CX748: JNB-HKG in First – Mini Observation
#1
Original Poster


Join Date: Dec 2000
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM, AC SE 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,394
CX748: JNB-HKG in First – Mini Observation
Just completed my 3rd segment of RTW in First class. Flew on CX 748 JNB-HKG in First Class on my way to Bali (again) for a quick R&R and then onwards home to Toronto for Xmas. I was delighted to see that CX is bringing back First on this route (only for Nov,Dec, Jan months according to the FA).
Anyways, just a few observations on CX flight 748 from JNB:
(1) I cannot believe how many people are on this Boeing 747! According to the FA, the flight is completely full in Business and Economy, and I was leaving mid week!
(2) First Class, fortunately, was half full with 6 of the 12 seats occupied.
(3) I was seated in 2A – now my favourite seat!
(4) Krug Champagne is back! Had 2 glasses…
(5) Caviar and Salmon was served from the cart– had two portions this time! The Caviar wasn’t as good.
(6) Sheena, one of the 3 FA’s looking after first Class was absolutely amazing! It just showed how much one person can make the experience so much better. She anticipated all of my needs. She was from Malaysia.. and did I mentioned she was quite a hottie!
(7) There must have been some cutback in meals – There were only four main courses, 2 selections of snacks, and 2 Breakfast selections. See full menu below. There was no dim Sum option..
(8) I was quite disappointed in the quality of the meal – I had the Stir Fried Beef with Steamed rice and Pok Choy – The Beef was really chewy (like those cheap Chinese take away meals), and the portion was tiny (could have had 2 more servings).
(9) Orange Juice was from Concentrate and not Fresh
(10) No Croissants for Breakfast!
(11) I think the pillow is now bigger than the ones from last year – I could be wrong.
Overall, a great flight on CX other than for the catering… Looking forward to my next trip HKG-SFO trip in F on Sunday!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Menu:
LUNCH (Nov, Dec, Jan)
Caviar and Balik Salmon Delight:
Caviar and Balik Salmon “Tsar Nicolaj” served with Warm New Potatoes and Crčme Fraiche
Soup:
Crem of Carrot and Coriander Soup
Salad:
Seasonal Salad with Crispy Bacon, Grilled Zucchini, Leek and Shaved Parmesan served with Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinaigrette
Main Course:
1) Pan Fried Pork Fillet with Citrus Demi-glace, Potatoes and Roasted Vegetables
2) Stir-fried Beef with pineapple and Onion, Steamed Rice and Pak Choy
3) Grilled Kinglip with Tomato, Herbs, and Olives, Boiled Potatoes and Vegetables
4) Mushroom Risotto with Cherry Tomato and Parmesan Cheese
Cheese Board
Dessert Selection:
1) Raspberry Ice Cream served with Pistachio and Chocolate Wafer
2) White Chocolate Amaretto Pudding served with Vanilla Ice Cream
3) Pineapple Upside Down Cake with mixed Berry Compote and Mascarpone
Bread Basket: Assorted Bread and Rolls
Tea and Coffee
Pralines and Cookies
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Refreshment
1) Noodles in Soup with Prawn Wontons and Pak Choy
2) Croque Monsieur with Ham and Cheese
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BREAKFAST
Juice Selection
Fresh Seasonal Fruit
Yoghurt Selection
Cereals: Corn Flakes, Muesli or Rice Crispies
Main Courses:
1) Eggs – Freshly scrambled, fried or boiled
2) Congee with Salted Pork and Century Egg
Accompaniments:
Grilled Pork Sausage and Back Bacon, Cheese and Potato Cake, Grilled Tomato and Boiled Whole Mushrooms
Bread Basket: Assorted Bread, Rolls, and Fresh Toast
Anyways, just a few observations on CX flight 748 from JNB:
(1) I cannot believe how many people are on this Boeing 747! According to the FA, the flight is completely full in Business and Economy, and I was leaving mid week!
(2) First Class, fortunately, was half full with 6 of the 12 seats occupied.
(3) I was seated in 2A – now my favourite seat!
(4) Krug Champagne is back! Had 2 glasses…
(5) Caviar and Salmon was served from the cart– had two portions this time! The Caviar wasn’t as good.
