Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2025, La Premiere is available on to 10 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo (HND), Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
In 2025, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. AIR FRANCE LA PREMIERE 2025 Q1, Q2 AND Q3 SCHEDULE
Before US DST = Before 9th of March 2025
Between US and EU DST = Between 9th and 30th of March 2025
During EU DST = Starts 30th of March 2025
Peak Season = June, July, August
NEW YORK JFK (3X to 5X DAILY)
BEFORE US DST (9TH OF MARCH) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 13:00
AF6 13:30 - 16:10
AF8 16:30 - 19:10
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 18:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 21:30 - 10:50+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 14:00
AF6 13:30 - 17:10
AF8 16:30 - 20:10
FROM JFK
AF1 17:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 19:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 22:30 - 10:50+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
FROM JFK
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF2 08:30 - 10:30
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
Notes on the JFK operations :
THE FLAGSHIP FLIGHTS ARE AF4, AF6 AND AF8.
AF10 / AF9 OPERATE WITH LA PREMIERE FROM JUNE 2ND UNTIL OCTOBER 25TH ONLY (PEAK). AF10 OPERATES WITHOUT LA PREMIERE FROM THE 14TH OF APRIL ONWARDS, BUT ONLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 29TH OF MAY AND UNTIL THE 2ND OF JUNE, WHEN IT BECOMES DAILY).
BEFORE 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF1
AFTER 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF3
STARTING 9TH OF JUNE:
A/C OPERATING AF2, RETURNS ON AF1
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS AS AF3
THE 16:30, 17:30 AND 18:30 SLOTS ALTERNATE BETWEEN NUMBERS 1, 3 AND 5.
AF1 OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT UNTIL EU DST AND IS OPERATED WITH THE AC ARRIVING ON AF4, THEN ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT AGAIN STARTING THE 9TH OF JUNE UNTIL THE 25TH OF OCTOBER WITH THE AIRCRAFT ARRIVING ON AF2.
NOTE THAT THIS ROUTE IS HEAVILY SUBJECT TO LAST MINUTE AIRCRAFT CHANGES. EVEN ON FLAGSHIP 777 ROUTES. DOWNGRADES HAVE BEEN REPORTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
LOS ANGELES (2X to 3X Daily)
BEFORE US DST
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:05
AF24 13:20 - 16:10
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:10+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:55
AF24 13:20 - 17:20
FROM LAX
AF23 16:15 - 11:00+1
AF25 19:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON)
TO LAX
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO LAX
AF20 08:45 - 11:20
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF21 13:40 - 09:30+1
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20 +1
Notes on the LAX operations :
AF 20 / 21 ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT FROM THE 23RD OF JUNE UNTIL THE 31ST OF AUGUST. BEFORE THE 31ST OF MAY 2025, THIS FLIGHT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. IN APRIL THIS FLIGHT ONLY OPERATES ON MONDAYS, THURSDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
WASHINGTON IAD
BEFORE US DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:35 - 16:25
FROM IAD
AF51 18:40 - 08:10+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 17:15
FROM IAD
AF51 19:30 - 08:00+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO IAD
AF50 13:40 - 16:15
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:15+1
SAN FRANCISCO SFO
BEFORE US DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 13:10
FROM SFO
AF83 15:25 - 11:20+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 14:10
FROM SFO
AF83 16:25 - 11:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO SFO
AF84 10:20 - 12:50
FROM SFO
AF83 15:05 - 10:55+1
MIAMI MIA
(MAJOR SCHEDULE CHANGE)
BEFORE US DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 17:30
FROM MIA
AF99 19:50 - 10:45+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 18:30
FROM MIA
AF99 20:50 - 10:45+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASONS)
TO MIA
AF90 10:25 - 14:15
FROM MIA
AF91 16:35 - 07:35+1
Notes on the MIA operations :
THE RETURN FLIGHTS FROM MIAMI TO PARIS CDG WILL CHANGE NUMBERS AFTER THE 31ST OF MARCH. AF99 AND AF95 WILL BECOME AF91 AND AF93. THESE FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE MUCH EARLIER THAN BEFORE. LA PREMIERE IS ONLY AVAILABLE ON AF91.
