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FlyingPrince22 May 11, 2008 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by JoeW (Post 9708260)
The independent airport lounge, known as the OSL lounge, used by CO, AF, KL, AY, SN, and BA charges about 400 NOK PER PASSENGER WHO VISIT. If Diners or PriorityPass would pay the same rate as the airlines currently does - there wouldn't be a problem. You probably realize that 400 NOK(or more in the afternoon - when the alcohol is served) per visit is not going to pay off for PriorityPass or Diners. And they are looking at, and will probably build another lounge with lower costs - if PP and Diners would like to pay what it costs to use a lounge in Norway.

I don't get why this is SAS' problem.

Still, that doesn't explain why the OSL Lounge doesn't offer entrance upon credit card payment. As to the case being a SAS problem, please read my previous messages where I explaned that unless the services in OSL are improved, it will will not be an attractive gateway airport for many. Who is likely to lose money? The answer is: SAS.

JoeW May 11, 2008 1:18 pm

A lounge with an entrance fee is not likely used by a huge percentage, probably max 0,05 % or even less for SAS' customers. I realize there should have been a domestic lounge, but a lounge with an entrance fee would be for very few "interested" passengers. Most travelers who would like to use a lounge travel enough to hold FT-cards or a business ticket. Travelers on LCCs may like a lounge, but who cares if they get it? The LCCs don't, and why should SAS? Such lounge, with an entrance fee, would be most interesting for LCC-travelers, e.g. DY.

I do not think SAS loose any money by flying to an airport without an "entrance-fee lounge"... I have actually never heard any question for such lounge.

FYI, I am employed by the SAS Group - and work at Oslo Airport.

FlyingPrince22 May 11, 2008 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by JoeW (Post 9708697)
I do not think SAS loose any money by flying to an airport without an "entrance-fee lounge"... I have actually never heard any question for such lounge. FYI, I am employed by the SAS Group - and work at Oslo Airport.

This just shows how OSL really isn't up to the present-day standards. My last experience of OSL? At the gate I asked whether they would have places available more in the front of the cabin, just for a simple OSL-CPH flight in Y. The rude lady answered me: "That's something you gotta talk with somebody else about, not with me". (She obviously thought erroneously that I was begging for an upgrade, which seems to be a sort of crime in Norway). This way of taking "care" of EBG customers told me already everything about the "standards" in OSL and this lounge thing only confirms my bad impressions - not to mention the extremely high prices.

There is something strange about the Norwegians. Everything what is obvious and even self-evident elsewhere, you have to explain, explain and explain to them - and most often without any results at all. ;)

SK989 May 12, 2008 2:26 am


Originally Posted by FlyingPrince22 (Post 9710737)
This just shows how OSL really isn't up to the present-day standards.

I think most passengers (maybe not you) rate an airport's "present-day standards" by a little more than if the airport in question has a lounge which you can enter by paying a cash fee or with a Priority Pass... The examples you give, such as TLL, isn't really up to present-day standards if you ask me, at least not until the re-fubrishment is done.

But I guess that the standard of TLL airport is the fault of SAS as well, since the major operator at TLL airport is Estonian Air, which is owned mostly by SAS... :rolleyes:

JoeW May 12, 2008 3:43 am

FlyingPrince22, sounds to me like the gate attendant you spoke to was a new, inexperienced boarding agent, and you would have to wait for the gate coordinator to change seats.

FlyingPrince22 May 12, 2008 4:55 am


Originally Posted by SK989 (Post 9710963)
But I guess that the standard of TLL airport is the fault of SAS as well, since the major operator at TLL airport is Estonian Air, which is owned mostly by SAS... :rolleyes:

I don't understand your irony at all. As a small regional airport TLL is just fine. As to the lounges, they have two - one *A and one "independent" - both available also upon credit card payment.

And I don't understand those (obviously) Norwegians who write here and are reluctant to accept any negative feedback or even costructive ideas regarding probably the most expensive airport in Europe, namely OSL.

Helsinki Flyer May 12, 2008 5:04 am


Originally Posted by FlyingPrince22 (Post 9711163)
And I don't understand those (obviously) Norwegians who write here and are reluctant to accept any negative feedback or even costructive ideas regarding probably the most expensive airport in Europe, namely OSL.

Itīs obvious that even airports in Norway are expensive as everything else is too. Thatīs why I donīt like going there, itīs not good value for money. But thatīs only my opinion and many disagree as people are still going to see the fjords.

SK989 May 12, 2008 5:56 am


Originally Posted by FlyingPrince22 (Post 9711163)
I don't understand your irony at all. As a small regional airport TLL is just fine. As to the lounges, they have two - one *A and one "independent" - both available also upon credit card payment.

And I don't understand those (obviously) Norwegians who write here and are reluctant to accept any negative feedback or even costructive ideas regarding probably the most expensive airport in Europe, namely OSL.

