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SAS plans to leave Star Alliance and join SkyTeam

On the 3rd of October SAS announced further steps as part of their SAS FORWARD plan. SAS has raised nearly 12.9 billion SEK as part of their Chapter 11 restructuring process. This will mean current shareholders are wiped out and the company will be delisted.

The new owners include Air France-KLM, Castlelake, Lind Invest and the Danish state.

As such, SAS plans to leave Star Alliance and join Air France-KLM's Sky Team alliance by summer 2024.



FAQ:

What does this mean for EuroBonus?
  • Eurobonus members can still book travel on Star Alliance carriers until the end of the transition period.
  • Future affiliation with Air France-KLM's Flying Blue frequent flyer programme has not yet been decided.
  • In the meantime the agreement between SAS and the investing consortium includes a provision for preparations of merging EuroBonus into FlyingBlue once AF-KLM owns more than 50% of the outstanding shares. It thus seems very likely that EuroBonus will ultimately be merged into FlyingBlue, the timeline and details of this are, however, still unclear.

SAS EuroBonus FAQ:
On October 3rd 2023, SAS announced the intention to eventually join SkyTeam and leave Star Alliance. For now the EuroBonus program remains unchanged. SAS will keep you informed about what to expect over the coming months and will provide updates continuously on the EuroBonus website.

1. What will happen to EuroBonus?
  • No changes are being made to the program and EuroBonus will remain SAS's loyalty program. As a member, you will continue to earn and use points on SAS as today. Your status and benefits as a EuroBonus member when you fly with SAS will not be impacted. • Delivering an attractive loyalty program to SAS's loyal customers will remain the top priority for us and our new owners, even after SAS changes ownership and alliance. SAS intends to eventually leave Star Alliance and join SkyTeam, and adjustments to the program will be made accordingly. As long as SAS is a member of Star Alliance, EuroBonus members can continue to enjoy the same benefits as they do today when flying on a Star Alliance partner airline.

2. What will happen to my EuroBonus points?
  • No changes are made to your EuroBonus points. You will keep all points earned until now and will continue to earn and use points just like today.

3. What will happen to my EuroBonus tier status?
  • No changes are made to your EuroBonus tier status. You will retain your status and your progress made during your qualification period. Requirements to reach each tier level and benefits included in each tier remain the same.

4. What will happen to my EuroBonus Lifetime Gold status?
  • No changes are made to the EuroBonus Lifetime Gold program. EuroBonus Lifetime Gold memberships will be honored even after SAS joins SkyTeam, and all progress made towards Lifetime Gold will be kept.

5. Do I keep my status benefits when I travel on another Star Alliance partner airline?
  • While SAS remains part of Star Alliance, you will enjoy the same status benefits as you do today when you fly with a Star Alliance partner • When SAS eventually joins SkyTeam, you will also be able to enjoy similar status benefits across the extensive SkyTeam network.

6. Can I still earn points when I fly on another Star Alliance carrier?
  • While SAS remains part of Star Alliance, you will be able to earn EuroBonus Basic points when flying on a Star Alliance airline partner flights

7. What will happen to my existing Star Alliance award bookings?
  • Existing bookings remain unchanged and will be honored even if you fly after SAS eventually leaves Star Alliance

8. Can I still use my points to redeem on other Star Alliance carriers?
  • While SAS remains part of Star Alliance, we will allow you to use EuroBonus points to book Star Alliance award trips

9. Can I still earn points on credits cards and other non-airline partners?
  • Yes

10. Can I still use my EuroBonus points on non-airline partners such as rental cars or hotels?
  • Yes
11. What about other Star Alliance partner members flying on SAS?
  • While SAS remains part of Star Alliance, members of other Star Alliance member programs will keep their status benefits while flying on SAS, and will be able to spend their miles/points on SAS flights

Will there be opportunities to match with other programs to remain in *A?
  • Most likely yes, but it will have yet to be seen what opportunities will present itself.

Will AF - KLM take over control of SAS?
  • After a minimum of two years and pending regulatory permission, AF - KLM may increase its stake to grant it controlling power over SAS. However, the current situation indicates that there are agreements within the consortium, which would de facto give AF - KLM control with regards to certain aspects of SAS operations (as seen by the announcement to leave *A and join ST).