SAO PAULO GRU
BEFORE EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:30 - 18:20
FROM GRU
AF459 20:30 - 11:55+1
DURING EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:10 - 17:00
FROM GRU
AF459 19:15 - 11:15+1
ABIDJAN
BEFORE EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:35 - 19:55
FROM ABJ
AF703 22:15 - 05:45+1
DURING EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:05 - 18:35
FROM ABJ
AF703 21:05 - 05:45+1
DUBAI
BEFORE EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:35 - 23:20
FROM DXB
AF655 01:30 - 06:25
DURING EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:40 - 22:35
FROM DXB
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
SINGAPORE
BEFORE EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:05 - 16:55+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:55 - 06:10+1
DURING EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:35 - 06:10+1
TOKYO HANEDA
BEFORE EU DST
TO HND
AF282 09:25 - 06:50+1 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF274 21:55 - 19:25+1
FROM HND
AF293 01:00 - 07:55 (3X WEEKLY)
AF281 09:05 - 15:55 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF279 22:50 - 05:45+1 (4X WEEKLY)
DURING EU DST
TO HND
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
FROM HND
AF293 00:05 - 08:00
Note on HND operations :
AF279 AND AF293 IS THE SAME RETURN FLIGHT OF AF274, UNDER TWO DIFFERENT CODES DUE TO THE SLOTS BEING ALLOCATED ON THE SAME DAY.
4X WEEKLY IT RETURNS BEFORE MIDNIGHT UNDER CODE AF279, THREE TIMES WEEKLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, IT RETURNS UNDER CODE AF293.
This cabin could become available on newer aircrafts and more routes in the future.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 20 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, E and Q)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated as P service) included Beirut, Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2025, La Premiere is available on to 10 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo (HND), Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
In 2025, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. AIR FRANCE LA PREMIERE 2025 Q1, Q2 AND Q3 SCHEDULE
Before US DST = Before 9th of March 2025
Between US and EU DST = Between 9th and 30th of March 2025
During EU DST = Starts 30th of March 2025
Peak Season = June, July, August
NEW YORK JFK (3X to 5X DAILY)
BEFORE US DST (9TH OF MARCH) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 13:00
AF6 13:30 - 16:10
AF8 16:30 - 19:10
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 18:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 21:30 - 10:50+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 14:00
AF6 13:30 - 17:10
AF8 16:30 - 20:10
FROM JFK
AF1 17:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 19:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 22:30 - 10:50+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
FROM JFK
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF2 08:30 - 10:30
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
Notes on the JFK operations :
THE FLAGSHIP FLIGHTS ARE AF4, AF6 AND AF8.
AF10 / AF9 OPERATE WITH LA PREMIERE FROM JUNE 2ND UNTIL OCTOBER 25TH ONLY (PEAK). AF10 OPERATES WITHOUT LA PREMIERE FROM THE 14TH OF APRIL ONWARDS, BUT ONLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 29TH OF MAY AND UNTIL THE 2ND OF JUNE, WHEN IT BECOMES DAILY).
BEFORE 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF1
AFTER 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF3
STARTING 9TH OF JUNE:
A/C OPERATING AF2, RETURNS ON AF1
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS AS AF3
THE 16:30, 17:30 AND 18:30 SLOTS ALTERNATE BETWEEN NUMBERS 1, 3 AND 5.
AF1 OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT UNTIL EU DST AND IS OPERATED WITH THE AC ARRIVING ON AF4, THEN ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT AGAIN STARTING THE 9TH OF JUNE UNTIL THE 25TH OF OCTOBER WITH THE AIRCRAFT ARRIVING ON AF2.
