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Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal {Archive}
#391


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I'm noticing that on some upcoming dates AC is wet-leasing from Omni Air International (OY that I def had to look up) from YVR-OGG (AC 2413 on 3/8 is one). Any thoughts/information on if UA will credit those flights as if they are flown on AC metal?
Edit: assuming 014 stock
Edit: assuming 014 stock
#392


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LH Group Economy light" = "Basic Economy"?
I often fly within Europe on LH Group (LH/LX/OS/SN), typically in their cheapest fare family, called Economy Light.
I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.
Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.
Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says
International Basic Economy tickets on Air Canada, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS are ineligible for Premier qualifying flights. International Basic Economy may be booked in various fare classes.
#393
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Probably. The only possible out would be it's not "international" in the US sense, but Economy Light is the European term for BE, and UA BE fares book as Economy Light.
#394


Join Date: Jul 2017
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I often fly within Europe on LH Group (LH/LX/OS/SN), typically in their cheapest fare family, called Economy Light.
I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.
Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?
I typically earn 25% RDM for those flights. I understand that this now means 25/5 = 5% PQP earnings.
Now, with regards to PQF, the new wording on the UA website around earning on partners says
So I am wondering: Is an intra-Europe "Economy Light" segment considered "Basic Economy" and thus PQF = 0 ?

#395
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Australia
Programs: UA 1K 2MMF, QF Gold
Posts: 73
There was a recent post about whether it is better to buy a CM flight on a 016 or a 230 ticket. Recently I was able to compare both due to unforeseen events. Even though I am AU based my father lives @ GYE and I go there on a regular basis because he is quite elderly. I travel there on a regular basis from LAX, SFO or SLC and as I have been a loyal 1K for 21 years I always try to book on *A mostly on 016 tickets but occasionally on 230 tickets. So I had scheduled a long time ago before the MP changes were announced SLC-GYE (21 Dec 2019) and GYE-SLC (12 Jan 2020). Due to family business I had to fly GYE-MIA-GYE (5 Jan outbound 7 Jan inbound) at the last minute. So this is what I found.
GYE-PTY 016 ticket D class booked, Base miles: 1,060; Bonus miles: 1,272; Total miles: 2,332; PQP: 212.
PTY-GYE 230 ticket D class booked; Base miles and total miles: 773; PQP: 155
The 230 ticket cost $810 + tax which gives a poor rate of return of 0.19 PQP/$
Even worse was the GYE-MIA leg on a 202 ticket which was $1,361 + taxes and gave 425 PQP or a return of 0.31 PQP/$
GYE-PTY 016 ticket D class booked, Base miles: 1,060; Bonus miles: 1,272; Total miles: 2,332; PQP: 212.
PTY-GYE 230 ticket D class booked; Base miles and total miles: 773; PQP: 155
The 230 ticket cost $810 + tax which gives a poor rate of return of 0.19 PQP/$
Even worse was the GYE-MIA leg on a 202 ticket which was $1,361 + taxes and gave 425 PQP or a return of 0.31 PQP/$
#396


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OK, I'm confused after reading 30+ pages out of the 198 on this forum. Wife and I booked Business Class D fares on Singapore Airlines and getting credit on United. I understand the basic formula of: MileagePlus partner Premier qualifying point(s) = Award miles / 6 but I'm confused by footnote 7 which states:
Are there any class bonus for SQ D fares or do I just take total miles and divide by 6?
Update: I had posted this in the wrong thread and that's why I was confused. The FAQ here makes it clear that there is no bonus. Thanks hirohito888.
Award miles are your base award miles earning plus your fare class bonus award miles earning, if eligible. Premier bonus miles earned are not included within this calculation and are ineligible for Premier qualifying points accrual.
Update: I had posted this in the wrong thread and that's why I was confused. The FAQ here makes it clear that there is no bonus. Thanks hirohito888.
Last edited by rmc1; Jan 19, 2020 at 5:32 am
#397



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OK, I'm confused after reading 30+ pages out of the 198 on this forum. Wife and I booked Business Class D fares on Singapore Airlines and getting credit on United. I understand the basic formula of: MileagePlus partner Premier qualifying point(s) = Award miles / 6 but I'm confused by footnote 7 which states:
Are there any class bonus for SQ D fares or do I just take total miles and divide by 6?
Are there any class bonus for SQ D fares or do I just take total miles and divide by 6?
#398




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Thank God this was advertised as a simpler way to earn.
#399
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I dont think I ll have a problem reaching 18k PQP for less than half actual money spent, but 54 segments may be harder to do, so every segment counts in 2020 for me!
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#402
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I think you can still call this simpler, for most folks, that fly principally to get somewhere BUT it has a complex "hack" for those willing to go there.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 19, 2020 at 6:47 pm Reason: punctuation
#403




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This is a future reservation but would be nice to hear about an actual report that PQF is credited.
#404
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I'm noticing that on some upcoming dates AC is wet-leasing from Omni Air International (OY that I def had to look up) from YVR-OGG (AC 2413 on 3/8 is one). Any thoughts/information on if UA will credit those flights as if they are flown on AC metal?
Edit: assuming 014 stock
Edit: assuming 014 stock
#405
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 7
Hi all! First post! Have been lurking for a few weeks (unfortunately was much of a miler when I lived overseas).
I have a pretty simply question about PQPs earned on partner airlines.
What is considered a good PQP to dollar ratio? I recently found a flight that will give be 3800 PQP for USD 785 (including taxes and fees). Or, 4.8 (+/-) PQP per dollar. Good?
BTW, the flight is LGA to YYZ, YYZ to GRU (AC flights) GRU to ZRH and ZRH to JFK (Swissair).
Thanks
I have a pretty simply question about PQPs earned on partner airlines.
What is considered a good PQP to dollar ratio? I recently found a flight that will give be 3800 PQP for USD 785 (including taxes and fees). Or, 4.8 (+/-) PQP per dollar. Good?
BTW, the flight is LGA to YYZ, YYZ to GRU (AC flights) GRU to ZRH and ZRH to JFK (Swissair).
Thanks



