49 C.F.R. § 1540.107 Submission to screening and inspection.

No individual may enter a sterile area or board an aircraft without submitting to the screening and inspection of his or her person and accessible property in accordance with the procedures being applied to control access to that area or aircraft under this subchapter.

[67 FR 41639, June 19, 2002]

None of which is violated if you pass through the checkpoint with a ticket in your own name that you later cancel, or a gate pass.

What if the boarding pass is actually a forgery? I don't think that just because the computer beeps, and the agent let's your board, constitutes "consent" to use of a fraudulent document.

Why present a forged boarding pass to the airline agent when that is not even necessary in order to board the plane using a ticket and boarding pass issued in another name? A fraudulent document need not be presented to the airline in order to board.

You must not have reread your own message, from which I was quoting. I agree (as the OP) that this thread was not about presenting a forged boarding pass, it was an original. I was challenging *only* your statement that there is some form of "consent" when the agent allows you to board the plane.

Your idea of "must" seems to be different than the general meaning of that word in application.

Absent airline agent's consent to boarding by a passenger, how does a passenger board a plane when fraudulent documents are not involved and there is no criminal trespass? Accident minus consent?

How does that in the least govern the presentation of id at the checkpoint? (BTW, your reference to 2002 is way out of date. That section was revised in 2008.)

49 C.F.R. §1540.107(a) requires that no individual may enter a sterile area or board an aircraft without submitting to the screening and inspection of his or her person and accessible property. So what does that entail? 49 C.F.R. §1540.5 defines "screening function" as "the inspection of individuals and property for weapons, explosives, and incendiaries." No TDC ID requirements here. Care to try again?

So your point was that someone with a legitimate ticket, but who avoids the "beep" and "welcome onboard," is a stowaway? Or were you implying that there was actually a significance to your argument and that there is some form of "consent" in the beep and agent beyond the legitimacy of the ticket? And if you were implying that the consent has some relevance, then is that consent different for a legitimate ticket (perhaps with someone else's name) than it is for a forged ticket?

You seem to have your own idea of what was posted, despite what was posted, and despite what was not posted, in my words.

I have been here even longer than you (although I have posted less), so I am somewhat familiar with your debate style.

For the record, having considered your non-response, I will allow the other readers of this post to make their own decision about the merit of your ORIGINAL statement, which I accurately quoted and questioned.

So this line of "questioning" was more based on an issue with personalities than with the actual content of the posts itself, posts which you seem to have (mis-)understood differently than I (i.e., the maker of the posts)? Not a surprise, but that is not a game I am interested in playing.

I won't go into who has been here longer, as it's not relevant even when built on misinformation.

As a practical matter, it is possible to fly on someone else's ticket without there being any criminal violation. Airline agent consent to board such passengers too helps to make that happen.

Ron, don't want to try again or admit your practice of law leaves something to be desired?

No one answered the question of "Why."

Why does it matter if someone's name matches their boarding pass?

Someone with malicious intent could easily make a fake name and fake ID. They'd still need to go through security which presumably would remove anything dangerous from them.

So why do we need a name in the first place? Sure, the airline might want the name for record-keeping purposes, but from a safety and privacy perspective, there's no real reason we need people's names.

The main reason is airlines' revenue protection and to enable them to verify that people have valid documents for their destination.

The OP asked:
I answered:
To which you state:
Which of course has nothing to do with my answer to the OP’s question.

And the second question in the thread directed to me is:
For which another poster provides the answer:
But for which I provide:
When another poster jumps in with:
Which is again off topic of the original post and something for which I did not provide any information nor was asked about.

With which another poster replies:
But you missed 49 C.F.R. 1540.107 Sub-part B (c) which states:
“An individual may not enter a sterile area or board an aircraft if the individual does not present a verifying identity document as defined in §1560.3 of this chapter, when requested for purposes of watch list matching under §1560.105(c), unless otherwise authorized by TSA on a case-by-case basis.”

Which is current as of 9/26/2012. http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...2.10.4&idno=49

Good enough? And I have never said I practice law, only that I can read it and understand what I read. Better than some here that's for sure.