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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by at240
I think the telling thing is that a third-party tool does the job more quickly and more usefully than the airline's own website.
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To me, that sums the current VS management's business ethos up perfectly!
Please rest assured that they played no role with regard to the VS Award search functionality, that is available via the KVS Tool .
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 2:29 pm
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Prey then tell KVS, why is VS availability only in your most expensive package?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 3:27 pm
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Given the state of the VS website I'm surprised anyone can get any accurate availability from it.

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by at240
I may be wrong but I thought that KVS just scraped the award availability from the website, using your flying club account details.
That is correct.

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Prey then tell KVS, why is VS availability only in your most expensive package?
Good question, maybe he thinks you will pay the larger amount for the data since it's not clear where it comes from.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by slinky09
Prey then tell KVS, why is VS availability only in your most expensive package?
Please see the reply in the dedicated http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/virgi...l#post17783287 thread.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
As with most other carrier-specific Award/Upgrade Availability Methods in the KVS Tool, the [Awards/VS] Method is included at the Diamond membership level -- please see the [Detailed View] at http://Levels.KVSTool.com for more info.
That still doesn't answer the question as to why you charge the most for free data from airline websites.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by pete4212
That still doesn't answer the question as to why you charge the most for free data from airline websites.
Thank you Pete, so KVS why?

Do you get charged by VS for the data? If so, are you charged more than a *A airline for redemption seats? Or are you just pricing it in a premium way to make money?

Any answer is OK, just let us know?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by slinky09
so KVS why?
As with most other software products, the allocation of Methods & other features to membership levels within the KVS Tool is an internal and discretionary matter.

A number of different considerations were taken into the account, however, with reference to your specific question, the data aspect was not an applicable factor.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
As with most other software products, the allocation of Methods & other features to membership levels within the KVS Tool is an internal and discretionary matter.

A number of different considerations were taken into the account, however, with reference to your specific question, the data aspect was not an applicable factor.

IMHO, whoever posts on behalf of KVS in this forum has missed their vocation!
A career in politics beckons - they already have a mastery of the art of responding to questions without actually giving an answer; or saying anything that makes sense.
However - a career in sales may not be a good move! You certainly aren't making me want to rush over to your site and buy a subscription.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Nottingham Nick
IMHO, whoever posts on behalf of KVS in this forum has missed their vocation!
A career in politics beckons - they already have a mastery of the art of responding to questions without actually giving an answer; or saying anything that makes sense.
However - a career in sales may not be a good move! You certainly aren't making me want to rush over to your site and buy a subscription.

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Haha! Nice one Nick ^

I thought it was just me - I read what he said about 3 times and then gave up trying to understand the content. I put it down to being tired last night, but after re-reading it again today I can now see for certain that it's basically just nonsense on a theme.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Nottingham Nick
However - a career in sales may not be a good move!
Originally Posted by AMDB7
Haha! Nice one Nick ^
Indeed, we also wish to thank Nottingham Nick for a very entertaining post! ^

On a more serious note, however, KVS Tool members continue to enjoy using the Tool, based on their own experiences, and not because someone with "a career in sales" used some form of marketing speak to tell them how great it is going to be :

http://www.KVSTool.com/Member-Testimonials.php
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 3:14 pm
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Ok.. think now we've all had our say, we'll draw this to a close and return to the discussion of spending miles on VS?

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