How long will BA wait to reduce the fuel surcharge?
Dec 17, 2008 | 5:58 am
#202
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When I made a time change to a previous booking, where charges had gone UP since the original booking, the fare was recalculated and we had to pay the difference. So... would the reverse happen, if I changed the time of a domestic leg, connecting to a long haul flight? And seeing as we booked during the 50% miles sale, would original mileage still apply? Or am I asking to have my cake and eat it?!
Dec 17, 2008 | 6:18 am
#203
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Serious question though, which I've asked before, but not seen an answer to:
When I made a time change to a previous booking, where charges had gone UP since the original booking, the fare was recalculated and we had to pay the difference. So... would the reverse happen, if I changed the time of a domestic leg, connecting to a long haul flight? And seeing as we booked during the 50% miles sale, would original mileage still apply? Or am I asking to have my cake and eat it?!
When I made a time change to a previous booking, where charges had gone UP since the original booking, the fare was recalculated and we had to pay the difference. So... would the reverse happen, if I changed the time of a domestic leg, connecting to a long haul flight? And seeing as we booked during the 50% miles sale, would original mileage still apply? Or am I asking to have my cake and eat it?!
Dec 17, 2008 | 6:48 am
#204
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I'm not saying it should be passed on regardless, just as they did not passed on an increase unless you changed your booking. However, some parity when making a change would not go a miss. Seeing as I was looking into changing one booking, I was wondering if we would benefit form this.
Dec 17, 2008 | 7:37 am
#206
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And to answer my own question, a call to YouFirst to change the time on a domestic add-on would result in a reduction of 20 per person - surcharges for the domestic leg only, plus waived change fee as I cannot do it online. So no recalculation of the whole booking, and thus no extra mileage charges.
I haven't made the change yet so this is not set in stone!
Once again, YouFirst were excellent ^
I haven't made the change yet so this is not set in stone!
Once again, YouFirst were excellent ^
Dec 17, 2008 | 9:05 am
#207
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And to answer my own question, a call to YouFirst to change the time on a domestic add-on would result in a reduction of 20 per person - surcharges for the domestic leg only, plus waived change fee as I cannot do it online. So no recalculation of the whole booking, and thus no extra mileage charges.
I haven't made the change yet so this is not set in stone!
Once again, YouFirst were excellent ^
I haven't made the change yet so this is not set in stone!
Once again, YouFirst were excellent ^
Dec 17, 2008 | 10:13 am
#208
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This seems to me a matter for the OFT to investigate because this is clearly not a fuel surcharge fee in any way shape or form.
Dec 17, 2008 | 10:23 am
#209
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Maybe I need to ask the question again: Are airliners fuelled by crude oil, bought at spot prices?
What would really inform the debate is if someone who knows could post the effective prices that BA has been paying for its jet fuel, and then plot that against the level of fuel surcharge so that we can see whether the lag on the way up is shorter than the lag on the way down.
What would really inform the debate is if someone who knows could post the effective prices that BA has been paying for its jet fuel, and then plot that against the level of fuel surcharge so that we can see whether the lag on the way up is shorter than the lag on the way down.
Dec 17, 2008 | 10:43 am
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This Diagram and data should help http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/rjetara5d.htm (source US Government) based upon Amsterdam/Rotterdam prices (the upper end of world jet fuel pricing). I think it supports my point above.
Current jet fuel prices are less than 34% of their early July 2008 peak.
Current jet fuel prices are less than 34% of their early July 2008 peak.