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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by After Burner
You don't really expect that anyone with an informed and definitive answer would post here. Do you?

My conclusion would be that someone has forecasted that demand is going to fall well short of capacity. I'll bet you can't find a deal like that on a YYC-OGG flight.
Just checked a couple of winter dates ... YYC-OGG - 14,850 points.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Jasper2009
Why is AC offering cheap revenue flights during winter?
The first week of November is hardly high season for Hawaii.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by KenHamer
Just checked a couple of winter dates ... YYC-OGG - 14,850 points.
That really surprises me. YYC-OGG is mainline service. So the rose hasn't just come of rouge then.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by KenHamer
Just checked a couple of winter dates ... YYC-OGG - 14,850 points.

What's the value/point on these market fares, is it <1cpm?
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by upgradesecret
The first week of November is hardly high season for Hawaii.
What about the first week of February?

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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by KenHamer
Just checked a couple of winter dates ... YYC-OGG - 14,850 points.
I meant YYC-OGG nonstop.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by KenHamer
What about the first week of February?
Keep trying.

High season starts with the March Spring breaks.
Early season fares are one thing and then check closer in once people have started to firm up winter vacation plans.

No one on the Prairies is making any plan for the Winter right now. Agriculture is still number one in Alberta and Saskatchewan and the dry conditions have people more worried because of that than the price of oil.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 9:55 pm
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So Hawaii high season lasts 2 weeks?

Or does it peak in August?
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by upgradesecret
High season starts with the March Spring breaks.
January and February in Canada is not high season for people to want to escape winter?

Everybody I know who goes to warmer climates for winter leaves right after Christmas and is coming home around March. Nobody sticks around Edmonton in January and Feb only to spend April in Hawaii.
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Old Jul 25, 2015 | 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Jagboi
January and February in Canada is not high season for people to want to escape winter?

Everybody I know who goes to warmer climates for winter leaves right after Christmas and is coming home around March. Nobody sticks around Edmonton in January and Feb only to spend April in Hawaii.
or Calgary for that matter
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by upgradesecret
The first week of November is hardly high season for Hawaii.
From Early Nov to Mid Dec., is the lowest season for Hawaii. Starting around the last Thursday before Xmas, look out. Instant busy.
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 12:24 am
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So Hawaii high season lasts 2 weeks?

Or does it peak in August?
No, mid December to early April is Hawaii high season.
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by upgradesecret
Keep trying.

High season starts with the March Spring breaks.
Early season fares are one thing and then check closer in once people have started to firm up winter vacation plans.

No one on the Prairies is making any plan for the Winter right now. Agriculture is still number one in Alberta and Saskatchewan and the dry conditions have people more worried because of that than the price of oil.
High season starts mid December. Must people who rent condos from the Prairies have already made their plans by June.
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by After Burner
That really surprises me. YYC-OGG is mainline service. So the rose hasn't just come of rouge then.
YYc still has mainline service to OGG because there is no Rouge route out of YYC that can fill a 767 during the day.
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 1:04 am
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So if a route switches to Rouge and price stays the same, people complain that the route has been rouged and AC is ripping them off by providing less for same price.

AND if a route switches to Rouge and price drops, people complain the price is low because Rouge is sooo bad and no one would take them... except AC on the whole has been seeing record load factors in the past two years, and Rouge has been expanding aggressively, allowing AC to open new routes and be more competitive against the likes of Air Transat and Sun Wing.

I get it that Rouge isn't for everyone, if it's not for you, then don't fly it but do we need so many threads with the same talking points over and over again?
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