GUWonder

GOT-EWR doesn’t surprise me. Seems par for the SAS course.

Is there a ferry connecting Fredrikshavn with Gothenburg? Is that the back-up plan to get passengers between AAL and GOT?

For business and leisure travel too, seems like more Scandinavians may be willing to do a c. 8 hour flight and endure a six hour time zone change than deal with a 11+ hour flight and 9 hour time zone change. [And NYC lives larger in the heads of Scandinavians than the West Coast.]. And given SK’s economy class, consider the shorter flight time a gesture of mercy.

Nick Art

So just so I get this right, SK will have 40 weekly flights to NYC?! That's nearly six daily flights.

3 AAL
3 GOT
6 CPH-JFK
7 OSL
7 ARN
14 CPH-EWR

I'm booking flights to NYC next June and most of them are either empty or only have 2-3 seats reserved yet... I hope they know what they're doing...

GUWonder

With inflation hitting at least Sweden and Denmark like it is, I am curious on what demand will turn out to be like for the NYC area routes. NYC is not a cheap place to visit as a tourist, and it’s not gotten cheaper (at least going by the jumps in rental income we get for leasing out condos this year). And between real discretionary income and savings falling in Scandinavia and a decline in housing and equity wealth effect likely coming if not already underway, what’s SAS counting on? More adults skipping out on having/maintaining own household formation and instead living with parents or more roommates in order to splurge on travel? But what choice does SAS have when it’s got equipment and crew to use and doesn’t want to build up new outstations with increasingly expensive contract staff.

vanillabean

I'm surprised that AAL has a runway long enough for an overseas flight.

SAS Has 5 Routes To Newark With Aalborg & Gothenburg Launch

GUWonder

Even AAL’s domestic flights may go over seas. .

Would I be wrong to assume that most of AAL’s common carrier international flights also go over seas from at least time to time?

More seriously, has GOT and AAL ever been considered to be part of the same catchment area for travelers due to any sort of ferry (or maybe even helicopter) connectivity between Gothenburg (for GOT) and Fredrikshavn (for AAL)?

CPH-Flyer

It is a combination airforce base and civilian airport. Common runways.

jamesbrownontheroad

What is the minimum runway length required for a fully laden A321LR to take off from Scandinavia towards the east coast US?

GUWonder

And would it be less runway length required in the summer than in the winter?

CPH-Flyer

The other way around, though I doubt Aalborg will fall under hot airports many days a year....

GUWonder

…. and global warming will increase the need for longer runways. Given air density as a factor in lift, makes sense.

But given stronger headwinds in winter when going west from AAL/GOT, would they need to load a plane at AAL/GOT with more fuel in winter than in summer?

dkeng

Growing up in North Jutland I don't think I ever encountered anyone sediously considering taking the ferry to GOT to catch a flight, even when there was a fast ferry (1.5 hrs). These days only the slow ferries (3hrs 15min) remain.

The runway at AAL is 8700 ft. Google suggest that may impose some restrictions on take off weight for the A321LR.

CPH-Flyer

Since max passenger capacity is 220 on the LR vs 157 on the SK version, and AAL EWR being some 800 miles (~17%) below max range, they will probably never need a take off at max payload. Though the needs of the runway length on the Internet seems to vary from 7500 feet to 8900 feet depending on which article you read. But I am fairly certain that SK knows the performance of the plane and the length of the runway in AAL pretty well.

vanillabean

That's a good question considering the cargo containers of akvavit for export. God jul.

GUWonder

What’s the lounge situation like at AAL? I thought it was a contract lounge, even as its flight board screen on typical workdays are dominated by SK CPH flights.

CPH-Flyer

Then there is the question of where the non Schengen passengers are stowed in between passport control and boarding. Probably not in the area where the AAL lounge is.