Can't Imagine this Ethernet v. Wifi Setup Is Better ... But
#1
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Can't Imagine this Ethernet v. Wifi Setup Is Better ... But
So currently (excuse the terrible schematic graphics) this is what I have:
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> Netgear Orbi Mesh --------->
Apple TV box wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi
FIOS's new "cable box" wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi (or maybe wifi'ed to FIOS Router)
and
WAY TOO MANY Wifi Devices (phones, laptops, etc) to Netgear Orbi via Wifi
Nobody is unhappy with speed right now.
So, pretty much EVERYTHING goes via Wifi via the Orbi.
For sake of discussion, forget the WifI aspects of the FIOS Router
Now, someone who kinda knows (emphasis on "kinda") what they're talking about sometimes suggested the following:
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> TP Link Ethernet 5-Port Ethernet Switch --------->
THEN from the switch
ethernet to
Netgear Orbi Mesh (still via Ethernet, just now with the TP Link in between)
Apple TV (now via Ethernet from a TPlink port)
FIOS's new "cable box" connected via Ethernet to Switch (alos a TP Link port)
all of which then goes to FIOS Router
And still TONS of wifi devices going to the Orbi.
I don't think I'm getting much of a benefit? Right? I mean, marginally, maybe the Apple TV (now via Ethernet) and FIOS's new "cable box" might get a small speed boost via Ethernet. But, at the end of the day, the Orbi is carrying the HUGE load of so many devices I've lost count.
Can't think of any reason I need to now "wire" the Apple TV or the FIOS box using ethernet and the TPLink? Right?
Can anyone give me a reason?
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> Netgear Orbi Mesh --------->
Apple TV box wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi
FIOS's new "cable box" wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi (or maybe wifi'ed to FIOS Router)
and
WAY TOO MANY Wifi Devices (phones, laptops, etc) to Netgear Orbi via Wifi
Nobody is unhappy with speed right now.
So, pretty much EVERYTHING goes via Wifi via the Orbi.
For sake of discussion, forget the WifI aspects of the FIOS Router
Now, someone who kinda knows (emphasis on "kinda") what they're talking about sometimes suggested the following:
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> TP Link Ethernet 5-Port Ethernet Switch --------->
THEN from the switch
ethernet to
Netgear Orbi Mesh (still via Ethernet, just now with the TP Link in between)
Apple TV (now via Ethernet from a TPlink port)
FIOS's new "cable box" connected via Ethernet to Switch (alos a TP Link port)
all of which then goes to FIOS Router
And still TONS of wifi devices going to the Orbi.
I don't think I'm getting much of a benefit? Right? I mean, marginally, maybe the Apple TV (now via Ethernet) and FIOS's new "cable box" might get a small speed boost via Ethernet. But, at the end of the day, the Orbi is carrying the HUGE load of so many devices I've lost count.
Can't think of any reason I need to now "wire" the Apple TV or the FIOS box using ethernet and the TPLink? Right?
Can anyone give me a reason?
Last edited by jsnydcsa; Oct 28, 2024 at 4:42 pm
#2


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Only reason I can think of is that it will remove the routing / bandwidth used by the Apple TV and FIOS IPTV box from the Orbi, perhaps reduce latency a bit, particularly if the WiFi spectrum utilised is crowded.
Its probably not much bandwidth, maybe 40 Mbps at most for the Apple TV, perhaps the same for the FIOS box?
If there are no issues seen on the network, I wouldnt bother. Perhaps look to a WiFi 7 w/ 6Ghz bad support instead as the future upgrade.
But, why use a switch? Doesnt the FIOS router / gateway come with 3-4 LAN ports?
Its probably not much bandwidth, maybe 40 Mbps at most for the Apple TV, perhaps the same for the FIOS box?
If there are no issues seen on the network, I wouldnt bother. Perhaps look to a WiFi 7 w/ 6Ghz bad support instead as the future upgrade.
But, why use a switch? Doesnt the FIOS router / gateway come with 3-4 LAN ports?
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Only reason I can think of is that it will remove the routing / bandwidth used by the Apple TV and FIOS IPTV box from the Orbi, perhaps reduce latency a bit, particularly if the WiFi spectrum utilised is crowded.
Its probably not much bandwidth, maybe 40 Mbps at most for the Apple TV, perhaps the same for the FIOS box?
If there are no issues seen on the network, I wouldnt bother. Perhaps look to a WiFi 7 w/ 6Ghz bad support instead as the future upgrade.
Its probably not much bandwidth, maybe 40 Mbps at most for the Apple TV, perhaps the same for the FIOS box?
If there are no issues seen on the network, I wouldnt bother. Perhaps look to a WiFi 7 w/ 6Ghz bad support instead as the future upgrade.