(6) Sheena, one of the 3 FA’s looking after first Class was absolutely amazing! It just showed how much one person can make the experience so much better. She anticipated all of my needs. She was from Malaysia.. and did I mentioned she was quite a hottie!
(7) There must have been some cutback in meals – There were only four main courses, 2 selections of snacks, and 2 Breakfast selections. See full menu below. There was no dim Sum option..
(8) I was quite disappointed in the quality of the meal – I had the Stir Fried Beef with Steamed rice and Pok Choy – The Beef was really chewy (like those cheap Chinese take away meals), and the portion was tiny (could have had 2 more servings).
(9) Orange Juice was from Concentrate and not Fresh
(10) No Croissants for Breakfast!
(11) I think the pillow is now bigger than the ones from last year – I could be wrong.
Overall, a great flight on CX other than for the catering… Looking forward to my next trip HKG-SFO trip in F on Sunday!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Menu:
LUNCH (Nov, Dec, Jan)
Caviar and Balik Salmon Delight:
Caviar and Balik Salmon “Tsar Nicolaj” served with Warm New Potatoes and Crčme Fraiche
Soup:
Crem of Carrot and Coriander Soup
Salad:
Seasonal Salad with Crispy Bacon, Grilled Zucchini, Leek and Shaved Parmesan served with Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinaigrette
Main Course:
1) Pan Fried Pork Fillet with Citrus Demi-glace, Potatoes and Roasted Vegetables
2) Stir-fried Beef with pineapple and Onion, Steamed Rice and Pak Choy
3) Grilled Kinglip with Tomato, Herbs, and Olives, Boiled Potatoes and Vegetables
4) Mushroom Risotto with Cherry Tomato and Parmesan Cheese
Cheese Board
Dessert Selection:
1) Raspberry Ice Cream served with Pistachio and Chocolate Wafer
2) White Chocolate Amaretto Pudding served with Vanilla Ice Cream
3) Pineapple Upside Down Cake with mixed Berry Compote and Mascarpone
Bread Basket: Assorted Bread and Rolls
Tea and Coffee
Pralines and Cookies
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Refreshment
1) Noodles in Soup with Prawn Wontons and Pak Choy
2) Croque Monsieur with Ham and Cheese
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BREAKFAST
Juice Selection
Fresh Seasonal Fruit
Yoghurt Selection
Cereals: Corn Flakes, Muesli or Rice Crispies
Main Courses:
1) Eggs – Freshly scrambled, fried or boiled
2) Congee with Salted Pork and Century Egg
Accompaniments:
Grilled Pork Sausage and Back Bacon, Cheese and Potato Cake, Grilled Tomato and Boiled Whole Mushrooms
Bread Basket: Assorted Bread, Rolls, and Fresh Toast
#2
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-PP, HL-DM, MR-LTP, HY-LTG
Posts: 26,017
Originally Posted by ACfly
...
(7) There must have been some cutback in meals – There were only four main courses, 2 selections of snacks, and 2 Breakfast selections. See full menu below. There was no dim Sum option..
(8) I was quite disappointed in the quality of the meal – I had the Stir Fried Beef with Steamed rice and Pok Choy – The Beef was really chewy (like those cheap Chinese take away meals), and the portion was tiny (could have had 2 more servings).
(9) Orange Juice was from Concentrate and not Fresh
....
Overall, a great flight on CX other than for the catering… Looking forward to my next trip HKG-SFO trip in F on Sunday!
...
(7) There must have been some cutback in meals – There were only four main courses, 2 selections of snacks, and 2 Breakfast selections. See full menu below. There was no dim Sum option..
(8) I was quite disappointed in the quality of the meal – I had the Stir Fried Beef with Steamed rice and Pok Choy – The Beef was really chewy (like those cheap Chinese take away meals), and the portion was tiny (could have had 2 more servings).
(9) Orange Juice was from Concentrate and not Fresh
....
Overall, a great flight on CX other than for the catering… Looking forward to my next trip HKG-SFO trip in F on Sunday!
...
OJ is only fresh out of HKG, and sometimes from BKK or SIN. It has never been fresh out of JNB, or even JFK!