NOTE THAT THIS ROUTE IS HEAVILY SUBJECT TO LAST MINUTE AIRCRAFT CHANGES. EVEN ON FLAGSHIP 777 ROUTES. DOWNGRADES HAVE BEEN REPORTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
LOS ANGELES (2X to 3X Daily)
BEFORE US DST
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:05
AF24 13:20 - 16:10
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:10+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:55
AF24 13:20 - 17:20
FROM LAX
AF23 16:15 - 11:00+1
AF25 19:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON)
TO LAX
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO LAX
AF20 08:45 - 11:20
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF21 13:40 - 09:30+1
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20 +1
Notes on the LAX operations :
AF 20 / 21 ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT FROM THE 23RD OF JUNE UNTIL THE 31ST OF AUGUST. BEFORE THE 31ST OF MAY 2025, THIS FLIGHT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. IN APRIL THIS FLIGHT ONLY OPERATES ON MONDAYS, THURSDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
WASHINGTON IAD
BEFORE US DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:35 - 16:25
FROM IAD
AF51 18:40 - 08:10+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 17:15
FROM IAD
AF51 19:30 - 08:00+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO IAD
AF50 13:40 - 16:15
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:15+1
SAN FRANCISCO SFO
BEFORE US DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 13:10
FROM SFO
AF83 15:25 - 11:20+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 14:10
FROM SFO
AF83 16:25 - 11:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO SFO
AF84 10:20 - 12:50
FROM SFO
AF83 15:05 - 10:55+1
MIAMI MIA
(MAJOR SCHEDULE CHANGE)
BEFORE US DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 17:30
FROM MIA
AF99 19:50 - 10:45+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 18:30
FROM MIA
AF99 20:50 - 10:45+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASONS)
TO MIA
AF90 10:25 - 14:15
FROM MIA
AF91 16:35 - 07:35+1
Notes on the MIA operations :
THE RETURN FLIGHTS FROM MIAMI TO PARIS CDG WILL CHANGE NUMBERS AFTER THE 31ST OF MARCH. AF99 AND AF95 WILL BECOME AF91 AND AF93. THESE FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE MUCH EARLIER THAN BEFORE. LA PREMIERE IS ONLY AVAILABLE ON AF91.
SAO PAULO GRU
BEFORE EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:30 - 18:20
FROM GRU
AF459 20:30 - 11:55+1
DURING EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:10 - 17:00
FROM GRU
AF459 19:15 - 11:15+1
ABIDJAN
BEFORE EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:35 - 19:55
FROM ABJ
AF703 22:15 - 05:45+1
DURING EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:05 - 18:35
FROM ABJ
AF703 21:05 - 05:45+1
DUBAI
BEFORE EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:35 - 23:20
FROM DXB
AF655 01:30 - 06:25
DURING EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:40 - 22:35
FROM DXB
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
SINGAPORE
BEFORE EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:05 - 16:55+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:55 - 06:10+1
DURING EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:35 - 06:10+1
TOKYO HANEDA
BEFORE EU DST
TO HND
AF282 09:25 - 06:50+1 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF274 21:55 - 19:25+1
FROM HND
AF293 01:00 - 07:55 (3X WEEKLY)
AF281 09:05 - 15:55 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF279 22:50 - 05:45+1 (4X WEEKLY)
DURING EU DST
TO HND
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
FROM HND
AF293 00:05 - 08:00
Note on HND operations :
AF279 AND AF293 IS THE SAME RETURN FLIGHT OF AF274, UNDER TWO DIFFERENT CODES DUE TO THE SLOTS BEING ALLOCATED ON THE SAME DAY.
4X WEEKLY IT RETURNS BEFORE MIDNIGHT UNDER CODE AF279, THREE TIMES WEEKLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, IT RETURNS UNDER CODE AF293.
This cabin could become available on newer aircrafts and more routes in the future.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 20 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, E and Q)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated as P service) included Beirut, Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Premičre » Outlook
Feb 28, 2025 | 7:14 am
#3781
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Additionally, oddly enough, if I select the first seat, i.e. 1E, I cannot select for the second passenger 1F: only possible choice is 1A, even if 1F and 1L are not taken. I wonder if it is just a web glitch, or something related to the future configuration of First Class (travel is for December)
Feb 28, 2025 | 6:58 pm
#3782
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Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 11,210
If it takes 2 month to renew a plane for the new LaP cabin, that means only 6 planes renewed per year, correct?
So does this mean that it will take 3 entire years for the new LaP to be on all of the 18 jets/routes that Air France has LaP on?
So it would take until almost 2029 for all of the Air France LaP cabins to have been installed? AUGGGGH!
Can someone give a more precise idea than this?
So does this mean that it will take 3 entire years for the new LaP to be on all of the 18 jets/routes that Air France has LaP on?
So it would take until almost 2029 for all of the Air France LaP cabins to have been installed? AUGGGGH!
Can someone give a more precise idea than this?
Mar 1, 2025 | 10:46 am
#3783
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Mar 1, 2025 | 12:42 pm
#3784
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Franche Comté, FR, Atlanta, USA
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Posts: 633
Could my thinking be correct on this? F-GZNG has been in Abu-Dhabi since 5 January. AF has also said that they will be increasing the number of aircraft with LP. Would it not make more sense to start with these aircraft...current non-P aircraft? I believe this 777W is a non LP one and it will have been in AUH for over 2 months and ready for the launch this month. It would also make sense to rotate this aircraft across all the routes from the outset to touch the widest variety of fliers. If this has already been posted, my apologies.
