubtful.
Not looking forward to 2026.
Going to be tough, if MUA is out of reach.

Hopefully pricing to China will finally drop to reasonable levels again as this is implemented by UA....but I am doubtful.
Not looking forward to 2026.
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The cases are myriad for anyone who travels outside of a single zone. For example, currently you can book SIN-HKG in I for 35K miles. Or, you can book something like SFO-AUS, SIN-HKG, AUS-ATL for 45K miles if SFO-AUS is in IN/I and AUS-ATL is in X. I went several years where my redemptions followed the pattern of identify a region where I need an award, then sandwich that with trips Ive already planned to take.
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, I've found zero PZ space on international long haul when I book nearly 8 months out. Also
This is where we are headed, the only debate is when we will get there.
J will be come occupied with cash paying customers, only, because they can.
Earn nd burn, or be burned.
This is just Capitalism. It sucks, but it sucks the least of the alternatives.
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Yeah midweek TPAC west coast - PVG/HKG seems to usually fully clear their upgrade list from the times I track the upgrade list.
Myself I'm 1/1 on a midweek, 0/1 on the weekend (which ended up offering a superior same-day buyup anyway if valuing at 1cpp). I guess the best we can hope for is to match the same-day buyup now?
Myself I'm 1/1 on a midweek, 0/1 on the weekend (which ended up offering a superior same-day buyup anyway if valuing at 1cpp). I guess the best we can hope for is to match the same-day buyup now?