Thanks all!
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One other thought: does the Orbi run in router mode (as in, does it manage a LAN within the Verizon routers LAN / its own routing tables)? Or is it running purely as an Access Point or Mesh hub / node?
Does the Orbi have extra LAN ports, would plugging the Apple TV & FIOS box directly into the Orbi allow them to work wired?
(Since theyre close, you might be able to more easily hide those wires.)
If the intent of the person who made the suggestion was to move these two devices off the WiFi connection, that might address what theyre looking for
(Though personally, Id first want a full, clear explanation of why this was asked for before doing anything.)
Does the Orbi have extra LAN ports, would plugging the Apple TV & FIOS box directly into the Orbi allow them to work wired?
(Since theyre close, you might be able to more easily hide those wires.)
If the intent of the person who made the suggestion was to move these two devices off the WiFi connection, that might address what theyre looking for
(Though personally, Id first want a full, clear explanation of why this was asked for before doing anything.)
Last edited by crackjack; Oct 30, 2024 at 5:45 am
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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One other thought: does the Orbi run in router mode (as in, does it manage a LAN within the Verizon routers LAN / its own routing tables)? Or is it running purely as an Access Point or Mesh hub / node?
Does the Orbi have extra LAN ports, would plugging the Apple TV & FIOS box directly into the Orbi allow them to work wired?
(Since theyre close, you might be able to more easily hide those wires.)
If the intent of the person who made the suggestion was to move these two devices off the WiFi connection, that might address what theyre looking for
(Though personally, Id first want a full, clear explanation of why this was asked for before doing anything.)
Does the Orbi have extra LAN ports, would plugging the Apple TV & FIOS box directly into the Orbi allow them to work wired?
(Since theyre close, you might be able to more easily hide those wires.)
If the intent of the person who made the suggestion was to move these two devices off the WiFi connection, that might address what theyre looking for
(Though personally, Id first want a full, clear explanation of why this was asked for before doing anything.)
This was just some helpful neighbour who has a passing interest in IT (HE ran Ethernet cable through his wall) who said I should do this. I honestly don't trust his tech skills that much (I've seen him in action with other tech problems and it hasn't been pretty) but he made the suggestion and, only after Amazon delivered the aforementioned switch (which is now being returned unopened), did I start to think about it.
Nobody on my Orbi wifi has ever noticed any latency/lag/delay and especially NOT on the Apple TV or new FIOS "cable box" - everyone is happy. So, in an "if it ain't broke, don't [try to] fix it" sort of way, I'm not going to try and tweak things for live-action-gamer-level speed and connection reliability. Call me blissfully ignorant
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Nobody on my Orbi wifi has ever noticed any latency/lag/delay and especially NOT on the Apple TV or new FIOS "cable box" - everyone is happy. So, in an "if it ain't broke, don't [try to] fix it" sort of way, I'm not going to try and tweak things for live-action-gamer-level speed and connection reliability. Call me blissfully ignorant
#9




Join Date: Apr 2017
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So currently (excuse the terrible schematic graphics) this is what I have:
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> Netgear Orbi Mesh --------->
Apple TV box wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi
FIOS's new "cable box" wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi (or maybe wifi'ed to FIOS Router)
and
WAY TOO MANY Wifi Devices (phones, laptops, etc) to Netgear Orbi via Wifi
Nobody is unhappy with speed right now.
So, pretty much EVERYTHING goes via Wifi via the Orbi.
For sake of discussion, forget the WifI aspects of the FIOS Router
FIOS Router -----[WIRED via Ethernet] ----> Netgear Orbi Mesh --------->
Apple TV box wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi
FIOS's new "cable box" wifi'ed to Netgear Orbi (or maybe wifi'ed to FIOS Router)
and
WAY TOO MANY Wifi Devices (phones, laptops, etc) to Netgear Orbi via Wifi
Nobody is unhappy with speed right now.
So, pretty much EVERYTHING goes via Wifi via the Orbi.
For sake of discussion, forget the WifI aspects of the FIOS Router
(Now, would I do it that way? Probably not. But without seeing where everything is positions and knowing any restrictions that might be in place with where certain equipment needs to be placed, I'm also not going to say I'd never do it that way myself either. I'm also basing that on the idea that the FIOS "router" is probably not really a router, if it is, then yeah, I'd make a lot of changes (my FIOS service, it's just a ONT and you need a router after that).)
#10
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To me, the highlighted part is the important part. If nobody's complaining about it, and you're not seeing any obvious issues with speed, it's not worth the effort to fix. That's especially true if you're not confident in messing with this stuff on your own. There's a lot to be said for "it works, don't mess with it".