Mar 1, 2025 | 2:41 pm
#3785
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 142
Could my thinking be correct on this? F-GZNG has been in Abu-Dhabi since 5 January. AF has also said that they will be increasing the number of aircraft with LP. Would it not make more sense to start with these aircraft...current non-P aircraft? I believe this 777W is a non LP one and it will have been in AUH for over 2 months and ready for the launch this month. It would also make sense to rotate this aircraft across all the routes from the outset to touch the widest variety of fliers. If this has already been posted, my apologies.
Mar 1, 2025 | 3:58 pm
#3786
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Posts: 633
Mar 1, 2025 | 4:28 pm
#3787
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Every 77W in AF's fleet except for the existing P-equipped ones has gone through a refit in the past couple of years, so any P expansion is going to be with A350s (since I don't think the 330s or 772s will get P as their last hurrah and 789s seem unlikely).
Mar 1, 2025 | 5:06 pm
#3788
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Posts: 633
Every LP staff/crew that I asked has told me not the 350 due to width.
Mar 1, 2025 | 5:54 pm
#3789
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,463
JFK AF La Premiere ground service
Some pictures of the actual ground service at JFK.
I did not took pictures at security controls but it was very smooth as we took the shortcut (VIP one).
Decent service in the P lounge at JFK.
Night flight very short ,
All in all, I estimate the AF P price is not justified on this night route. A robust J seat is optimal.
Robust champagne offer vs the official P lounge selection in Paris
Hard core sélection to get a heavy sleep 😉
Nice red wine offer
Huge lobster portion
Cosy ambiance
Onboard menu
Short dinner
Nice cabin brightness at CDG after landing
I did not took pictures at security controls but it was very smooth as we took the shortcut (VIP one).
Decent service in the P lounge at JFK.
Night flight very short ,
All in all, I estimate the AF P price is not justified on this night route. A robust J seat is optimal.
Robust champagne offer vs the official P lounge selection in Paris
Hard core sélection to get a heavy sleep 😉
Nice red wine offer
Huge lobster portion
Cosy ambiance
Onboard menu
Short dinner
Nice cabin brightness at CDG after landing
Mar 1, 2025 | 6:05 pm
#3790
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Posts: 1,848
Agreed on LP v Business on these short overnights.
Mar 1, 2025 | 6:33 pm
#3791
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Posts: 3,980
Some pictures of the actual ground service at JFK.
I did not took pictures at security controls but it was very smooth as we took the shortcut (VIP one).
Decent service in the P lounge at JFK.
Night flight very short ,
All in all, I estimate the AF P price is not justified on this night route. A robust J seat is optimal.
Robust champagne offer vs the official P lounge selection in Paris
Hard core sélection to get a heavy sleep 😉
Nice red wine offer
Huge lobster portion
Cosy ambiance
Onboard menu
Short dinner
Nice cabin brightness at CDG after landing
I did not took pictures at security controls but it was very smooth as we took the shortcut (VIP one).
Decent service in the P lounge at JFK.
Night flight very short ,
All in all, I estimate the AF P price is not justified on this night route. A robust J seat is optimal.
Robust champagne offer vs the official P lounge selection in Paris
Hard core sélection to get a heavy sleep 😉
Nice red wine offer
Huge lobster portion
Cosy ambiance
Onboard menu
Short dinner
Nice cabin brightness at CDG after landing
Last edited by happiest_at_40000; Mar 2, 2025 at 2:30 pm
Mar 1, 2025 | 7:18 pm
#3792
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So that's the answer regarding an increased LP footprint. If it can only be on 777s, every 777 in the fleet which doesn't already have P has either been stem-to-stern refit in the past couple of years or is set to be retired in the next few years.
Mar 1, 2025 | 8:14 pm
#3793
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Whatever the plan is we should be finding out soon I would think.
Mar 2, 2025 | 2:04 pm
#3794
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Per LaP staff at CDG, prob an announcement in March. Per purser on board, curtains are staying and she did say still 4 seats, FWIW.
Mar 2, 2025 | 2:19 pm
#3795
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 220
If there’s no reduction in P seats, and presumably no reduction in total seats throughout the rest of the airplane, why on earth are they hiking the prices without any end in sight?