Oh, then we have SAS to thank for TLL airport then, using your logic? If SAS is to blame for OSL airport not being up to present day standards (which in your view seems to be measured mainly on the fact if the airport has a lounge which you could enter with cash or not), then SAS is to be thanked for TLL being a good airport, since SAS owns the majority stock in the airline which is the biggest operator there?

BTW - I'm not Norwegian.

FlyingPrince22 May 12, 2008 7:13 am


Originally Posted by SK989 (Post 9711290)
Oh, then we have SAS to thank for TLL airport then, using your logic? If SAS is to blame for OSL airport not being up to present day standards...

I already explained why and how it would be within the interests of SAS to improve the services at OSL. As to the lounges, they are below the level of TLL, which is only a small regional airport.

Someone83 May 12, 2008 7:50 am


Originally Posted by FlyingPrince22 (Post 9711509)
I already explained why and how it would be within the interests of SAS to improve the services at OSL. As to the lounges, they are below the level of TLL, which is only a small regional airport.

SAS already has 2 lounges at OSL, why should they provide more? After OSL isn't that big

JoeW May 12, 2008 8:21 am

Do you have any other services in mind than an upfront payment-lounge, that will be of SAS' interest?

Helsinki Flyer May 12, 2008 8:59 am


Originally Posted by JoeW (Post 9711820)
Do you have any other services in mind than an upfront payment-lounge, that will be of SAS' interest?

Forget the p-class concept. Itīs too Ryanair.

miikka May 12, 2008 8:59 am

I definitely see that OSL should have a lounge, which would accept PriorityPass (I am PriorityPass holder) but I don't see how it would help SAS at all. SAS already has enough lounges there. Okay, in case I would be going through OSL and I wouldn't have EBG (or traveling in Business class) and if I would have BA Gold then I would of course choose BA rather than SAS if the price is pretty similar in case there wouldn't be PriorityPass lounge.

But then ... if there would be a PriorityPass lounge in OSL then I might choose BA anyway, or AY. Even in case I have EBG so SAS would lose some business. :D

Anyway, I think having a PriorityPass/DC lounge is more a business to the airport and independent lounge operator than anything with SAS. I hardly can imagine a case where it would help anything for SAS. Having a PriorityPass is a nice thing because it makes me more willing to fly with someone else than SAS, if there isn't any other lounges than SAS lounges then I am more willing to fly with SAS because I have EBG.

tommy777 May 12, 2008 9:18 am


Originally Posted by mabff (Post 9706708)
A bit off the topic, but is it really true? Does not UA RCC membership gives access to SAS business lounges worldwide when flying SAS?

Not off topic at all! You are absolutely correct. With a RCC membership you gain access to SAS Business Lounges.

So FlyingPrince22, here's your solution. Just enroll your friend in the RCC (500 USD pr. year fee).

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,3113,00.html

As for the debate that has been going on for a few pages now: SAS has no influence on how things are run at OSL, OSL is owned and run by Avinor. There are two major carriers at OSL and many other carriers, it's not SAS's task to offer a lounge product pay-as-you-go for Economy Class passengers with no status. It's the same with ALL Star carriers in Europe. They don't sell lounge access, they sell a product that includes it. End of story. If you have a beef with anyone, it's Priority Club or your credit card company.

As for OSL having enough lounges, I disagree. SAS NO has a much larger market domestic than SK SE and SK DK. OSL is the only major airport in Scandinavia that doesn't offer their most frequent customers a domestic lounge. Not fair at all! SAS should most definitely offer a domestic lounge at OSL like they do at ARN and CPH. But that's a debate for another time

FlyingPrince22 May 12, 2008 9:22 am


Originally Posted by miikka (Post 9712011)
I definitely see that OSL should have a lounge, which would accept PriorityPass (I am PriorityPass holder) but I don't see how it would help SAS at all.

Anyway, I think having a PriorityPass/DC lounge is more a business to the airport and independent lounge operator than anything with SAS. I hardly can imagine a case where it would help anything for SAS. Having a PriorityPass is a nice thing because it makes me more willing to fly with someone else than SAS, if there isn't any other lounges than SAS lounges then I am more willing to fly with SAS because I have EBG.

Well, I have a EBG and Priority Pass as well. Still I think that having such a lounge would be within the interests of SAS. ;) The more services, the more attractive an airport is, the more people will want to travel via it! :) I simply can't understand how the OSL situation with "wholly three lounges" would be normal, when airports like TLL have 2 PP lounges and HEL even 8 lounges and out of them 3 PP lounges. :confused:

Advertising Fly-Business-With-Us-And-You-Will-Be-Able-To-Use-The Lounge sounds very familiar to me. It was the rule twenty years ago! :D


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