Hope the offerings are better out of HKG next time.
#3
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: I'm out of here.
Posts: 281
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
No, there doesn't seem to be any cutback from my point of view. Catering is not the best out of JNB, especially the Asian selections. From most foreign stations, CX actually hires the services of a local Chinese restaurant to prepare its Chinese meals. I don't think JNB has that option. Last time I flew this route, the J and F class had the EXACT same menu.
OJ is only fresh out of HKG, and sometimes from BKK or SIN. It has never been fresh out of JNB, or even JFK!
Hope the offerings are better out of HKG next time.
OJ is only fresh out of HKG, and sometimes from BKK or SIN. It has never been fresh out of JNB, or even JFK!
Hope the offerings are better out of HKG next time.
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-PP, HL-DM, MR-LTP, HY-LTG
Posts: 26,017
Originally Posted by hongkongtraveller
Dosen't look like ACfly's going to get caviar on HKG-SFo though, due to recent cutbacks.
#5
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX, SIN
Posts: 474
Originally Posted by hongkongtraveller
Dosen't look like ACfly's going to get caviar on HKG-SFo though, due to recent cutbacks.
caviar is back on this route, although the quality is very poor. i was told by the purser that the caviar is from france. the menu used to say the caviar is oscietre from iran, now it just says 'caviar'
#6
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-PP, HL-DM, MR-LTP, HY-LTG
Posts: 26,017
Originally Posted by miki13331
caviar is back on this route, although the quality is very poor. i was told by the purser that the caviar is from france. the menu used to say the caviar is oscietre from iran, now it just says 'caviar'
#7
Original Poster


Join Date: Dec 2000
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM, AC SE 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,394
no SAA 1st Class lounge access at JNB
BTW, I forgot to mention that CX uses the British Airways lounge at JNB for both First and Business - in my opinion, not a great lounge at all.
I had hoped to use South African Airways Cynad First Class Lounge, since CX code shared with SAA, but that wasn't the case...
I'll report back on whether or not Caviar is served on the HKG-SFO route later today
I had hoped to use South African Airways Cynad First Class Lounge, since CX code shared with SAA, but that wasn't the case...
I'll report back on whether or not Caviar is served on the HKG-SFO route later today
#8
Join Date: Jan 2002
Programs: CX MPO GO,AC Aeroplan
Posts: 183
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
No, there doesn't seem to be any cutback from my point of view. Catering is not the best out of JNB, especially the Asian selections. From most foreign stations, CX actually hires the services of a local Chinese restaurant to prepare its Chinese meals. I don't think JNB has that option. Last time I flew this route, the J and F class had the EXACT same menu.
OJ is only fresh out of HKG, and sometimes from BKK or SIN. It has never been fresh out of JNB, or even JFK!
Hope the offerings are better out of HKG next time.
OJ is only fresh out of HKG, and sometimes from BKK or SIN. It has never been fresh out of JNB, or even JFK!
Hope the offerings are better out of HKG next time.
For the oscietre Cavier , seems it really run out of stock, remember a couple of months ago they even offer goose liver pate iso Cavier
#9
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oradell
Programs: AA PLT 3.6...MM-gonna take LONGER to hit 4MM for those VIPs soon!
Posts: 761
Just count yourself lucky, ACfly, to fly CX JNB-HKG while they offer F. I flew it roundtrip last July weeks after the change to a 2 class A340. While CX J new flat seat and service is loads nicer than my usual (AA J on 767-300), I missed the flat and LEVEL F seat, extra space, and much more individualized F service. I noticed a lower quality to the catering exJNB vs exHKG. I agree about the BA Terraces Lounge in JNB- guess it's a OW arrangement when you'd think CX would contract with SA for lounge use since they codeshare.
#10
Original Poster


Join Date: Dec 2000
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM, AC SE 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,394
HKG-SFO - Yes to Caviar service
Just got off the HKG-SFO flight, and indeed they served Caviar and Salmon. Krug Champagne is also back. The food was amazing on this flight with 6 different Entrees! (Menu Below). First class was quite full with 11 of 12 seats occupied. Still had my favorite 2A seat on this 747-400 service. I had my dinner 4 hours into the flight with all of the toppings.
