Thanks again. Assuming I can confirm a room with separate shower and tub, with a bit more overall size, would you put the St. Regis in the same basic category as the FS/RC?

The room I saw didn't even have a tub... Lead-in rooms are smallish (350 sq. ft.), and the bathrooms are really tiny - as in, there's basically enough space to stand in front of the sink.

On the plus side, the lobby is beautiful, room furnishings are very nice, and there's a great restaurant on property.

so FSPP has standardized this language? i definitely remember some FHR contracts for FS properties having high level upgrades in the past.

The Preferred Partner amenities are basically boilerplate - the point is that they have created a standardized set of amenities across all their properties - but despite the wording, high level upgrades can happen at some hotels and resorts.

sydney - 50% off suites

more FS are dropping rates off entirely...

What does this mean Kage?

sorry, off website.

you click on the rate, and the pop up window (sep 2009 change) comes up, but the "rate" option is gone. only "includes" and "conditions" are there. decreasing transparency.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...s-mistake.html

Ah- thanks- now I understand. So how do you know how much you are paying?

Does anyone know of any special promos for FS Provence for August - the fifth night free would be great, but seems to have ended March 31.

The City Breaks Promotion (100� credit) seems to be offered for August dates on the Preferred Partner webpage, even though the promotion ends March 31, plus Preferred Partner amenities:

• Daily full American breakfast for two through In-Room Dining or in the hotel restaurant (including buffets)
• Spa credit of USD100 once during stay (not applicable to products)
• Upgrade of one category, based on availability at time of check-in (excluding signature suites and villas)
• Complimentary high-speed Internet access for all suite bookings

Thanks David.

Travelzoo has the Ritz-Carlton Chicago (a Four Seasons property) listed on their Top 20 deals this week. The deal is essentially 25% off rates for 2-night stays -- Moderate Rooms from $221.

The property still has their Third Night Free offer which provides a lower average rate per night for higher category rooms, but this (new?) promo certainly seems useful for 2-night getaways.

The promo may also be combined with FSPP amenities:

• Daily full American breakfast for two through In-Room Dining or in the hotel restaurant (including buffets)
• Lunch for two once during stay (up to USD85, excluding gratuity and alcohol)
• Upgrade of one category, based on availability at time of check-in (excluding signature suites and villas)
• Welcome note at check-in acknowledging you and your travel agency and the amenities that are being extended
• Complimentary high-speed Internet access for all suite bookings

vail after

3rd nt free / 2nd nt free (stay longer / camp four seasons) >

$133 / $263 garden
$167 / $300 village
$200 / $325 mountain
$200 / $350 dlx mountain
$333 / $425 village exec suite
$367 / $450 mountain exec suite

xxxx / $620 2BR garden
$700 / $700 village suite
xxxx / $703 3BR garden
xxxx / $803 2BR village mountain
$850 / $813 dlx mountain
xxxx / $913 3BR village mountain
$1050 / $988 mt powell
xxxxx / $1048 2BR den village mountain
xxxxx / $1078 3BR den garden village
$1217 / $1113 gore range
xxxxx / $1213 4BR village mountain
$1383 / $1238 mt elbert

camp four seasons inclusions >
http://www.fourseasons.com/vail/pack...?type=packages

source >
also at vail >
saddle up, 2 nt min, may 5-8
$249 / $279
incl $100 credit
charity gets portion of room rate and 15% of spa proceeds

mauritius past low >
now incl daily 3 course dinner
plus golf cart with gps and golf
after 5th 6th 7th nt free >
€285 garden (+€15pp)
€315 mangrove (+€0pp)
€370 ocean
€430 beach
(residences are +€40pp > +€60pp)
(comparing to past low)

provence - new potential upgrade
€1012 (after 20% off) or €950 (after 4th nt free) premier villa
€2960 (after 20% off) or €2775 (after 4th nt free) villa mediterranee with pool (1)

costa rica - new low
$1820 3BR residence villa with plunge pool (after 6th 7th nt free) 332m2
$5200 3BR miramar suite with pool (after 5th nt free) 392m2 (1)

punta mita
$2515 5BR oceanview with pool (after 3rd nt free) 836m2
$6545 5BR oceanfront with pool 1200-1302m2 (4)

edited http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16095248-post118.html to add 3rd nt free comparison