I've selected a seat in CW for my daughter who is flying off to Tokyo next week. Looking at a few photos of the seating I can't work out how someone in the window seat can get in or out if the other seat is flat. Do they have to climb over it? Also what is the squarish box at the far end of the cubicle? Is it a foot rest?
Any help would be really appreciated as she is in a D seat but a K is available now. She would like a window but is only small and probably would have trouble climbing over another seat.

Thanks
Ian

Yeah climb over the persons legs. Classy huh

Though I am trying my best to avoid jokes about the ease with which she will be getting her leg over, it is not hard for a young person to enter or exit the window seats. She just might have to step over some feet. When flat the beds are only a foot or so above the deck and not very wide. It is certainly a lot easier than exiting a window seat in WT

Yes that is a foot rest.

Personally I don't like the window swats in CW but I do appreciate that the mileage of other people varies considerably!! I find them a bit claustrophobic. I also don't like the fact that you either have to climb over someone or be climbed over in almost every seat in CW. being woken up by someone with short legs climbing over you is incredibly annoying, especially if you find it difficult to get to sleep on a plane in the first place.

As has been mentioned though, far better than travelling in Y, and the soft product is usually very good (or better!).

How small is your daughter? If she is relatively agile and over about 5'2", I don't think it would be particularly problematic because the foot rest is actually positioned quite low.

I'm a bit taller than that but manage to get out of the window seat over someone's lower legs on the foot rest in a fairly tight skirt without compromising my modesty or disturbing the passenger in any way. This cannot be said about J seats on quite a few airlines, so CW window seats are in fact relatively easy to get out of. I have been effective 'stuck' in the window seat of various airlines so as not to disturb a sleeping passenger next to me by trying to get out, but I have had no such concerns at all in a standard CW window seat.

If you know how restrictive a relatively tight skirt can be in terms of leg movement, I think you'll understand what I'm saying (not that I am advocating trying it for yourself!).

Having said that, I kept my footrest down on my last flight in CW because the passenger in the window seat who had to use my footrest area to get out seemed rather frail and a little unstable on his feet and I did not want to cause him undue distress by forcing him to step over or to cause embarrassment to him by putting him in a situation where he had to wake me to ask me to put my footrest down. I would not have done this if I felt that the person in the window seat was agile enough to get out relatively easily, which would be the case for most people. I can't remember seeing many people having problems with it, including short ladies.

And there are several window seats where no clambering is needed, those facing on to the rear bulk heads in broad terms. On 787 and 380 there are middle single seats that exit out on the bulk head in 2 directions without clambering. For privacy and coolness, window seats everytime for me.

Clambering is probably an exaggeration, I can step over relatively easily without contact with the aisle person or seat.

The only time i have been disturbed was when young kids were in the seats, (5 ish) and they climbed over my legs literally grabbed them (Middle in the lower deck). Really annoying especially on a night flight. Didnt help that somewhere else a kid was playing a game in the middle of this flight out of the ipad speakers and the nanny was letting him! That was the worst CW flight i have ever had.

I find it easy to get out, but then again im 6'1" and more likely to hit my head above.

There is a foot stool at the foot end of the seat which when in bed mode forms part of the bed.

If you are choosing seats in advance (either free with status or by paying) then you should be aware that there are a few window seats where you can get to the aisle without having to step over someone else's legs. Likewise there are a few aisle seats where no one else will have to step over you. Have a look at a seatplan website for details.

for a passenger travelling alone the centre seats are not recommended. It is a choice between a window seat for privacy (my preference on a night flight) or an aisle seat (which is my preference for a day flight because I like to see what is going on).

Why suffer in silence? There's an easy fix - ask for her to turn little Timmy's speakers off. If nanny refuses (which I would doubt) then ask the crew to deal with it. You obviously shouldn't have to, but clearly there are people in this world with no manners and they occasionally need reminded that the world does not simply revolve around them.

As she is only 22 I better not mention any talk of leg overs with her mum around
She is about 5'6" and is a jeans girl so stepping over appears to not be a problem, thanks to you all.

Ian

It didnt last that long, and the crew came to tell them to turn it off by the time i had located it. I just was shocked at the way they felt that was appropriate thing to do with the cabin sleeping, i would have been more understanding if it had just been the child but he was sat on the nanny's lap which IMO made it worse.

But safe to say i havent suffered from anyone else being disturbing in J/F since but in J i have not been downstairs since on a 747.

You know, posts like this come up from time to time and well, they sort of annoy me really. If I based my expectation on these posts I would imagine a business cabin with people struggling to get in and out of their seats all through the flight!!

I don't needless to say. ON night flights I generally sleep for most of the flight and on day flights only very occasionally do i have to step over anyone

And lets have a bit of respect for that layout- it was January 2000 when the first gen bed was launched - 14 years ago. And guess what - people marvelled at how BA could create so much space for individual beds.

Slowly other carriers launched their business beds, mostly angled lie flat with a box for that part of your legs below the knee that had to fit under the seat in front (bruised calves etc.)

BA then launched NGCW, same basic design but a more robust product and better partitioning for those that want it.

And some carriers still haven't yet got a guaranteed flat bed product across their fleet yet.

And if you are enjoying CX or JL or QF or even new AA which I accept have a nice herringbone layout (or heaven forbid the gypsy caravan that is EK) then spare a thought for the BA product - without which we may all still be sitting in cradle seats!!

Hang on a second!

CX long haul J seats are all pretty well-accessible and solid products.

However, most JL non-aisle J seats are not easily accessible. The only JL ones that provide non-stepover access are the Sky Suite ones, although more and more aircraft is being fitted with them. The standard ones have a high degree of incline and still difficult to get out of despite it.

QF non-aisle J seats are definitely not easily accessible either - in fact they are only made semi-accessible by the slope or droop.

I have to get an aisle seat on QF and JL (non-Sky Suite) because I get trapped in non-aisle seat, because of the seat layout making it much harder to get out of a non-aisle seat than from a BA CW window seat.

So... if they are the "improved" seats triggered by BA CW seats, damn the BA CW seats!! (Said in jest, I think BA CW seats are better than QF J/most JL J seats in terms of the lack of slope/droop and accessibility).

QF is still 2-2-2 isn't it, no herringbone there and classy step overs a plenty

I often have this problem - am too busy making sure that I don't hit the sleeping person's legs that I fail to notice the approaching ceiling/luggage bins.
So rather than waking them up by hitting their legs I wake them up by swearing instead.