What is the ratio of the new ownership?
  • Castlelake: 32%
  • AF - KLM: 19.9%
  • Danish State: 25.8%
  • Lind Invest: 8.6%
  • Remaining equity to be distributed to existing creditors.

What happens to existing SAS shares?
  • This process makes current SAS shares lose their value. Some existing shareholders expressed displeasure about the decision and are questioning wether an American court can rule on making existing shares of SAS lose their value. It remains to be seen if legal action is taken.

Will SAS change their HUB strategy or move their HQ to Denmark?
  • This is as of yet unconfirmed but it seems likely that SAS might focus on CPH and move its HQ.

Will SAS join the SkyTeam transatlantic Joint Venture?
  • This is the stated goal of AF-KLM CEO, but will require regulatory approval.

How was this decided?
  • There was a bidding process and two bids were received. Private Equity company Apollo Global Invest had expressed interest in taking control of the airline.
  • The decision on the bids was taken roughly 30 minutes before the press conference on October 3rd as stated by Dilling.

What is the process now?
  • Nothing changes immediately. As of now SAS is still a member of Star Alliance and will continue to operate normally for the foreseeable future.
  • The announcements made today reflect the future plans, which are subject to approval by many different entities and regulatory bodies. These include the courts in the US to approve the Chapter 11 process, courts in Sweden which will have to approve the restructuring (and invalidation of shares), as well as the following, as taken out of the SAS press release: "(...) antitrust authorities, civil aviation authorities, the European Commission, and EFTA Surveillance Authority (as applicable), SAS leaving Star Alliance, the implementation of a Swedish Reorganization at the SAS AB level, and other customary conditions. There currently remains uncertainty in respect of satisfying such conditions and obtaining required approvals (...)".
  • We should hear more about if this is going through in the next couple of weeks.
  • SAS plans to exit Chapter 11 in Q2 2024 and leave Star Alliance and join SkyTeam before summer 2024.

Sources and links:

- SAS Press Release
- Communication E-Mail sent to EB members can be found in Post 114
- E24 (Information with regards to EuroBonus. Thanks to matin for the find in Post 64)
- Reuters
- AF-KLM Press Release
- SAS EuroBonus FAQ (Thanks again to matin for the find in Post 237)
- DInside on Merger of EuroBonus into FlyingBlue (Thanks to Frederik74 for the find in Post 473)
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 10:59 am
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Wow, this is a shocker. I don't know much about Sky Team so not sure how it will effect me. One negative would be transfering through CDF and AMS for flying to southern European cities. As bad as FRA and MUC may be those are worse.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:01 am
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I need to start looking at what Star Alliance program to join instead of SK. Sky Team and Sky Team carriers are a close to useless alliance being based in Japan. With my current location it will cut my SK flying to almost zero, maybe one or two Danish domestic flights a year.

But I guess Aegean is the way to go. But let's see who starts courting the SK members with status matches....
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer

But I guess Aegean is the way to go. But let's see who starts courting the SK members with status matches....
Aegean had a rule change earlier this year, you need to fly 4 A3 sectors each year to requalify with 12 000 miles - otherwise you need 70 000! If you can't fly A3, TK or TP is probably much easier or indeed, one of the Asia based programmes.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:07 am
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Pretty shocked. No more Lufthansa lounges and I hate AMS airport 😭😭 6/10 years into my lifetime Gold. And then there’s my SK points that I probably should spend before the merger.

my poor nerves 😳

Norway based so I guess I’ll just have to wait and see how they merge with KLM. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:12 am
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TP is up for sale too — something to consider for those who looking to go that way.

Originally Posted by DirektornSE
With five 2-4-1unused vouchers (and two bonus trips booked in 2024) and over 0,5M eurobonus points, and EuroBonus Gold this is a bit bad taste at the moment and I need to digest...
I'm glad I did a status match w Kenya Airways (My QR Platinum is now Asante Platinum) but as a Swede who have lived with SAS for 25 years this is a lot to digest.
I feel for a lot of Swedes who have SAS as part of the Swedish and Scandinavian identity. And even for those Swedes who vested themselves via LH’s program, this change in ownership/control seems to be a bit of a shocker and may weaken loyalty toward SAS from many a frequent flying Swede. But perhaps Sweden will again get used to the French ruling the lot (cf. Bernadotte).
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:14 am
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This is terrible news for me. As a UA million miler who travels to Scandinavia quite often, I hate the idea of the *A lounges disappearing from ARN and CPH and also losing the ability to get cheap intra-Europe SK tix with *G privileges.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:14 am
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I'm already Flying Blue Gold. I'm sure I need to do the math but many things are still unclear on what will happen to the mileage program.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:15 am
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😂😂😂

Originally Posted by GUWonder
TP is up for sale too — something to consider for those who looking to go that way.