I would conclude that CX does not cut back on its food offering, just that the catering out of JNB is really poor.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I would conclude that CX does not cut back on its food offering, just that the catering out of JNB is really poor.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
CX 872 HKG-SFO [Dec]
Supper:
Caviar and Balik Salmon Delight:
Caviar and Balik Salmon”Tsar Nicolaj” served with Warm New Potatoes and Crčme Fraiche
Light Options:
1) Mushroom Cream Soup served with mini Garlic Baguette
2) Grilled Vegetable Salad with balsamic Vinegar Dressing
Main Courses:
1) Braised Veal Shank with Saffron Gnocchi, Broad Bean with Truffle Sauce
2) Spinach and Ricotta Ravioli with Tomato Basil Sauce
Hong Kong Favorite:
1) Braised Spotted Garoupa with Winter Melon and Red Dates, Steamed Rice and Sti-fried Pak Choy *
2) Noodles in Soup with Shrimp Wontons
3) Plain Congee or Congee with Abalone and Meat Balls served with Pan-fried Shredded Chicken Pancakes with Ham and Spring Onions*
4) Braised Bean Curd Stick with Enoki Mushrooms and White Mushrooms Shanghainese Noodles and Pak Choy
Snacks:
1) Asparagus and Artichoke Quiche
2) Salad served with Balsamic Vinegar Dressing
Cheese Board
Dessert:
1) Sago Soup with Coconut
2) Ice Cream
Bread Basket
Assorted Bread and Rolls
Tea and Coffee
Pralines and Cookies
A special selection from the Hong Kong Jockey Club’s exclusive Happy Valley restaurant
- - - -- - - - - - - - - -- -
LIGHT MEAL:
Juice Selection
Appetizer: Fresh Seasonal Fruit
Main Courses:
1) Eggs – Freshly scrambled, Fried or Boiled
2) Assorted Dim Sum
3) Leek Quiche
ACCOMPANIMENTS:
Grilled Breakfast Steak and Veal Sausages, Pan-fried Potato Cake with Cheddar, Vine Ripened Tomato and Sauteed Fresh Mushrooms
BREAD BASKET
Assorted Breads, Rolls and Fresh toast served with Preserves, Honey and Butter
TEA and COFEE
WINE LIST
Krug Grande Curvee Champagne
WHITE WINE:
Franciscan Oakville Estate Chardonnay (2001)
Vincent Giardin Meursault, Vieilles Vignes (2001) – winner of cellars in the sky
RED WINE:
Gervey Chambertin La Justice 1995
Foley Santa Maira Valley Pinot Noir (2001)
Chateau Bramaire-Ducru 1996, 4eme Cru Classe
PORT
Ramos Pinto Quinta du Ervamoira 10 yr old Tawny Port
APERITIFS and Cocktails:
Campari – Marinti Rosso – Martini Extra Dry – Harveys Bristol Cream Sweet Sherry – La Ina Dry Sherry – Gordons Dry Gin – Stolichnaya Russian Vodka – Bloody Mary – Screwdriver
WHISKIES
Chivas Regal 12 years old
Johnnie Walker Blue Label
Glenfiddich Ancient Reserve Single Malt Whisky
Gentleman Jack Bourbon
Crown Royal Canadian Whisky
COGNAC:
Hennesey XO
LIQUERS:
Grand Marnier
Cointreau
Drambuie
Kohlua
Bailey’s Irish Cream
Supper:
Caviar and Balik Salmon Delight:
Caviar and Balik Salmon”Tsar Nicolaj” served with Warm New Potatoes and Crčme Fraiche
Light Options:
1) Mushroom Cream Soup served with mini Garlic Baguette
2) Grilled Vegetable Salad with balsamic Vinegar Dressing
Main Courses:
1) Braised Veal Shank with Saffron Gnocchi, Broad Bean with Truffle Sauce
2) Spinach and Ricotta Ravioli with Tomato Basil Sauce
Hong Kong Favorite:
1) Braised Spotted Garoupa with Winter Melon and Red Dates, Steamed Rice and Sti-fried Pak Choy *
2) Noodles in Soup with Shrimp Wontons
3) Plain Congee or Congee with Abalone and Meat Balls served with Pan-fried Shredded Chicken Pancakes with Ham and Spring Onions*
4) Braised Bean Curd Stick with Enoki Mushrooms and White Mushrooms Shanghainese Noodles and Pak Choy
Snacks:
1) Asparagus and Artichoke Quiche
