Amanresorts Thread 2013 (Started by Amanjunkie)
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"similar property" - this can become philosophical. (going beyond statistics.)
"overrated" - factually inaccurate - service is what gets ratings, not other things. you did not stay.
you claim others are "underestimating" service elsewhere while you in fact underestimate aman and overestimate others
more anti-luxury anti-aman, fun times. (edit - implying that there is never any reason to pay 'high' cost.)
im not sure there is a point getting into philosophical discussions. at least when there are incorrect assumptions being made about posters here, if a correction is made it is simpler facts rather than complicated philosophy.
things cost money, including service, which is (mostly) intangible.
there will always be differences (incl quality) AMONG luxury properties, like everything else.
different people value different things (incl quality) a different amount.
here we go again
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http://www.departures.com/slideshows...tel-arrivals/1
http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/u...eryacht/110726
http://www.bhutantour.bt/bhutan-news...-bumthang.html
"overrated" - factually inaccurate - service is what gets ratings, not other things. you did not stay.
you claim others are "underestimating" service elsewhere while you in fact underestimate aman and overestimate others
more anti-luxury anti-aman, fun times. (edit - implying that there is never any reason to pay 'high' cost.)
im not sure there is a point getting into philosophical discussions. at least when there are incorrect assumptions being made about posters here, if a correction is made it is simpler facts rather than complicated philosophy.
things cost money, including service, which is (mostly) intangible.
there will always be differences (incl quality) AMONG luxury properties, like everything else.
different people value different things (incl quality) a different amount.
Until they lower their prices, I will only ever be visiting to get some video footage for my company's YouTube channel.
I think Aman peaked a few years ago. They cannot justify their rates anymore. And what's with the fascination with allowing people to buy villas onsite? It should be a hotel, not a village.
I think Aman peaked a few years ago. They cannot justify their rates anymore. And what's with the fascination with allowing people to buy villas onsite? It should be a hotel, not a village.
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http://www.departures.com/slideshows...tel-arrivals/1
Amangiri, Canyon Point, Utah
Undetectable from the road, the small sign marking this 600-acre property in Utah’s Grand Staircase is an especially understated welcome. Guests buzz at the gate for entry, which opens to reveal a dramatic two-mile road that winds past hidden canyons, 5,000-year-old petroglyphs and rust-colored, stratified plateaus through the middle of nowhere toward the magnificent bunker-style resort. Once there, a series of steps emerge, lit with flickering hurricane lanterns and a single staff member who greets you with sage lemonade and the absence of resort music—replaced instead by the sounds of the surrounding desert.
Undetectable from the road, the small sign marking this 600-acre property in Utah’s Grand Staircase is an especially understated welcome. Guests buzz at the gate for entry, which opens to reveal a dramatic two-mile road that winds past hidden canyons, 5,000-year-old petroglyphs and rust-colored, stratified plateaus through the middle of nowhere toward the magnificent bunker-style resort. Once there, a series of steps emerge, lit with flickering hurricane lanterns and a single staff member who greets you with sage lemonade and the absence of resort music—replaced instead by the sounds of the surrounding desert.
Turks and Caicos Islands reef rampage by superyacht...Assistance too has been provided by the reef’s neighbour, the Amanyara Resort
Amankora Bumthang, an international standard luxury hotel, is making a big difference to the community through its social service activities.
It first started teaching English to the monks of Wangduechholing. Ngawang Tenzin, the first voluntary teacher, initially taught twice a week. Now, with more volunteers, the classes are taken almost every day.
Later, villagers also took interest in Amankora’s English classes. So their service was extended to villagers. This time, the dzongkhag administration supported the activity after it was convinced that Amankora had enough manpower and delivered quality service.
Amankora also took up cleaning important tourist sites. The volunteers clean up Wangduechholing Palace and temples and prayer wheels in the vicinity.
Ngawang Tenzin, one of the coordinators, said, “Voluntary work gives a sense of belonging and cultivates civic sense. It makes us responsible and helps us connect ourselves with the people.”
Last year, Amankora gave a two-week training for 30 students. Tshewang Norbu, the manager of the hotel, said, “Not only were they given training free of cost but also provided free lunch by the hotel.”
At the end of two weeks, the students were awarded certificates. To improve their services, local hotels, which are mostly family-run, have been asked to nominate their candidates for training at Amankora.
To promote the local market, Amankora buys products like cheese, butter and milk from the local sellers only. It distribute vegetable seeds to the farmers free of cost and buys vegetables from them.
The Lodge Manager, Ms Torren, took the initiative of bringing clothes from her country and distributing them to the poor people.
Nowadays, Amankora volunteers are in the thick of extension work of the nunnery in Tang.
Besides, the hotel contributed labour to the construction of the chorten behind Kurjey Lhakhang almost every alternate day until its completion. The employees pooled money for whitewashing it.
Amankora employees also explore the valley and identify new hike trails and old temples. They clean trails and plant trees. Currently, they are cleaning the trail from Tamzhing.
Saving lives through blood donation is yet another social service Amankora is contemplating.
The hotel is planning to reach out to wider communities in collaboration with Youth Development Fund through awareness programmes and shows on hygiene, cleanliness and HIV/AIDS.
[Courtesy: BhutanObserver]
It first started teaching English to the monks of Wangduechholing. Ngawang Tenzin, the first voluntary teacher, initially taught twice a week. Now, with more volunteers, the classes are taken almost every day.
Later, villagers also took interest in Amankora’s English classes. So their service was extended to villagers. This time, the dzongkhag administration supported the activity after it was convinced that Amankora had enough manpower and delivered quality service.
Amankora also took up cleaning important tourist sites. The volunteers clean up Wangduechholing Palace and temples and prayer wheels in the vicinity.
Ngawang Tenzin, one of the coordinators, said, “Voluntary work gives a sense of belonging and cultivates civic sense. It makes us responsible and helps us connect ourselves with the people.”
Last year, Amankora gave a two-week training for 30 students. Tshewang Norbu, the manager of the hotel, said, “Not only were they given training free of cost but also provided free lunch by the hotel.”
At the end of two weeks, the students were awarded certificates. To improve their services, local hotels, which are mostly family-run, have been asked to nominate their candidates for training at Amankora.
To promote the local market, Amankora buys products like cheese, butter and milk from the local sellers only. It distribute vegetable seeds to the farmers free of cost and buys vegetables from them.
The Lodge Manager, Ms Torren, took the initiative of bringing clothes from her country and distributing them to the poor people.
Nowadays, Amankora volunteers are in the thick of extension work of the nunnery in Tang.
Besides, the hotel contributed labour to the construction of the chorten behind Kurjey Lhakhang almost every alternate day until its completion. The employees pooled money for whitewashing it.
Amankora employees also explore the valley and identify new hike trails and old temples. They clean trails and plant trees. Currently, they are cleaning the trail from Tamzhing.
Saving lives through blood donation is yet another social service Amankora is contemplating.
The hotel is planning to reach out to wider communities in collaboration with Youth Development Fund through awareness programmes and shows on hygiene, cleanliness and HIV/AIDS.
[Courtesy: BhutanObserver]
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jun 30, 2013 at 2:12 pm
#93


