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GUIDE to redeeming AA miles for Japan Air Lines awards:
  • JL awards are now shown show and can be booked on aa.com
  • AwardNexus (free to FlyerTalk members for basic searches) will also reveal, and (for a fee) alert, on JL award seats
  • AA awards on JL must be MileSAAver (AAnytime awards are only available on AA marketed and AA operated flights)
  • There are no onerous fuel or carrier-imposed surcharges using AAdvantage miles for awards using JL
  • JL initially releases awards to AAvantage members 330 days out at 10:00 am JST time (18:00 PDT, 17:00 PST). Note, JL award inventory is released to members of other FFPs 360 day out and updates award and revenue seat award availability once daily ~09:30-12:00 Pacific time
  • JL may release 0-2 F and 0-4 J award seats initially; until taken they remain available up to three months from release
  • No further seats are likely to be released until shortly (~14 days) prior to scheduled departure - but the last F seat will be retained for sale, not released into award inventory
  • No stopovers are allowed on AA awards. Connections may be as long as 23:59.
  • Only JAL Mileage Bank members can waitlist awards
  • All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments); these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
  • If JL & QF are showing availability, but AA can't see it, try calling the Australia AA center as it may be a point-of-sale issue

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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by jacobus
Usually how far in advance does AA release JAL Award tickets?
AA doesnt release them, JL does. You can book JL tickets on AA.com up to 331 days in advance....
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 9:29 am
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If it helps anyone, 1 seat in F just opened up for JL 6 on 1/28/2024.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by mizzou miles
AA doesnt release them, JL does. You can book JL tickets on AA.com up to 331 days in advance....
Thank you. I am trying to look for 2 seats for next year. Appreciate the response
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by jacobus
Thank you. I am trying to look for 2 seats for next year. Appreciate the response
Just do a calendar search for premium awards. If you spot 60k, that's business, while 80k is first.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by injust
If it helps anyone, 1 seat in F just opened up for JL 6 on 1/28/2024.
Wasn't it A350-1000? I wonder when it starts flying that route.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by jacobus
Thank you. I am trying to look for 2 seats for next year. Appreciate the response
One seat is an albino squirrel. Two seats is a purple squirrel.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Raralith
Hypothetically, if HND-LAX-XXX opens up on award, and I don't want to continue the second leg because my end destination is LAX (i.e., skip LAX-XXX), is anything bad going to happen?
Correct me if I am wrong, but you aren't going to find HND-LAX-XXX without HND-LAX. If you find HND-LAX-XXX without finding HND-LAX, HND-LAX-XXX is phantom.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by view-with-a-room
Correct me if I am wrong, but you aren't going to find HND-LAX-XXX without HND-LAX. If you find HND-LAX-XXX without finding HND-LAX, HND-LAX-XXX is phantom.
Theoretically there could be married segment issues but I've never actually seen it be the issue with JL.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 9:53 pm
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New to the award space and need ideas for a Y award on HND to SEA either direct or multicity booking. Was thinking of HND-HNL and HNL-SEA or HND-LAX and LAX-SEA for March last week. I know it's one of the best season.

Can I wait for the last minute award opening or is it better to book something now itself ?
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by newplay
New to the award space and need ideas for a Y award on HND to SEA either direct or multicity booking. Was thinking of HND-HNL and HNL-SEA or HND-LAX and LAX-SEA for March last week. I know it's one of the best season.

Can I wait for the last minute award opening or is it better to book something now itself ?
I dont know about Y award space, but my experience with JAL F/J is to jump on it when you find it rather than wait. HND-LAX-SEA is 35k in Y on 3/25; between 51k and 61k the rest of the week.
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by newplay
New to the award space and need ideas for a Y award on HND to SEA either direct or multicity booking. Was thinking of HND-HNL and HNL-SEA or HND-LAX and LAX-SEA for March last week. I know it's one of the best season.

Can I wait for the last minute award opening or is it better to book something now itself ?
AA offers free cancellations on all award tickets. You can always book whatever is available now then cancel it later on and rebook something better if it opens up.
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 1:17 pm
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Greetings from the Royal Park Hotel at HND. My room is a bit on the small side, and I'm hungry because they had already stopped serving food by the time I checked in, but other than that,I'm pleased with the hotel.

I flew in on an MU a350 from PVG in Y, which was surprisingly great.

Immigration and customs at HND took a long time though...not because of lines, but because there was a shocking number or bureaucracies that almost made China immigration seem civilized by comparison.

I'm a little bit regretful of not sticking with my original AA flights from PVG to JAX because the schedule was super convenient, but now I have my JL flight in business class instead.

I'll opine later about whether or not the HND transit was worth the hassles, but I've always enjoyed JL in the past.

Business class on the AA itinerary would have set me back 450k miles (v 35k in economy). Obviously, 60k miles for JL is a more attractive deal, and there were lots of flights to choose from starting about 3 weeks in.

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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
Greetings from the Royal Park Hotel at HND. My room is a bit on the small side, and I'm hungry because they had already stopped serving food by the time I checked in, but other than that,I'm pleased with the hotel.

I flew in on an MU a350 from PVG in Y, which was surprisingly great.

Immigration and customs at HND took a long time though...not because of lines, but because there was a shocking number or bureaucracies that almost made China immigration seem civilized by comparison.

I'm a little bit regretful of not sticking with my original AA flights from PVG to JAX because the schedule was super convenient, but now I have my JL flight in business class instead.

I'll opine later about whether or not the HND transit was worth the hassles, but I've always enjoyed JL in the past.

Business class on the AA itinerary would have set me back 450k miles (v 35k in economy). Obviously, 60k miles for JL is a more attractive deal, and there were lots of flights to choose from starting about 3 weeks in.

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Hotel was pleasant when I was there recently. and not too pricey either.. Not a huge fan of JL J as their 789 seats are so old and oddly low to the ground and then I dont like Apex seats but still 60K Vs. 450K, well for me wouldnt even be a realistic consideration as I dont have that many miles. I couldnt imagine paying 450K for a ticket of any kind. I gotta catch up to you all on here and get me some more miles
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 9:06 am
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Essentially, my wife and I will be flying to Japan from Austin from Feb 3-11. I have premium economy/economy awards booked.

But now I have the miles to get business awards.

I’ve never flown business long-haul and I don’t want to miss the opportunity.

It seems when I’ve looked the past few days, there has been some flights from various places that have a seat or two available at the 60k miles rate. But few and far between, and not on the dates I need.

I know I’ve read that this is common with JAL. But…is there any way I can be proactive on this? I’ve been checking obsessively. It seems like JAL awards aren’t available on Expertflyer, or I would set up alerts there.

Specifically looking to book from Austin to Tokyo on Feb 3 and ideally Osaka to Austin on Feb 11
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by bwaltens

I know Ive read that this is common with JAL. Butis there any way I can be proactive on this? Ive been checking obsessively. It seems like JAL awards arent available on Expertflyer, or I would set up alerts there.

Specifically looking to book from Austin to Tokyo on Feb 3 and ideally Osaka to Austin on Feb 11
Not much you can do other than keep checking. You probably won't see much movement until about 2 weeks before departure. It goes without saying but check just the gateways to TYO (i.e. DFW-HND, LAX-HND, etc.) and go from there if you find something.
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