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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by AceReport
I'm noticing that on some upcoming dates AC is wet-leasing from Omni Air International (OY that I def had to look up) from YVR-OGG (AC 2413 on 3/8 is one). Any thoughts/information on if UA will credit those flights as if they are flown on AC metal?

Edit: assuming 014 stock
They've been doing it for months due to the MAX grounding. You should get credit as an AC flight; I haven't heard otherwise.
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 2:34 am
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LH Group Economy light" = "Basic Economy"?

I often fly within Europe on LH Group (LH/LX/OS/SN), typically in their cheapest fare family, called Economy Light.

I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.

Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says
International Basic Economy tickets on Air Canada, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS are ineligible for Premier qualifying flights. International Basic Economy may be booked in various fare classes.
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by airoli
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
Probably. The only possible out would be it's not "international" in the US sense, but Economy Light is the European term for BE, and UA BE fares book as Economy Light.
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by airoli
I often fly within Europe on LH Group (LH/LX/OS/SN), typically in their cheapest fare family, called Economy Light.

I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.

Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says


So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
I would MP and ask just in case. I can say that for Air Canada, any segment that isn't within Canada will be considered international (including US). But that's not true for every airline; an example AA considers a US-Canada segment domestic.
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Old Jan 18, 2020 | 8:26 pm
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There was a recent post about whether it is better to buy a CM flight on a 016 or a 230 ticket. Recently I was able to compare both due to unforeseen events. Even though I am AU based my father lives @ GYE and I go there on a regular basis because he is quite elderly. I travel there on a regular basis from LAX, SFO or SLC and as I have been a loyal 1K for 21 years I always try to book on *A mostly on 016 tickets but occasionally on 230 tickets. So I had scheduled a long time ago before the MP changes were announced SLC-GYE (21 Dec 2019) and GYE-SLC (12 Jan 2020). Due to family business I had to fly GYE-MIA-GYE (5 Jan outbound 7 Jan inbound) at the last minute. So this is what I found.

GYE-PTY 016 ticket D class booked, Base miles: 1,060; Bonus miles: 1,272; Total miles: 2,332; PQP: 212.

PTY-GYE 230 ticket D class booked; Base miles and total miles: 773; PQP: 155

The 230 ticket cost $810 + tax which gives a poor rate of return of 0.19 PQP/$

Even worse was the GYE-MIA leg on a 202 ticket which was $1,361 + taxes and gave 425 PQP or a return of 0.31 PQP/$
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Old Jan 18, 2020 | 9:00 pm
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OK, I'm confused after reading 30+ pages out of the 198 on this forum. Wife and I booked Business Class D fares on Singapore Airlines and getting credit on United. I understand the basic formula of: MileagePlus partner Premier qualifying point(s) = Award miles / 6 but I'm confused by footnote 7 which states:
Award miles are your base award miles earning plus your fare class bonus award miles earning, if eligible. Premier bonus miles earned are not included within this calculation and are ineligible for Premier qualifying points accrual.
Are there any class bonus for SQ D fares or do I just take total miles and divide by 6?

Update: I had posted this in the wrong thread and that's why I was confused. The FAQ here makes it clear that there is no bonus. Thanks hirohito888.

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Old Jan 18, 2020 | 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by rmc1
OK, I'm confused after reading 30+ pages out of the 198 on this forum. Wife and I booked Business Class D fares on Singapore Airlines and getting credit on United. I understand the basic formula of: MileagePlus partner Premier qualifying point(s) = Award miles / 6 but I'm confused by footnote 7 which states:

Are there any class bonus for SQ D fares or do I just take total miles and divide by 6?
SQ D fares do not have any fare class bonus, so just take total miles divided by 6.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 8:01 am
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Thank God this was advertised as a simpler way to earn.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by airoli
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
Or is it referring to the JV TATL basic economy tickets (the ones where the fare ends in LGT), not intra-Europe economy light? Come back and tell us!

Originally Posted by kevflyer
I would MP and ask just in case. I can say that for Air Canada, any segment that isn't within Canada will be considered international (including US). But that's not true for every airline; an example AA considers a US-Canada segment domestic.
Do domestic AC flights that earn 25% RDM now earn a segment as well? (they didnt use to)

I dont think I ll have a problem reaching 18k PQP for less than half actual money spent, but 54 segments may be harder to do, so every segment counts in 2020 for me!
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
...Do domestic AC flights that earn 25% RDM now earn a segment as well? (they didnt use to)..
Any flight that earns RDMs get a PQF credit now..
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Any flight that earns RDMs get a PQF credit now..
Thats not true. Basic Economy is specifically excluded from earning PQF. Until we see an example, I have to assume that includes domestic, European, TATL, and probably AC Tango fares also.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 1:50 pm
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Thank God this was advertised as a simpler way to earn.
I think you can still call this simpler, for most folks, that fly principally to get somewhere BUT it has a complex "hack" for those willing to go there.

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Originally Posted by rankourabu
Do domestic AC flights that earn 25% RDM now earn a segment as well? (they didnt use to)
Domestic AC flights should count for PQF - at least that's what the confirmation email and "Manage trip" tells me (example below).
This is a future reservation but would be nice to hear about an actual report that PQF is credited.


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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by AceReport
I'm noticing that on some upcoming dates AC is wet-leasing from Omni Air International (OY that I def had to look up) from YVR-OGG (AC 2413 on 3/8 is one). Any thoughts/information on if UA will credit those flights as if they are flown on AC metal?

Edit: assuming 014 stock
this flight operated by Omni is habitually late and often cancels - just keep that in mind when booking connections and planning your trip
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 12:14 pm
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Hi all! First post! Have been lurking for a few weeks (unfortunately was much of a miler when I lived overseas).

I have a pretty simply question about PQPs earned on partner airlines.

What is considered a good PQP to dollar ratio? I recently found a flight that will give be 3800 PQP for USD 785 (including taxes and fees). Or, 4.8 (+/-) PQP per dollar. Good?

BTW, the flight is LGA to YYZ, YYZ to GRU (AC flights) GRU to ZRH and ZRH to JFK (Swissair).

Thanks
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