Join Date: Mar 2012
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"similar property" - this can become philosophical. (going beyond statistics.)
"overrated" - factually inaccurate - service is what gets ratings, not other things. you did not stay.
more anti-luxury anti-aman, fun times.
im not sure there is a point getting into philosophical discussions. at least when there are incorrect assumptions being made about posters here, if a correction is made it is simpler facts rather than complicated philosophy.
things cost money, including service, which is (mostly) intangible.
there will always be differences (incl quality) AMONG luxury properties, like everything else.
different people value different things (incl quality) a different amount.
"overrated" - factually inaccurate - service is what gets ratings, not other things. you did not stay.
more anti-luxury anti-aman, fun times.
im not sure there is a point getting into philosophical discussions. at least when there are incorrect assumptions being made about posters here, if a correction is made it is simpler facts rather than complicated philosophy.
things cost money, including service, which is (mostly) intangible.
there will always be differences (incl quality) AMONG luxury properties, like everything else.
different people value different things (incl quality) a different amount.
And who is Anti luxury or anti Aman? I just thought Amantaka looked overrated. But fairly mentioned I didn't stay. Perhaps someone from Aman is readings this and will offer me a free night - otherwise I can't justify the rate.
#94
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I think Aman peaked a few years ago. They cannot justify their rates anymore. And what's with the fascination with allowing people to buy villas onsite? It should be a hotel, not a village.
#95
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Until they lower their prices, I will only ever be visiting to get some video footage for my company's YouTube channel.
I think Aman peaked a few years ago. They cannot justify their rates anymore. And what's with the fascination with allowing people to buy villas onsite? It should be a hotel, not a village.
I think Aman peaked a few years ago. They cannot justify their rates anymore. And what's with the fascination with allowing people to buy villas onsite? It should be a hotel, not a village.
Also, Aman started in 1988 by selling residential villas in order to finance their first resort - Amanpuri. This is hardly a new concept!
#96


Join Date: Mar 2011
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Good evening to all FTers and Amanjunkies especially,
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
#97
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 246
Good evening to all FTers and Amanjunkies especially,
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG

If you are booking with a Virtuoso agent then you should be expecting a one level upgrade to Borobudur suite if hotel is not too busy.
Suites on upper tier are more private, but for us the favourite is #24/25 (Borobudur suite) and #26 (Borobudur pool suite), all of which are on the lower tier and look out to the surrounding paddy fields and volcano afar. However it is less private than the upper tier suites as farmers and villagers work in the fields during the day.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Love the early planning 
If you are booking with a Virtuoso agent then you should be expecting a one level upgrade to Borobudur suite if hotel is not too busy.
Suites on upper tier are more private, but for us the favourite is #24/25 (Borobudur suite) and #26 (Borobudur pool suite), all of which are on the lower tier and look out to the surrounding paddy fields and volcano afar. However it is less private than the upper tier suites as farmers and villagers work in the fields during the day.

