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The latest version (2010) of the First cabin (termed "Prime" internally by British Airways, or "New First") is available on all 4-class 777s and all 747s.
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
Tracking NF [New First]
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It's to do with how many J seats are on the aircraft (52 or 70) and location of CW (behind First or behind WT+) but nothing to do with the Upper Deck as all BAs 747s have CW up there.
Last edited by clubman; Feb 21, 2012 at 6:21 am
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So I've looked at this thread including the first post but am still a little confused as to how to work it out.
I am looking to book F from ORD to LHR in July. There is availability on a flight served by 747 and availability on a flight served by 777. Is there one that I should pick to maximise my chances of getting NF?
Also seperate question, does hi-J, mid-J have to do where business class is located on the plane? (does hi-J means upstairs on 747)??
Thanks.
I am looking to book F from ORD to LHR in July. There is availability on a flight served by 747 and availability on a flight served by 777. Is there one that I should pick to maximise my chances of getting NF?
Also seperate question, does hi-J, mid-J have to do where business class is located on the plane? (does hi-J means upstairs on 747)??
Thanks.
297 is operated by 772s.
Occasionally both flights see a 773 which will always have NF fitted.
Mid-j means there are 52 CW seats instead of 70 - the upper deck is still all CW, but in a mid-j, downstairs WT+ is located behind first, and CW is between WT+ and WT. On hi-J there are 70 seats and the lower deck follows a normal cabin configuration, i.e. First > CW > WT+ > WT.
Here's what I would do:
IF BA295 is operated by a 772 then book that - FTdash is currently showing 82% NF when 295 is 772 operated.
If BA295 is 744 operated then I would book BA 297 instead - when 295 is 744 operated, NF is currently tracking at 18%.
BA297 is tracking at 53% which is obviously better odds the taking a 744 operated 295.
(http://ftdashboard.net/overview/baflights.htm)
Bear in mind last minute equipment subs though.
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Dxb 747 nf?
Hi
I'm booked in may on the 107 / 106 LHR - DBX return in May. I spoke to You First yesterday who said it looked like OF config because of the position of the Bassinet (although this is not visible in MMB) . however, they said no plane number had been allocated to the route as yet...
I was hopeful of at least getting NF one way (stats seem to indicate about 75%), but now I am assuming the worst..
Can anyone offer a glimmer of hope or is the bassinet position an indication of a surefire OF plane?
I am thinking of changing my flight / destination as I really would love to fly NF...
Thank you for your thoughts
I'm booked in may on the 107 / 106 LHR - DBX return in May. I spoke to You First yesterday who said it looked like OF config because of the position of the Bassinet (although this is not visible in MMB) . however, they said no plane number had been allocated to the route as yet...
I was hopeful of at least getting NF one way (stats seem to indicate about 75%), but now I am assuming the worst..
Can anyone offer a glimmer of hope or is the bassinet position an indication of a surefire OF plane?
I am thinking of changing my flight / destination as I really would love to fly NF...
Thank you for your thoughts
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Hi
I'm booked in may on the 107 / 106 LHR - DBX return in May. I spoke to You First yesterday who said it looked like OF config because of the position of the Bassinet (although this is not visible in MMB) . however, they said no plane number had been allocated to the route as yet...
I was hopeful of at least getting NF one way (stats seem to indicate about 75%), but now I am assuming the worst..
Can anyone offer a glimmer of hope or is the bassinet position an indication of a surefire OF plane?
I am thinking of changing my flight / destination as I really would love to fly NF...
Thank you for your thoughts
I'm booked in may on the 107 / 106 LHR - DBX return in May. I spoke to You First yesterday who said it looked like OF config because of the position of the Bassinet (although this is not visible in MMB) . however, they said no plane number had been allocated to the route as yet...
I was hopeful of at least getting NF one way (stats seem to indicate about 75%), but now I am assuming the worst..
Can anyone offer a glimmer of hope or is the bassinet position an indication of a surefire OF plane?
I am thinking of changing my flight / destination as I really would love to fly NF...
Thank you for your thoughts
got a F flight to LAX late April and the seat plan is currently for OF but a few days before departure it could easily switch to NF.
I think unless your on a guaranteed NF route or flying on a 77W, maybe BA are putting OF seat plans up with the possibility of it changing to a NF seat plan closer to departure once BA know exactly which aircraft will be used on the day of your flight.
It's been stated on here quite often that people's F seat plans have
changed from OF to NF within a few days of their scheduled departure.
BA 108 / 109 is a 777 and I think it's flown using a 77W, which will guarantee you NF.
Last edited by lancefan; Feb 21, 2012 at 3:35 pm
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Thanks for that.. I won't give up hope just yet then.. in fact, will probably just leave in the lap of the gods and wait and see what the 'windows' look like when we get to the gate!! :-)
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NF @ Gatwick from April ...
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I've not long checked in online in F for the BA12 SIN-LHR (Tuesday 21st flight) after connecting in F from the BA16 but the F seat map shows no wardrobes or cot anywhere at all. I know it's a high J with a 92% 'hit rate' so here's hoping its NF.
Its not due to depart from LHR for another 6 hrs or so GMT but wondering if the seatmap will change in MMB to give an indication?
Its not due to depart from LHR for another 6 hrs or so GMT but wondering if the seatmap will change in MMB to give an indication?
However, I have to say compared to my previous connecting flight on BA16 (G-YMMG) I found the OF seat much more comfortable and the lack of a leg rest is a flaw in the NF design imo. One of the senior crew on one of the flights was also a FT'r!!!
Fantastic and very enthusiastic crews, service, food etc on both, particularly the BA12. I really was spoiled and pampered. ^ (ba.com/well dones sent)
I slept for 6 solid hours on the OF flight and sad to say I just couldnt get 100% comfortable in NF and the galley noise was much more noticable on the 777 (200) compared to the 747.
I'm with a few others here that the OF is a comfier seat but YMMV.
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The key is that the Hi-J 747's are nearly complete (I think 2 left now but others can correct me). We will then see what happens to the others. I would have thought that the BMI/IAG merger will necessitate the 747-400's will be around longer as it is the Long Haul BA wants to expand (Asia and South America key targets) and that they might all get refitted with NF.
Also watch this space for 'guaranteed' NF routes. Once all the Hi-J's are done I reckon JNB, LAX and SFO are next for guaranteed NF (there will be enough Mid-J's around to sort this out I would have thought by then).
FD.
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