New xONEx T&Cs and price rises - as at 1 May
Mar 2, 2011 | 4:19 am
#16
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A few data dumps:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Australia as the most expensive country got even more expensive.
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
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SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- QF SYD SYD 11699 AUD DONE4 QF SYD SYD 12999 AUD DONE5 QF SYD SYD 14599 AUD DONE6
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
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JNB Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS] JNB Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- BA JNB JNB 48000 ZAR DONE4 BA JNB JNB 55200 ZAR DONE5 BA JNB JNB 64900 ZAR DONE6
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JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK] JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- AA JFK JFK 10199 USD DONE3 AA JFK JFK 10799 USD DONE4 AA JFK JFK 12299 USD DONE5 AA JFK JFK 14099 USD DONE6
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LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- BA LHR LHR 4991 GBP DONE3 BA LHR LHR 5719 GBP DONE4 BA LHR LHR 6551 GBP DONE5 BA LHR LHR 7227 GBP DONE6
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
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FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- BA FRA FRA 5777 EUR DONE3 BA FRA FRA 6684 EUR DONE4 BA FRA FRA 7569 EUR DONE5 BA FRA FRA 8702 EUR DONE6
Mar 2, 2011 | 6:05 am
#18
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Location: HKG
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A few data dumps:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Australia as the most expensive country got even more expensive.
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SAT 09 Apr 2011 | WED 20 Apr 2011 | RTW | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- QF SYD SYD 11699 AUD DONE4 QF SYD SYD 12999 AUD DONE5 QF SYD SYD 14599 AUD DONE6
Mar 2, 2011 | 12:39 pm
#20
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Mar 2, 2011 | 12:49 pm
#21
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Although, I find that starting in SA usually requires adding an extra continent (since I otherwise wouldn't be going to Africa) which raises the comparison price (but also can earn more miles/points).
Mar 3, 2011 | 1:09 am
#23
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I know what you mean, but 16 segments aren't really enough to spread around 5 continents for me, especially if you want to max out the 'A' classes flights. My main interests are in the US and Europe anyway, so I just skip Asia altogether.
Mar 3, 2011 | 6:49 am
#25
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FWIW, resurrection of this thread seems to be a false start as it does not appear that any prices have gone up (yet).
Mar 3, 2011 | 7:36 am
#26
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It is ominous that they have taken away the fare estimate section from the OW website. I notice yesterday there was still a link from the booking tool but the page it linked to resulted in a 404 error. That link has now been removed from the tool.
For those that are interested I notice that CAI, TLV, AMM & DOH all seem to be a good starting points for AONE fares. - At the moment...
Mar 3, 2011 | 12:20 pm
#27
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I could become a OW defector to *A after I burn through my current inventory of AA miles. Approximately USD$7,200 AI for RTW using FEZSQ is looking pretty good right now. Sure, a very restrictive fare, but it works for my travel.
Mar 3, 2011 | 1:06 pm
#28
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Yeah, I saw that fare too. I have to give it a closer look and see what the SQ Euro-US options are on SQ. SQ A380 suites are not permitted on the F fare TTBOMK.
Depending on where you are traveling FC CirPacs on either OW or *A are about the same price ex-HKG.
Nice that FEZSQ is ex-US; but even though I am from the US I am currently positioned for and doing repetitive ex-HKG CirPacs right now. Thinking about having that come to an end at the end of this year.
I guess I need to go over to the *A forum and check it out.
Depending on where you are traveling FC CirPacs on either OW or *A are about the same price ex-HKG.
Nice that FEZSQ is ex-US; but even though I am from the US I am currently positioned for and doing repetitive ex-HKG CirPacs right now. Thinking about having that come to an end at the end of this year.
I guess I need to go over to the *A forum and check it out.
Mar 3, 2011 | 3:31 pm
#29
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Yes, prices are somewhat expensive ex Oz
Qantas have the following illustrative nett fares (inclusive of 
) published on their website: (http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...er/au/en#jump3)
The actual base fares currently (from E/F) are:
For Comparison, from TLOTLWC:
Converting NZD to ~AUD gives:
Approx. base Savings by starting and finishing in NZ:
Currently a return booking from East Coast Oz to NZ for positioning can be purchased from around AUD300 return.
) published on their website: (http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...er/au/en#jump3)Code:
Continents 4 5 6 Economy $4,365 $4,967 $5,916 Busines $12,303 $13,565 $15,480 First $18,003 $19,464 $21,580
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Ex Australia (AUD) Continents 4 5 6 Economy $3,899 $4,499 $5,199 Business $11,699 $12,999 $14,599 First $17,399 $18,899 $20,699
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Ex New Zealand (NZD) Continents 4 5 6 Economy $3,899 $4,499 $5,199 Business $12,499 $13,999 $15,399 First $17,099 $19,699 $21,799
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Ex New Zealand (~AUD) Continents 4 5 6 Economy $2,970 $3,430 $3,970 Business $9,550 $10,670 $11,740 First $13,100 $15,100 $16,700
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Approx AUD saving: Continents 4 5 6 Economy $930 $1,070 $1,230 Business $2,150 $2,330 $2,860 First $4,300 $3,800 $4,000
Mar 3, 2011 | 3:46 pm
#30
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Approx. base Savings by starting and finishing in NZ:
Currently a return booking from East Coast Oz to NZ for positioning can be purchased from around AUD300 return.
Code:
Approx AUD saving: Continents 4 5 6 Economy $930 $1,070 $1,230 Business $2,150 $2,330 $2,860 First $4,300 $3,800 $4,000