If you are booking with a Virtuoso agent then you should be expecting a one level upgrade to Borobudur suite if hotel is not too busy.
Suites on upper tier are more private, but for us the favourite is #24/25 (Borobudur suite) and #26 (Borobudur pool suite), all of which are on the lower tier and look out to the surrounding paddy fields and volcano afar. However it is less private than the upper tier suites as farmers and villagers work in the fields during the day.
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Amanjiwo suite advice
Good evening to all FTers and Amanjunkies especially,
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
Amanjiwo may be the most magical place we've ever been short of Singita Boulders Lodge. You will love it, especially if you have any appreciation of a spiritual feel. Neither of us are spiritual in the least, but Amanjiwo (and to a less extent, Amandari in Ubud) really struck us in the most spiritual way. It was pure magic and total escape for us.
I also highly recommend the bicycle ride through the local countryside. While I normally despise riding a bike, my husband loves it--and it turned out to be quite a highlight of our visit (aside from the Temple and the resort, itself). Seeing the local villagers and the cleanliness of their living, despite the meager means, was spectacular, and everyone was so friendly and inviting. Local children were clearly interested in the strange pale people coming through and followed us at various times throughout much of our ride.
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Count us as big fans of Amanjiwo as well, and in particular the front row/lower level of suites. There is certainly a little less privacy (almost ground level, upper-level suites can sometimes partially see into courtyard of your suite), but I generally dislike views of rooftops which the upper suites obviously have plenty of. We have stayed in both upper-level and lower-level Borobudur pool suites.
That being said, it is hard to go wrong as Amanjiwo is such a special place it trivializes things such as small differences in accommodation, at least for us
That being said, it is hard to go wrong as Amanjiwo is such a special place it trivializes things such as small differences in accommodation, at least for us
#101


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bhrubin and bubb1, many thanks for taking the time to write some recommendations, I'll make sure to follow these.
Silly question for you guys but still, do you tip in Aman Resorts? If yes, to whom and how much?
Silly question for you guys but still, do you tip in Aman Resorts? If yes, to whom and how much?
#102

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Good evening to all FTers and Amanjunkies especially,
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
I'll be staying at Aman Jiwo next year in August for 3 nights on the Cultural trails package (too bad they raised the price per night by 100 USD but that's the course of things I guess).
I would like to ask for your opinion on which Garden pavillon to ask for (if any) and which activities to choose in the cultural trails package.
Many thanks in advance!
N.B.: this will be part of a short RTW trip of 3 weeks: CDG-SFO-PVG-SIN-Amanjiwo-SIN-CDG
Hello SeamasterLux! Stayed at Aman Jiwo in 2012 and the experience was just perfect. I would highly recommend the sunrise Borobudur tour. It gives you the opportunity to visit an architectural and cultural wonder at a time when there are few other guests there. While the tour is not private to Aman Jiwo, the guides Aman provided were all extremely knowledgeable, and like the staff there, had an impressive ability to be both helpful and informative, yet disappear when you wanted to admire the temple quietly.
Bike riding through the area villages was also very enjoyable, but do keep in mind that Aman Jiwo is essentially on a mountain.
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Because there is a hefty service charge, we only tip for the "above and beyond" and/or the individual staff member that we spend a lot of time with.
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Yes ..
Ask GM Mark S to suggest activities too , some may not be listed .. Specific to when you are there l
Looking forward to a return stay, was there in Aug
#105


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Hello SeamasterLux! Stayed at Aman Jiwo in 2012 and the experience was just perfect. I would highly recommend the sunrise Borobudur tour. It gives you the opportunity to visit an architectural and cultural wonder at a time when there are few other guests there. While the tour is not private to Aman Jiwo, the guides Aman provided were all extremely knowledgeable, and like the staff there, had an impressive ability to be both helpful and informative, yet disappear when you wanted to admire the temple quietly.
Bike riding through the area villages was also very enjoyable, but do keep in mind that Aman Jiwo is essentially on a mountain.
Bike riding through the area villages was also very enjoyable, but do keep in mind that Aman Jiwo is essentially on a mountain.
Great idea, how should I contact this charming gentleman?