I feel for a lot of Swedes who have SAS as part of the Swedish and Scandinavian identity. And even for those Swedes who vested themselves via LH’s program, this change in ownership/control seems to be a bit of a shocker and may weaken loyalty toward SAS from many a frequent flying Swede. But perhaps Sweden will again get used to the French ruling the lot (cf. Bernadotte).
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:16 am
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Looking on the bright side, at least SAS can be in alliance where they don't go on strike the most. Can't wait for the potential of being affected by French strikes
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:20 am
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It's definitely a huge shock for me. But as long as it doesn't happen before 31 December (and I assume it won't), I don't care all that much. That's when my status expires, and since I'm no longer in Scandinavia, I wouldn't renew it anyway.

Since I'm a LH Group hub captive, I'll stay with Star Alliance and this will therefore mean no status benefits on my numerous trips up-north, but also more freedom - no more paying extra for SAS over Norwegian on regional flights in Scandinavia. Through ticketing could become a major issue for me though.

I fancy KLM a lot, and I'd love to travel with them more often, but flying everywhere via AMS isn't an option when I'm based in VIE. I wish they'd invest in LO instead.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:24 am
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luckily I did the TK challenge in Q1 so I’m good for *G. Due to having SkyTeam status with FlyingBlue I’m probably going to discontinue my Eurobonus status because KL servers my home airport and SK doesn’t. Also getting rid of my Eurobonus points before this deal is going through.

Originally Posted by FlyingMoose
FlyingBlue offers lifetime status as well, depending on whether they transplant lifetime benefits, that's worth significantly more than *A Gold lifetime.
when did AF/KL switch to *A?
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:24 am
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If, and it's a big if, everything stays the same except SAS alliance membership then I feel I will leave SAS behind except for miles earning via credit cards. Flying Blue for status is doing it (and it fits my travel pattern).

Lufthansa's new status system opens up some opportunities though since I travel to Switzerland a bit. Let's see.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by Amexpat
Wow, this is a shocker. I don't know much about Sky Team so not sure how it will effect me. One negative would be transfering through CDF and AMS for flying to southern European cities. As bad as FRA and MUC may be those are worse.
Wrong. CDG terminal 2F (Schengen to Schengen) is a breeze to connect through and AF has the arguable best Schengen lounge out there.
(BLL flights arrive at terminal 2G witch is remote and can rightly be time consuming for some connections)

AMS has been hit and miss for a while due to staffing issues but it is more hit now. KL Schengen lounge is OK.
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I'm elite in *A, ST, OW
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Fredrik74
If, and it's a big if, everything stays the same except SAS alliance membership then I feel I will leave SAS behind except for miles earning via credit cards. Flying Blue for status is doing it (and it fits my travel pattern).

Lufthansa's new status system opens up some opportunities though since I travel to Switzerland a bit. Let's see.
Has there been an AF or KL miles earning credit card ever before in Sweden? It would be a strange move for SAS’s post-recapitalization shareholders to kill off the revenue and earnings stream gotten from Swedish bank cards when ever kronor counts in a high interest rate environment. It’s not like the Danish bank card environment can make up for what Sweden gives it, but SAS and its post-recapitalization shareholders have much bigger things to worry about than a Swedish bank card revenue stream.
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Old Oct 3, 2023, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingMoose
The press release states "As part of the transaction, SAS is intended to eventually join the SkyTeam Alliance (“SkyTeam”), of which Air France-KLM is a founding member, and exit the Star Alliance, subject to any relevant approvals and emergence from the chapter 11 process." - This would eventually imply a transition to FlyingBlue.
No it doesn't. It implies a change of alliance. There is no mention of FF program at all.
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