I was replying to someone with a balance north of 4 million Avios - obviously they do care (as would I, I am sure) and felt this tied them to BA. I was just pointing out that it doesn't. Not really.

....and that then makes GGL a very exclusive tier which is what a lot of us wanted.
Whether it can then attract any additional benefits (such as escorts, cars etc.) to justify it, I've no idea.

I have been a GCH for many years now but it is extremely unlikely that I will be able to maintain this under the new system . I will likely move my spend to Skyteam given we are both PE for Life . It does annoy me that BA tries to sell this as an improvement. They must think their customers are stupid .

Any wagers on how long before BA starts selling Tier Points the way Qatar sell QPoints? It looks like a great way to make pure profit - rather than have people on the flights, make them pay cash for the status.

https://www.qatarairways.com/en-gb/P...id=ALL69126880

I don�t think the �13 per Tier Point conversion rate will work for the UK market either. Corporates are trying to lower travel spend and frequency due to it impacting their emissions targets. To boot: UK economic growth is zero.

I understand the concept behind the changes, but I feel the conversion ratio is too high for any market apart from the US. Even when I�m buying midweek last minute returns in longhaul J, �13/TP is unusually high for me and I�m a corporate traveller.

I suspect if bookings/forward loads don�t head they way BA want by Q3, we will see a fair few point promos (BA staff saying internally �we got thresholds wrong�: politically hard. saying they �drove increased customer behaviour with our promo�: High-5 from the boss).

Avios are convertible so you can move them forward and backwards as you please, and I would suggest doing so to take advantage of the arbitrage (in terms of seats open).

I've seen BA LHR-SIN on Club Suite open for redemption in AY's programme that were not available on BAEC. And of course the stuff on QRPC that BAEC can't get their hands on.

Ironically the democratization and increased appeal of Avios with uptake across OW means you're pretty much not stuck with BA's own programme in shopping around for the flights you need. Of course, if your flying is mostly short-haul you are probably best placed with BA still.

Oi�� are you trying to do us BA mods out of a job

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Fair enough!

I agree, you can happily use your Avios as you can today - luckily they haven't been devalued...

lemme guess: these promos will be for UK/US customers only. as always.

The more I look at this the more ridiculous it seems- the thresholds are way, way off. �40k (really �45-50k) just to renew GGL is not something that anyone except someone who isn�t paying for their flights personally is going to achieve easily. Even �20k for Gold is a stretch. Most FTers will need to earn �40k just to get �20k after tax. What is a normal % of post-tax income to spend on travel annually? Haven�t IAG been showing us presentation after presentation that demonstrates the rising importance of leisure travel and falling business spend? Didn�t PWC change their policy earlier this year? How many large companies insist on Y or at best WT+ for travel now? Not McKinsey, obviously!!

I am just not sure that this has been well thought-through. Plus this is exactly the moment when people are booking their holidays for the rest of the year (I just dropped a joker and 2 GUF2s on a trip to DXB this am) and they have just made BA Holidays an entirely unappealing prospect.

Count me amongst those who believe there will be a variety of TP-boosting offers coming down the line, targeted offers etc. I�ll be holding off future bookings until I get a better handle on what�s really planned.

yet!

Avios is a useful currency, but no chance of renewing BA Gold with the new requirements. But which of the OneWorld Avios programme would be the best to switch to for status?

Finnair status is also spend based (Basic: 6 Tier Points per Euro).

Iberia:
6,250 Elite Points for Platino status (Oneworld Emerald)
2,250 Elite Points for Oro status (Oneworld Sapphire)
1,100 Elite Points for Plata status (Oneworld Ruby)

Qatar:
600 QPoints for Platinum status (Oneworld Emerald)
300 QPoints for Gold status (Oneworld Sapphire)
150 QPoints for Silver status (Oneworld Ruby)

Haha, no. Just trying to "rationalize your processes."

Royal Jordanian seems pretty good to me, looks pretty straight forward.

Their calculator showing the earnings vs what they need for each tier appears to work out really well.

I'm a UK-based GGL and still haven't received any email to notify me of these "enhancements". Did all other GGLs receive an email earlier today?