2) Salad served with Balsamic Vinegar Dressing
Cheese Board
Dessert:
1) Sago Soup with Coconut
2) Ice Cream
Bread Basket
Assorted Bread and Rolls
Tea and Coffee
Pralines and Cookies
A special selection from the Hong Kong Jockey Club’s exclusive Happy Valley restaurant
- - - -- - - - - - - - - -- -
LIGHT MEAL:
Juice Selection
Appetizer: Fresh Seasonal Fruit
Main Courses:
1) Eggs – Freshly scrambled, Fried or Boiled
2) Assorted Dim Sum
3) Leek Quiche
ACCOMPANIMENTS:
Grilled Breakfast Steak and Veal Sausages, Pan-fried Potato Cake with Cheddar, Vine Ripened Tomato and Sauteed Fresh Mushrooms
BREAD BASKET
Assorted Breads, Rolls and Fresh toast served with Preserves, Honey and Butter
TEA and COFEE
WINE LIST
Krug Grande Curvee Champagne
WHITE WINE:
Franciscan Oakville Estate Chardonnay (2001)
Vincent Giardin Meursault, Vieilles Vignes (2001) – winner of cellars in the sky
RED WINE:
Gervey Chambertin La Justice 1995
Foley Santa Maira Valley Pinot Noir (2001)
Chateau Bramaire-Ducru 1996, 4eme Cru Classe
PORT
Ramos Pinto Quinta du Ervamoira 10 yr old Tawny Port
APERITIFS and Cocktails:
Campari – Marinti Rosso – Martini Extra Dry – Harveys Bristol Cream Sweet Sherry – La Ina Dry Sherry – Gordons Dry Gin – Stolichnaya Russian Vodka – Bloody Mary – Screwdriver
WHISKIES
Chivas Regal 12 years old
Johnnie Walker Blue Label
Glenfiddich Ancient Reserve Single Malt Whisky
Gentleman Jack Bourbon
Crown Royal Canadian Whisky
COGNAC:
Hennesey XO
LIQUERS:
Grand Marnier
Cointreau
Drambuie
Kohlua
Bailey’s Irish Cream
#11
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,011
Just curious, but does the Jockey Club promotion come hand-in-glove with a special menu design (like they did for Yung Kee and Spring Moon)? <Fingers crossed the answer is NO but have sneaking suspicion that will turn out to be wishful thinking...>
#13
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
Originally Posted by B-HXB
Just curious, but does the Jockey Club promotion come hand-in-glove with a special menu design
Last edited by christep; Dec 20, 2004 at 2:30 am
#14
Original Poster


Join Date: Dec 2000
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM, AC SE 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,394
Originally Posted by B-HXB
Just curious, but does the Jockey Club promotion come hand-in-glove with a special menu design (like they did for Yung Kee and Spring Moon)? <Fingers crossed the answer is NO but have sneaking suspicion that will turn out to be wishful thinking...>
The menu was shorter (not like the longer regular ones - I almost thought it was Business class menu until I read the front page), and it had in the front of it a small Chinese painting of a temple (I think)... (I didn't keep the menu). The cover design of the menu was exactly the same as the Business ones.
I had the Veal (Chinese style) which was the Jockey Club promotion, and it was absolutely delicious.. That being said, my flight on my earlier flight from HKG to Bali on Business class, I had the beef spareribs (also from the Jockey Cllub), and it was the most fatty, unpleasant piece of meat I ever had. I didnt touch the meal.. Very dissapointing.
#15




Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Seat 1A
Programs: Non-status paid F/J (best value for $$$)
Posts: 4,141
Originally Posted by miki13331
caviar is back on this route, although the quality is very poor. i was told by the purser that the caviar is from france. the menu used to say the caviar is oscietre from iran, now it just says 'caviar'

