Aer Lingus to cut jobs and curtail use of its A320 fleet
#17

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The cap was imposed by Fingal County Council as a condition for building T2. T2 at the time was widely regarded as a white elephant and the 32 million cap was probably thought to be pie-in-the-sky. Now we have both terminals bursting at the seams with no signs of demand easing as the Irish economy goes from strength to strength and increased opportunities from a second, longer runway.
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
There are the options to grow Aer Lingus UK in Manchester or even in Belfast (only 90 mins from DUB by motorway) or to grow the other Irish ports in ORK, SNN and NOC. EI needs to preserve the capacity to bounce back if the cap is lifted in DUB.
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
There are the options to grow Aer Lingus UK in Manchester or even in Belfast (only 90 mins from DUB by motorway) or to grow the other Irish ports in ORK, SNN and NOC. EI needs to preserve the capacity to bounce back if the cap is lifted in DUB.
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The cap was imposed by Fingal County Council as a condition for building T2. T2 at the time was widely regarded as a white elephant and the 32 million cap was probably thought to be pie-in-the-sky. Now we have both terminals bursting at the seams with no signs of demand easing as the Irish economy goes from strength to strength and increased opportunities from a second, longer runway.
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
EI had the highest ROI before the pandemic, however I think that may have been due to a lack of capital spending around the airline, from what I've heard. I have nothing to back that up though!
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The cap was imposed by Fingal County Council as a condition for building T2. T2 at the time was widely regarded as a white elephant and the 32 million cap was probably thought to be pie-in-the-sky. Now we have both terminals bursting at the seams with no signs of demand easing as the Irish economy goes from strength to strength and increased opportunities from a second, longer runway.
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
There are the options to grow Aer Lingus UK in Manchester or even in Belfast (only 90 mins from DUB by motorway) or to grow the other Irish ports in ORK, SNN and NOC. EI needs to preserve the capacity to bounce back if the cap is lifted in DUB.
I also seem to remember EI was the darling of IAG in the past when it had highest ROI. It was brought up lean, having FR competing in its backyard. What has changed? Have high Irish salaries started to take an effect?
There are the options to grow Aer Lingus UK in Manchester or even in Belfast (only 90 mins from DUB by motorway) or to grow the other Irish ports in ORK, SNN and NOC. EI needs to preserve the capacity to bounce back if the cap is lifted in DUB.
the loudest voice against it. And he was wrong. But the passenger cap was
imposed as a condition for reasons that no longer are an issue. It should be lifted. As soon as possible.
Suggesting they other airports can benefit from this is pie in the sky.
#20




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This is the silliest thing I heard in a long time. Surely the airport could have enhanced public transport options (e.g. buses require no infrastructure investment) and mandate that passengers take public transport or pay a hefty price tag for driving into the airport.
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You cant just mandate public transport only options. No airport in the world does that as far as I know. Certainly no airport without a rail link. How are you going to get between 50000 and 90000 per day in and out of the airport on buses and taxis only?.
The solution is simple. The problem that led to the cap no longer exists. So just lift the cap. But like everything in Ireland itll take years.
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High Court ruling expected at 2pm, that will be interesting
I've seen it claimed that there are enough seats on scheduled bus services to/from Dublin airport to accommodate every single passenger currently using the airport which if true destroys the planning restrictions
I've seen it claimed that there are enough seats on scheduled bus services to/from Dublin airport to accommodate every single passenger currently using the airport which if true destroys the planning restrictions
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https://www.independent.ie/business/...176300597.html
The High Court has agreed to pause the effects of a Dublin Airport passenger cap that was due to imminently affect airlines’ access to take-off and landing slots over the summer 2025 period
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The number of passenger seats available on aircraft using Dublin Airport next summer will not now be cut, after the High Court granted a stay on a decision by the aviation regulator to cap the number of take-off and landing slots during the busy peak season.
Airlines Ryanair and Aer Lingus, along with an organisation representing a number of US airlines, Airlines For America (A4A), had sought for the Irish Aviation Authority's (IAA) decision to be paused pending the outcome of judicial review proceedings they are bringing in relation to it.
At a hearing of the stay application on Friday, Aer Lingus told the court that it could lose 362,000 seats and 84m in revenue next year and as much as 130m the following year if the IAA's winter and summer cap on seat numbers remains
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/202...-seats-ruling/
Airlines Ryanair and Aer Lingus, along with an organisation representing a number of US airlines, Airlines For America (A4A), had sought for the Irish Aviation Authority's (IAA) decision to be paused pending the outcome of judicial review proceedings they are bringing in relation to it.
At a hearing of the stay application on Friday, Aer Lingus told the court that it could lose 362,000 seats and 84m in revenue next year and as much as 130m the following year if the IAA's winter and summer cap on seat numbers remains
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/202...-seats-ruling/
#26

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In any case, the cap has already been breached and the problems that the cap was intended to protect us from does not exist due to infrastructure upgrades in the meantime so it serves little or no purpose anymore.
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Anyway, good to see some sanity prevail around this, as it was truly going to hamper the entire country.
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