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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 3:46 pm
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BA228 BWI-LHR last night - odd routing and delay?

Hello

My wife was on the 2hr ground delayed BA228 (G-ZBJD) on 12 April (landed 13 April). Apparently plane had a technical issue then they flew a longer (looks like non-ETOPS) flight path hence the extra delay due to longer flight time. Only 2 1/2hr overall delay so
only asking out of curiosity.

Does anyone know what was wrong with the aircraft? Seems odd that it was announced maintenance had fixed it then it flew non-ETOPS?

Aircraft didnt fly today (13 April), next due to go to Hyderabad tomorrow, 14 April.

Thanks for any insights,

TFC
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by TheFlyingCyclist
Seems odd that it was announced maintenance had “fixed” it then it flew non-ETOPS?
I suspect that if maintenance had not "fixed" the aircraft, it would not have been flying anywhere.

The "fix" meant that there was an airworthy aircraft, and everyone got to their destination even if a different routing was required. That seems more "sensible" than "odd".
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
I suspect that if maintenance had not "fixed" the aircraft, it would not have been flying anywhere.

The "fix" meant that there was an airworthy aircraft, and everyone got to their destination even if a different routing was required. That seems more "sensible" than "odd".
I guess this could (very approximately!) be likened to putting a space-saver wheel on your car after a flat tyre. Yes it's safe to drive, but you haven't really fixed your car as further work is required.
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 7:02 pm
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flightaware plot attached
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 9:39 pm
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flightaware plot attached
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Clearly not a fix but a plaster to get back to base safely. Interested to see how this flight operates its next sector.
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 11:13 pm
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Because im on a long car ride and bored, heres the great circle route (red) overlaid with areas greater than 60 minutes from a diversion airfield (dark blue)

i wonder if there might be some element of winds or similar making the route more northerly also?
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Old Apr 14, 2019 | 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by nancypants


Because im on a long car ride and bored, heres the great circle route (red) overlaid with areas greater than 60 minutes from a diversion airfield (dark blue)

i wonder if there might be some element of winds or similar making the route more northerly also?
Interesting! So they essentially used a route which put the plane in close touch to an airfield in case it had to land.

Probably just a precautionary measure, they wouldnt be allowed to fly a plane in this day and age if there was genuine threat to human life. Love to find out what the issue was / reasoning behind re-routing though.
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Old Apr 14, 2019 | 3:38 am
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From memory (and one of the pilots can correct / enhance my answer as they see fit)

It's not an unairworthy aircraft or someone that would keep the plane grounded, it's likely to me a minor technical issue that means the plane is (temporarily) loses its ETOPS certification. ETOPS certification being needed to take a more direct routing across to the Americas & Canada etc.

It could be something as minor as one of the air conditioning packs not working, the APU is inoperative etc.

More about ETOPS here (Yes I know it's Wikipedia)
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Old Apr 14, 2019 | 3:44 am
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Could it have been weather avoidance, or using tailwinds? The attached from windy.com at this hour.


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Old Apr 14, 2019 | 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by ocprodigy


Interesting! So they essentially used a route which put the plane in close touch to an airfield in case it had to land.

Probably just a precautionary measure, they wouldnt be allowed to fly a plane in this day and age if there was genuine threat to human life. Love to find out what the issue was / reasoning behind re-routing though.
Well as OP mentions its an ETOPS question. ETOPS certification is additional over and above general airworthiness and permits twin-engine aircraft to operate over areas where the time to a suitable diversion airport is greater than normal, I think these days ETOPS certifications go as high as 250 minutes or so, which permits virtually everywhere in the world. It seems the maintenance issue caused the ETOPS certification to be temporarily lost, but not impact the overall airworthiness of the aircraft.
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Old Apr 16, 2019 | 8:49 am
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A couple of months ago on BA228 we waited, and waited... eventually when queing to board the pilot gathered all the pax around to explain tge situation.... yes the plane was fit to fly - otherwise je eouldn't be on it.... (he did not want a recording of it!). Seems like the 788's aten't overly reliable... (oh, the 767's.... :-) ).
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Old Apr 16, 2019 | 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by CKBA
A couple of months ago on BA228 we waited, and waited... eventually when queing to board the pilot gathered all the pax around to explain tge situation.... yes the plane was fit to fly - otherwise je eouldn't be on it.... (he did not want a recording of it!). Seems like the 788's aten't overly reliable... (oh, the 767's.... :-) ).
What was the situation?
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