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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 7:46 am
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30 years ago today (Aug 16th) - First QF 747 delivery flight LHR-SYD

First Unrefueled Non-Stop Flight from England to Australia

Spotted this on great circle mapper and thought the QF forum would appreciate this important moment in the airlines history. I'm guessing future deliveries went direct from Boeing in Seattle.

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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 2:40 pm
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ISTR is was nothing normal. Supposedly RR kitted it out with good engines, it had special ATC clearances throughout, was towed to the runway (?), minimal load etc. Certainly not a commercial flight as we know it. Apparently it was touch and go whether the flight would be abandoned short of its destination due fuel. I think Aust Aviation did a good article on it.
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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 5:10 pm
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The aircraft was a 747-438.

This was exactly 17 years after Qantas took delivery of its first 747 (a 747-238B).

The 747 clocks up 47 years in the Qantas fleet (Aug 16, 2018) - Australian Aviation

I don't think the dates (Aug 16th) were a coincidence.


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Anyone heard anything of retirement date? Could it be August 16 2020?
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Originally Posted by nancypants
Anyone heard anything of retirement date? Could it be August 16 2020?
Youd hope there would be at least one new 789 ready to do long haul when each 744 retires.
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by og

Youd hope there would be at least one new 789 ready to do long haul when each 744 retires.
indeed and the actual new fleet plans seem to be somewhat up in the air at present

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SCL goes to double daily 787 (half of those on LA, 3-4 of which are via AKL the rest direct)
JNB will be a daily A380
HND was slated to be a 380 but apparently the airport has said no, havent heard any more since

any other dedicated 747 routes?

(sorry a bit OT)
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by nancypants
Anyone heard anything of retirement date? Could it be August 16 2020?
Probably will retire before they start on the A380 sky bed removal
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by serfty
The aircraft was a 747-438 ER.
Dont think the ER variant was around back in 1989!
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The most important question of course is are we having some kind of *do* for the retirement of the thing. I am quite sad about it having worked my entire (brief) aviation career on it and thus have been trying to align my travel with it for the last couple of years and will be attempting another flight deck visit on the way back from joburg in a couple of days time

can we have a party please?

(I will ask questions about dates although my information last time was not entirely accurate)
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Originally Posted by SW7London
Dont think the ER variant was around back in 1989!
Youd have noticed that serftys post has been edited (no ER). And the OPs link to GCM erroneously quotes the aircrafts rego - it was (AFAIK) VH-OJA.
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Originally Posted by SW7London
Dont think the ER variant was around back in 1989!
Correct - I have removed the ER designation.

The first 747-438ER (VH-OEF. "Sydney") was delivered 31st October 2002.
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Originally Posted by og
ISTR is was nothing normal. Supposedly RR kitted it out with good engines, it had special ATC clearances throughout, was towed to the runway (?), minimal load etc. Certainly not a commercial flight as we know it. Apparently it was touch and go whether the flight would be abandoned short of its destination due fuel.
Even the fuel was special. And yes, the aircraft was towed to the runway and only started its engines after that.

It would have been a pity, though, if after all of that planning and preparation, the stronger-than-forecast winds had led to the flight having to divert for fuel reasons.
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Even the fuel was special. And yes, the aircraft was towed to the runway and only started its engines after that.

It would have been a pity, though, if after all of that planning and preparation, the stronger-than-forecast winds had led to the flight having to divert for fuel reasons.
Good reason to keep it secret until the last possible minute.
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Originally Posted by serfty
The aircraft was a 747-438.

This was exactly 17 years after Qantas took delivery of its first 747 (a 747-238B).

The 747 clocks up 47 years in the Qantas fleet (Aug 16, 2018) - Australian Aviation

I don't think the dates (Aug 16th) were a coincidence.

Ah, I just noticed I missed the -400 in my thread title. Obviously not their first 747, but the -400 is the series most would be familiar with these days. What a cool flight that must have been to be apart of.
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Old Aug 17, 2019 | 9:47 pm
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Lucky Lufthansa have the 747-8, to continue the worlds most beautiful commercial airplane tradition.
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